Gearslide wrote:Just so people are clear, the SDCC Combaticons have Game based (except for Onslaught) decos, while the Takara Combaticons have Concept Art based decos. Blast Off does not actually have all of that Black in the game, but does in the Concept Art.
Onslaught's the Odd-ball of the bunch though. The SDCC version is that weird brown color so that when he's in Bruticus mode, it looks more game accurate...but the Takara version looks even more accurate even though the deco is focused on Onslaught's colors and not Bruticus'.
And how come Blast Off and Onslaught don't have that Metallic sheen that the other three do? Not that I'm complaining, since I order the Takara Onslaught to replace my SDCC version, and he'll still match the look.
Delta Magnus wrote:I really don't get all the bitching about "VORTEX ISN'T G1 ACCURATE!!!". G1 Vortex had a very dull colour scheme, the game colours are sooooooo much better. Something being G1 accurate doesn't make it better. After all, if we were going all G1 accurate, these guys would have zero articulation, stickers for detail, fragile rubber tires and flaky chrome.
I much prefer the fresh approach they've taken to the Combaticons.
Delta Magnus wrote:I really don't get all the bitching about "VORTEX ISN'T G1 ACCURATE!!!". G1 Vortex had a very dull colour scheme, the game colours are sooooooo much better. Something being G1 accurate doesn't make it better. After all, if we were going all G1 accurate, these guys would have zero articulation, stickers for detail, fragile rubber tires and flaky chrome.
I much prefer the fresh approach they've taken to the Combaticons.
Delta Magnus wrote:I really don't get all the bitching about "VORTEX ISN'T G1 ACCURATE!!!". G1 Vortex had a very dull colour scheme, the game colours are sooooooo much better. Something being G1 accurate doesn't make it better. After all, if we were going all G1 accurate, these guys would have zero articulation, stickers for detail, fragile rubber tires and flaky chrome.
I much prefer the fresh approach they've taken to the Combaticons.
kirbenvost wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:I really don't get all the bitching about "VORTEX ISN'T G1 ACCURATE!!!". G1 Vortex had a very dull colour scheme, the game colours are sooooooo much better. Something being G1 accurate doesn't make it better. After all, if we were going all G1 accurate, these guys would have zero articulation, stickers for detail, fragile rubber tires and flaky chrome.
I much prefer the fresh approach they've taken to the Combaticons.
It's more like "the other 4 are pretty G1-accurate, so why isn't Vortex?" The names, alt-modes, color-schemes, and even bot modes (to a point) are clear homages to their G1 selves, so it's just weird that they got 4 out of 5 figures generally right. And I don't even care that much (I own Energon Bruticus too), but Vortex here just has a straight-up ugly color scheme. Heck, if he had been painted blue and yellow it would've ended up looking better.
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:I really don't get all the bitching about "VORTEX ISN'T G1 ACCURATE!!!". G1 Vortex had a very dull colour scheme, the game colours are sooooooo much better. Something being G1 accurate doesn't make it better. After all, if we were going all G1 accurate, these guys would have zero articulation, stickers for detail, fragile rubber tires and flaky chrome.
I much prefer the fresh approach they've taken to the Combaticons.
THANK YOU!!!
This is one of the pet peeves I had even before rejoining the site. Because I personally grew into the whole "If you do not like it, do not buy it. And if you think know a way for the company to improve their product, contact them!" philosophy. Mostly because both acts will tell them that you are an adult collector/fan. But from what I have seen in 2012, self-entitlement trumps this. I mean you can have a well-versed fan who has been following the franchise since the Micro Change/Diaclone: Car Robots days be told he is wrong on anything because the "self-entitled" member has to be right... Because he has age-old praise be his banner. Or that the person who feels entitled to post some hate calls a "HasTak" toy a "polished turd" because it is more "mature" than just saying that he simply dislikes the piece and why.
Sorry... That was my two cents while agreeing with what you said and how you feel. And even then, I hope to meet the fans that Peter Cullen gave praise to in his forward for the (flaws, but still entertaining) "Transformers Vault" book.
But even then, according to Naoto Tsushima, who is both writer and artist of the latest Japanese Generation One reboot ("TRANSFORMERS ALL SPARK"), this version of Bruticus is G1 accurate. He has made it clear that the toy molds used for TOMY's Generations line are part of the modern day G1 series. Thus, even the color scheme used is G1 accurate. So I am guessing that if they want 1984-1989(H)/1985-1992(T), they might as well be demanding color accurate bricks and Diaclone/Micro Change reissues.
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:I really don't get all the bitching about "VORTEX ISN'T G1 ACCURATE!!!". G1 Vortex had a very dull colour scheme, the game colours are sooooooo much better. Something being G1 accurate doesn't make it better. After all, if we were going all G1 accurate, these guys would have zero articulation, stickers for detail, fragile rubber tires and flaky chrome.
I much prefer the fresh approach they've taken to the Combaticons.
It's more like "the other 4 are pretty G1-accurate, so why isn't Vortex?" The names, alt-modes, color-schemes, and even bot modes (to a point) are clear homages to their G1 selves, so it's just weird that they got 4 out of 5 figures generally right. And I don't even care that much (I own Energon Bruticus too), but Vortex here just has a straight-up ugly color scheme. Heck, if he had been painted blue and yellow it would've ended up looking better.
If you don't like TOMY's version of Vortex, then do not become a fan of ALL SPARK. It is a G1 reboot series that has their Generations line become part of this Generation 1 continuity. And while I do agree with the color being ugly, the series does trump it... To the point that if I was in Ikebukuro right now... I would have gotten Prime and Bruticus from that line at the local Toys"R"Us, just to recreate a scene from current chapter of ALL SPARK. (And I am somebody who has no intentions of buying Prime. )
Delta Magnus wrote:Ah, of course, I forgot that in Japan the G1 line is still technically alive...only much better than the days of conjoined legs and seats for heads.
Of course, the whole "accuracy" argument depends on what they are supposed to be accurate to, the original toyline, the cartoon, one of the various comics, the G1 manga that was exclusive to Japan (no, not Kiss Players), the newer comics, the Headmasters anime, the utterly brilliant Transformers: PD Type manga, etc...
Delta Magnus wrote:And then we get into the "Rumble is blue and Frenzy is red" argument...
Delta Magnus wrote:Ugh. Myself I actually really like Vortex's new colours. Whilst I do think that it was a bit odd to release 4 of the 5 in G1-ish colours and then completely change Vortex, I think that Vortex's new colours add something to the combined form.
Delta Magnus wrote:I am very glad they gave Blastoff the coppery-gold armour as opposed to the hideous brown of the original toy. Putting aside the fact he was a space shuttle (which was itself rather odd, why didn't they make him a fighter jet or a UAV?) and his colours were not very space shuttle-y, the shade of brown just looked hideous.
kirbenvost wrote:Actually, this intrigues me. Is it a new show? Comic? Web series? Toy pack-in?
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:But even then, according to Naoto Tsushima, who is both writer and artist of the latest Japanese Generation One reboot ("TRANSFORMERS ALL SPARK"), this version of Bruticus is G1 accurate.
Rated X wrote:KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:But even then, according to Naoto Tsushima, who is both writer and artist of the latest Japanese Generation One reboot ("TRANSFORMERS ALL SPARK"), this version of Bruticus is G1 accurate.
Maybe he is color blind.
Cartoon, toy, or 80's marvel comics, (you choose) Vortex is grey and dark blue. This FOC "reboot" id the color of puke and period blood.
Rated X wrote:KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:But even then, according to Naoto Tsushima, who is both writer and artist of the latest Japanese Generation One reboot ("TRANSFORMERS ALL SPARK"), this version of Bruticus is G1 accurate.
Maybe he is color blind.
Cartoon, toy, or 80's marvel comics, (you choose) Vortex is grey and dark blue. This FOC "reboot" id the color of puke and period blood.
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