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I think everyone's attacking these two guys for no good reason. They were hired with the promise of money, not the quality of childhood memories brought to life. (And believe me, for that kind of dough, you'd have done the same.)

I liked the script that was leaked, looks like they kept most of it.

People hated Bob Skir for Beast Machines, etc...yet people now sit around and say "Oh yeah, I remember that. Wasn't so bad. It wasn't Star Trek Voyager bad."

If you want a fandom favorite script, write one your damn self, and when it's turned down because it sucks (and they hired these guys because they're professionals....) I guess you'll just have to swallow it.

If you hate it that bad, just don't spend a dime on any of it. How difficult is that?

Autobot032 wrote:I think everyone's attacking these two guys for no good reason. They were hired with the promise of money, not the quality of childhood memories brought to life. (And believe me, for that kind of dough, you'd have done the same.)

I liked the script that was leaked, looks like they kept most of it.

People hated Bob Skir for Beast Machines, etc...yet people now sit around and say "Oh yeah, I remember that. Wasn't so bad. It wasn't Star Trek Voyager bad."

If you want a fandom favorite script, write one your damn self, and when it's turned down because it sucks (and they hired these guys because they're professionals....) I guess you'll just have to swallow it.

If you hate it that bad, just don't spend a dime on any of it. How difficult is that?

Ditto.

Autobot032 wrote:People hated Bob Skir for Beast Machines, etc...yet people now sit around and say "Oh yeah, I remember that. Wasn't so bad. It wasn't Star Trek Voyager bad."

I still think Beast Machines is absolute crap.

Neko wrote:Let's not turn this into a Bashing thread alright?

Might want to try that in big bold writing, maybe use some different colours too as the message clearly didn't get through.

Wow another movie thread totally destroyed by the bashers, what a suprise. I for one think the script from what I read was pretty darn good. Not LOTR good, but good. To me it invokes the spirit of the early G1 eps., but hey that's my opinion, and I'm sure someone will tear mr to shreads over it.

Neko wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I think everyone's attacking these two guys for no good reason. They were hired with the promise of money, not the quality of childhood memories brought to life. (And believe me, for that kind of dough, you'd have done the same.)

I liked the script that was leaked, looks like they kept most of it.

People hated Bob Skir for Beast Machines, etc...yet people now sit around and say "Oh yeah, I remember that. Wasn't so bad. It wasn't Star Trek Voyager bad."

If you want a fandom favorite script, write one your damn self, and when it's turned down because it sucks (and they hired these guys because they're professionals....) I guess you'll just have to swallow it.

If you hate it that bad, just don't spend a dime on any of it. How difficult is that?

Ditto.

QFT.

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So they have basically said they've been re-writting the script (i'm assuming the TF bits as everything else has been filmed) right up until the last possible minute, thus proving it was all still a work in progress, and people are condemning their work. And without even seeing the final product. Some of the people on this site truly make me ashamed to be a part of this fandom.

Even if you don't like what they churn out, at least they took the time to communicate as much as they could with the "fandom".


*Sigh*

I request to see your tickets stubs for White Chicks, Kangaroo Jack, Catwoman, Eragon, Bloodrayne, Alone in the Dark, and Little Man since I not allowed to judge whether or not to see a film by:
-Trailer
-Promo Art
-Photos
-Director
-Cast
-Script
-Designs
-Cast and Crew Interviews
-Respect for the Source Material (my personal favorite)

[/quote]

Hey I liked White Chicks and Alone in the Dark, to each his own I suppose. And all the stuff you mention I as well as many others happen to like. Remember, your opinion doesn't reflect the entire fandom, just a select few.

Don't turn this into a bashing/flaming/spam-fest thread.
If our gonna ignore the warning you'll be issued one yourself.

D-340 wrote:Wow another movie thread totally destroyed by the bashers, what a suprise. I for one think the script from what I read was pretty darn good. Not LOTR good, but good. To me it invokes the spirit of the early G1 eps., but hey that's my opinion, and I'm sure someone will tear mr to shreads over it.

Hey I liked White Chicks and Alone in the Dark, to each his own I suppose. And all the stuff you mention I as well as many others happen to like. Remember, your opinion doesn't reflect the entire fandom, just a select few.

...would you mind if I quoted you for a signature?

wtf people i cant beleive you

these guys arnt the ones who decided what the robots should look like. these guys arnt the ones that decided this movie needed to be geared twords average joe dumbass, in the american market.

these guys were just hired to write a basic script for that. in the end, they didnt get any final say, that was left to the studio, director, producer, hasbro, hasbros advertising, and gm.

these guys just did thier job. how many of you here have ever written a fan fic? did everybody just love it? anybody ever tell you it SHOULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN OUT LIKE THIS BECAUSE THIER IDEA WAS BETTER?

**** people i just cant beleive that a movie that hasnt come out yet, hasnt even been finished apperently, that hasnt been judged by critics yet, hasnt been seen by average joe dumbass, can possibly be ripping the fandom apart like this.

ripped YOUR childhood up?

BULLSHIT OUR childhood

i grew up on g1, that was my whole life as a kid. that hasnt been ruind one bit, i still got those toys on my shelf, and i still got those awsome dvd boxed sets that i can watch whenever i feel like cheesy 80s goodness, along with heman, gijoe and voltron.

you dont want to see the movie? fine who cares dont. nones forcing you to pay dime one. weather you want to admit it or not, this movie wasnt made for us. this movie was made for average joe dumbass, who probably cant tell optimus primes ion cannon from a gobots ass.

thats how things work, weather we like it or not. im not telling anybody to go watch a movie and judge it if they relay dont want to. but godamnit people, we as a fandom have seen new diffrent stuff from transformers every couple of years. some poeple hate it because its diffrent, or hate it because its just more of the same.

ehh, not as good as g1, or meh g1 was lame beastwars ruled, or damn armada was an awsome show didnt care much for energon either, but liked cybertron. it was full of cheesy 80s goodness.

its always something new, noy continuity, new concept, new wonky gimmick

some old fans like it, some hate it, new kids see it and love it, and we get new fans for a new generation, and the fandom keeps growing, as it stands now, we may not be as big as trekkies or starwars freeks, but we are way more diverse then theyll ever be.

i guess some might not like that though.

we as a fandom should be comming together in times like these, not blowing eachother apart, just because something is not made specificly for us.

especialy since we are so radicly diverse, we all remember it diffrently, and have our own perspective of what it should be.

hell the way i remember starscream from my childhood, was the way he was in the comics, which i never read growing up.

its all perspective and personal opinion.

please for the love of god, stop trying to give death threats for every little detail, and stop trying to nuke one another over diffrent beleifs.

nothing, not a movie, not a new toy line is worth destroying your fellow fan




...unless maybe its a solid pure silver starscream, with onyx, ruby, and amethist inlays to give him his color scheme.... hmmmm

Well..Ok then, I see many still have bad feelings about the movie bottled up but please everybody, just wait for the movie release, then let it all out but for now, let's enjoy for what it is, no matter how awful or different the Transformers look like. The writiers are decent human beings, and I still wish them the best in luck.

AbsumZer0 wrote:

D-340 wrote:Wow another movie thread totally destroyed by the bashers, what a suprise. I for one think the script from what I read was pretty darn good. Not LOTR good, but good. To me it invokes the spirit of the early G1 eps., but hey that's my opinion, and I'm sure someone will tear mr to shreads over it.

Hey I liked White Chicks and Alone in the Dark, to each his own I suppose. And all the stuff you mention I as well as many others happen to like. Remember, your opinion doesn't reflect the entire fandom, just a select few.

...would you mind if I quoted you for a signature?

Ok It's not gonna be bad is it?

I can't wait to see how this script turns out.

I wish them the best of luck with this and their next project[s].

Don't let the door hit ya where The Good Lord split ya!

Please hire Furman and the Beast Wars guys for TF2!

Leonardo wrote:I can't wait to see how this script turns out.

I wish them the best of luck with this and their next project[s].

Yes.

I think this movie has the potential to make these writers quite well known if it is successful.

Lets get them to hire bluebullet for tf2, I think he could do an awesome script

Some people ar just never satisfied, and thats the sad realization that most are coming to accept. Primes not all red with blue axles in alt mode, oh noooooo. In reality I have never seen a flat nose that was like that, but I've seen kenworths that are really close to how he is now. And for those that say this movie is raping your childhood, until I see movie megs sticking head first out of your a$$ then I'll believed you are getting raped, until then you just need to chill one movie does not ruin a lifetime of memories.

1bigray wrote:[...] one movie does not ruin a lifetime of memories.

Too true, old boy.

I don't care if Optimus turns into a dishwasher- the script sucked. The plot is terrible. Magic map glasses? Who came up with that one? The world is saved by football. FOOTBALL! The scene is in the trailer- it is confirmed. This will be laughably bad- and even worse- it will be bland. The action will be okay- but we won't give a damn about the robots, who are just set dressing, each getting a handful of lines. Most of the picture focusses on the "humor" of "a boy and his car." Don't forget: "A boy and his car."

SoooTrypticon wrote:I don't care if Optimus turns into a dishwasher- the script sucked. The plot is terrible. Magic map glasses? Who came up with that one? The world is saved by football. FOOTBALL! The scene is in the trailer- it is confirmed. This will be laughably bad- and even worse- it will be bland. The action will be okay- but we won't give a damn about the robots, who are just set dressing, each getting a handful of lines. Most of the picture focusses on the "humor" of "a boy and his car." Don't forget: "A boy and his car."

You have reminded me why I hated that draft. I'm still optimistic, however, that the final cut will be something of an improvement.

And the Crow was "A boy and his bird" and look at how well that movie stands the test of time.

Cheesy 80's programs = Cheezy 00's movies.

The world is saved by football. FOOTBALL! The scene is in the trailer- it is confirmed.

Um...I just re-watched the trailer and nowhere did I see anything to do with football. So I don't really see what you are getting at.

1bigray wrote:And the Crow was "A boy and his bird"

The same could be said for Boogie Nights.




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Can I use that as my sig?

HAHA.


Um Yeah

The crow also had poor dialogue. So I guess the two are pretty similar when you think about. I guarantee the audience lets out a collective groan when the first army grunt spits out some boring detail about his home life- and how he can't wait to get back- only to be sliced seconds later by the mecha-bug of doom.

Dark City was much better.

Football refers to the main character (the human) running away from megs in the crumbling building. He uses his mad football skills to run away from megatron, carrying the matrix- (sorry, the energon cube). Megs can't catch him he's so fast.

But maybe that's how every movie should end... Hell, if the Crow used more football moves- maybe the franchise could spit out a couple more direct to DVD sequels.

This doesn't need to be Citizen Kane, in fact it can't be given it's concept- but it can still be a smart piece of Sci-Fi with great characters and a memorable story.

This film has neither.

Wait, so does this mean they're not going to have anything to do with the possible sequals?

Kronos wrote:

1bigray wrote:And the Crow was "A boy and his bird"

The same could be said for Boogie Nights.




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Can I use that as my sig?

You can't quote yourself in your own sig!

Can you?

Football refers to the main character (the human) running away from megs in the crumbling building. He uses his mad football skills to run away from megatron, carrying the matrix- (sorry, the energon cube). Megs can't catch him he's so fast.

Yeah he can't possibly be running away from a 35 foot tall robot because he is scared of said robot. I think you may need to rewatch the trailer, I see the "footbal" part you refer to but all I saw was running no "mad football skills", also there is no robot shown so how are you positve that it is megs.(unless you are getting that part from the script)

But maybe that's how every movie should end... Hell, if the Crow used more football moves- maybe the franchise could spit out a couple more direct to DVD sequels.

Only one of the "sequels" deserved to have been direct to dvd, the other(Salvation) was good enough to go to theatres.

This doesn't need to be Citizen Kane, in fact it can't be given it's concept- but it can still be a smart piece of Sci-Fi with great characters and a memorable story.

None of the original cartoons or predecessors were "smart sci fi". G1 was a 30 minute long commercial. Beast wars and Beast Machines was a 30 minute display in cg. And the some of the newer series were like pokemon from cybertron with all of the mini con stuff.

In my opinion Transformers has never really been and "intelligent property" and most likely never will be, with the exception of some of the recent comics that flesh out the history some more. Some fans put transformers on way to high of a pedestal and when a new concept comes out that doesnt live up to "their hype" they can't help but completely shred it and bash for all its worth.