That Bot wrote:Burn wrote:Mindmaster wrote:El Duque wrote:On Michael Bay:I think Michael Bay has his ideas about it and I'm going to go along with him. He seems to know what he's doing.
You have NO IDEA how much I laughed at that.
Because you know how to make a movie better than Bay?
Michael Bay knows how to make a movie, one that's also very profitable
That Bot wrote:I will say Michael Bay can make a movie when he makes something like Inception. Until then he makes a hefty profit in the film medium, but not a movie.
That Bot wrote:Okay technically yes, he makes movies. It's my right to make jokes at their expense because of how I perceive their quality. Happy?
That Bot wrote:I'm fully aware that my opinions are just my opinions, thanks. You don't need to be the guy from Duty Calls.
I wonder if Michael Bay is aware or cares that his movie is coming out on the 30th anniversary of the franchise, and if so, whether that's going to be noted within the movie.
Capt.Failure wrote:Not sure. Honestly I don't care if he cares. The last thing I want in a Transformers movie is a fan directing or producing it. I have never seen a movie adaptation made by a fan that was good.
That Bot wrote:I can live with the explosions and the ugly robots. I have to draw the line at the excess of body humor. I feel like that drags the movies down a LOT.Capt.Failure wrote:Not sure. Honestly I don't care if he cares. The last thing I want in a Transformers movie is a fan directing or producing it. I have never seen a movie adaptation made by a fan that was good.
It's not that I want it to be directed by a fan, but SOMEBODY with a little more respect for what Transformers are besides giant robots that turn into cars. I want to see characters, not just bodies. And I don't want another trashy movie to commemorate the 30th anniversary of this franchise.
That Bot wrote:You just described G1. Most shows since then have at least run on long enough to where they were forced to give the characters personality beyond basic archetypes. They weren't all deep like Beast Wars, I suffer no delusions to the contrary. And lack of consequential previous characterization is not an excuse to take away what little they had for a 2 hour movie. The idea that the Transformers live action movies are bad may be just an opinion, but it's a common opinion with a lot of evidence to support the claims. Does the fact that the franchise made a collective $2 billion excuse their poorness? No. Did I see all 3 movies in theaters (thereby contributing to that $2 billion) because I love me some giant robots and don't learn my lesson? Yes. Will I see Transformers 4? Most likely. Will I continue to maintain my grievances about the first three? Yes.
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
That Bot wrote:You just described G1. Most shows since then have at least run on long enough to where they were forced to give the characters personality beyond basic archetypes.
They weren't all deep like Beast Wars, I suffer no delusions to the contrary. And lack of consequential previous characterization is not an excuse to take away what little they had for a 2 hour movie.
The idea that the Transformers live action movies are bad may be just an opinion, but it's a common opinion with a lot of evidence to support the claims.
Does the fact that the franchise made a collective $2 billion excuse their poorness?
Did I see all 3 movies in theaters (thereby contributing to that $2 billion) because I love me some giant robots and don't learn my lesson? Yes. Will I see Transformers 4? Most likely. Will I continue to maintain my grievances about the first three? Yes.
Capt.Failure wrote:That Bot wrote:You just described G1. Most shows since then have at least run on long enough to where they were forced to give the characters personality beyond basic archetypes.
Look at me with a straight face and tell me that any Transformers series besides Beast Wars has character development.
IHide wrote:Am I the only one that thinks ALL Transformers, no matter the continuation or story line, is awesome? Every story line has its flaws, wether it be G1, Beast Wars or the live actions. No matter what story line, I enjoy it. Yeah, my personal preferences lean toward G1 and Beast Wars, but Michael Bay and the live actions brought an entire new generation into the fanbase and gave us some crazy good new toys. Does that make them better than the "oldies"? Do the plot holes from the live actions make them worse than the others? In my opinion, neither. They are what they are and should be enjoyed as such.
Capt.Failure wrote:IHide wrote:Am I the only one that thinks ALL Transformers, no matter the continuation or story line, is awesome? Every story line has its flaws, wether it be G1, Beast Wars or the live actions. No matter what story line, I enjoy it. Yeah, my personal preferences lean toward G1 and Beast Wars, but Michael Bay and the live actions brought an entire new generation into the fanbase and gave us some crazy good new toys. Does that make them better than the "oldies"? Do the plot holes from the live actions make them worse than the others? In my opinion, neither. They are what they are and should be enjoyed as such.
You're what's called a "reasonable fan," something that's a rare find in the Transformers fandom. The fandom needs more people like you, honestly.
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