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Dark Zarak wrote:I believe it was a certain pink and white autobot that nobody likes who said, "No hope. No hope at all."

Leonardo wrote:

Dark Zarak wrote:I believe it was a certain pink and white autobot that nobody likes who said, "No hope. No hope at all."

Are you thinking of Blurr: "Without the Matrix, there is no hope. No hope, no hope, no hope at all"?

Xion wrote:I hope that some fans will punching Bay in his damn face in the premiere of Transformers.

Leonardo wrote:

Xion wrote:I hope that some fans will punching Bay in his damn face in the premiere of Transformers.

I wouldn't really condone violence. That's not the best way to get one's point across. Plus, it won't change the system.

Xion wrote:

Leonardo wrote:

Xion wrote:I hope that some fans will punching Bay in his damn face in the premiere of Transformers.

I wouldn't really condone violence. That's not the best way to get one's point across. Plus, it won't change the system.

True, true, I just make a bad joke after all, but it would be funny to see it on youtube.

The Avatar of Man wrote:

Dark Zarak wrote:

Head Shot wrote:

Dark Zarak wrote:

Sermon wrote:I am quite certain that this is one of those cases where we, the fans, can make a difference.

I'm quite certain you're wrong.

Do you know how much of a huge process it is just to render a single frame out of millions for the kind of CGI they're using?

It's waaayyy too late my friend. You need to accept the reality of this. It's wishful thinking. A pipe dream.

wouldn't having a faceplate on help cut down on work needed to be done with cgi? i mean thats one less INTRICATE part that needs to be animated. so all they'd really have to do is put the plate over the mouth, but again, the chances of it changing are literally 1 in several billion.

Nope. The rendering process is the rendering process. How many minutes of footage does he have with no faceplate? Let's say 5, which is a crime to cry about but maybe it's more. We'll say 5. That's 300 seconds. That's 9000 frames. How long for one single frame? 37 hours. How many super expensive machines going round the clock to make all the frames? Let's give them two weeks to do it. That's 10 frames each, less than a second. That's about 900 machines.

That's 30 frames in 6 weeks, which they don't really have, since the movie still isn't done entirely with the work schedule they're on now. That would mean less machines, but more time. Do they want to spend the money on more machines to render all that faceplate footage, or do they want to push back the release date? Don't count on them flipping a coin.

I'm going into CGI. It's a process and a half. "We the fans" is such a joke at this point I don't know if I want to laugh or cry. This makes a tidal wave look like a leaky faucet.

I think he means while they were animating Prime-- at the moment, to go back over weeks and months of labor, is not cost effective, but, initially, it would have made sense.

Head Shot wrote:

The Avatar of Man wrote:

Dark Zarak wrote:

Head Shot wrote:

Dark Zarak wrote:

Sermon wrote:I am quite certain that this is one of those cases where we, the fans, can make a difference.

I'm quite certain you're wrong.

Do you know how much of a huge process it is just to render a single frame out of millions for the kind of CGI they're using?

It's waaayyy too late my friend. You need to accept the reality of this. It's wishful thinking. A pipe dream.

wouldn't having a faceplate on help cut down on work needed to be done with cgi? i mean thats one less INTRICATE part that needs to be animated. so all they'd really have to do is put the plate over the mouth, but again, the chances of it changing are literally 1 in several billion.

Nope. The rendering process is the rendering process. How many minutes of footage does he have with no faceplate? Let's say 5, which is a crime to cry about but maybe it's more. We'll say 5. That's 300 seconds. That's 9000 frames. How long for one single frame? 37 hours. How many super expensive machines going round the clock to make all the frames? Let's give them two weeks to do it. That's 10 frames each, less than a second. That's about 900 machines.

That's 30 frames in 6 weeks, which they don't really have, since the movie still isn't done entirely with the work schedule they're on now. That would mean less machines, but more time. Do they want to spend the money on more machines to render all that faceplate footage, or do they want to push back the release date? Don't count on them flipping a coin.

I'm going into CGI. It's a process and a half. "We the fans" is such a joke at this point I don't know if I want to laugh or cry. This makes a tidal wave look like a leaky faucet.

I think he means while they were animating Prime-- at the moment, to go back over weeks and months of labor, is not cost effective, but, initially, it would have made sense.

correct, thats exactly what I meant.