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TheStarScreamer wrote:Okay, well first of all let's stop the mile-long quoting.

Now, the writers are a bunch of pansies. There are probably more talented and less bitchy writers that could replace them for less money. I say fire all the striking queefs and bring in some new blood.

What many like minded individuals like yourself should consider is that we are not just striking for ourselves. We are striking for new blood, too.

Writing, in the final analysis, is the last truly democratic entry point into this business. We can't all be born looking like Brad Pitt or Julia Roberts, and not everyone is fortunate enough to have the money to go to film school and learn how to use expensive equipment to learn how to direct. BUT ANYBODY CAN HAVE AN IDEA, and when they do, they should be protected from having it cannibalized by studios, which are essentially little banks. Instead of loan officers and tellers, they have executives. And they "loan" the talent money to make their content. All they currently ask in return is a 99.99 percent interest rate on al l future earnings of y our creation.

The WGA is not a secret club which limits members. If you have an idea and someone buys it, you're in. Period. This strike is as much for current members as it is for any aspiring writers. That's probably why we currently have the support of so many within our industry who have been laid off. They too have ideas for shows and movies, and they know that if they are lucky enough to get them made, they will want the very protection we're fighting for.

Mega Zarak wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:If people aren't going to the theaters because of poorly written scripts then why would they want to download the same crappy movies at home? that makes no sense to me. If they've already determined that it's not worth watching in the theaters then sitting in front of a screen which most peoples are still much smaller than their tv sets certainly isn't much more of an incentive to me not to mention most peoples crappy chairs in front of their pc's. You lose the scope of a lot of movies or tv shows watching them that way which is why I love my 50" HD 1080dpi big screen tv, it's made a world of difference to me in detail that I see not only in the picture size but clarity and detail and better sound too.
Samsung, the same people that made my 50" tv now have a 73" tv set I think for not much more than what I paid for this one and I really want to get it in a year or less but I think that is more than big enough for a long time to come if not forever lol.

People make excuses of illegally downloading movies because theaters suck, I say they are just cheap and lazy and think they have to "stick it to the man" some how.

If all the theaters suck what's their excuse to justify the piracy of music then?

Okay no one said anything about illegal downloads. I have never done that. When I said studios are starting to embrace the idea I assumed you knew I meant legal downloads.

And I suggest you read my posts above defending big business before you assume I am the type to stick it to that man. Quite the opposite.

BTW which model Samsung do you have? It sounds like we have the same one. I have mine hooked up to a media center PC, kinda helps to avoid the crappy PC chair thing huh?

I made no assumptions about you specifically, your name or anyone elses wasn't mentioned so please don't make assumptions about my replies as you were making the same accusations against Burn.
I made a reply to the subject matter not to your character.

I find it hard to believe that this is the REAL Bob Orci (the typos kinda give it away) but if you are, pleased to meet you.

Sonray wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:If people aren't going to the theaters because of poorly written scripts then why would they want to download the same crappy movies at home? that makes no sense to me. If they've already determined that it's not worth watching in the theaters then sitting in front of a screen which most peoples are still much smaller than their tv sets certainly isn't much more of an incentive to me not to mention most peoples crappy chairs in front of their pc's. You lose the scope of a lot of movies or tv shows watching them that way which is why I love my 50" HD 1080dpi big screen tv, it's made a world of difference to me in detail that I see not only in the picture size but clarity and detail and better sound too.
Samsung, the same people that made my 50" tv now have a 73" tv set I think for not much more than what I paid for this one and I really want to get it in a year or less but I think that is more than big enough for a long time to come if not forever lol.

People make excuses of illegally downloading movies because theaters suck, I say they are just cheap and lazy and think they have to "stick it to the man" some how.

If all the theaters suck what's their excuse to justify the piracy of music then?

Heres the reason: Going to the theater costs money, a small fortune if you live in the UK. downloading the film to your PC doesnt cost anything.

That's the excuse, not a reason to me. Are you saying they don't have the right to get paid to view the movie in their own theaters then ?
I'd have to ask what is your profession then and does that mean I get to use those services and then not pay for them?

***Galvatron*** wrote:

Sonray wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:If people aren't going to the theaters because of poorly written scripts then why would they want to download the same crappy movies at home? that makes no sense to me. If they've already determined that it's not worth watching in the theaters then sitting in front of a screen which most peoples are still much smaller than their tv sets certainly isn't much more of an incentive to me not to mention most peoples crappy chairs in front of their pc's. You lose the scope of a lot of movies or tv shows watching them that way which is why I love my 50" HD 1080dpi big screen tv, it's made a world of difference to me in detail that I see not only in the picture size but clarity and detail and better sound too.
Samsung, the same people that made my 50" tv now have a 73" tv set I think for not much more than what I paid for this one and I really want to get it in a year or less but I think that is more than big enough for a long time to come if not forever lol.

People make excuses of illegally downloading movies because theaters suck, I say they are just cheap and lazy and think they have to "stick it to the man" some how.

If all the theaters suck what's their excuse to justify the piracy of music then?

Heres the reason: Going to the theater costs money, a small fortune if you live in the UK. downloading the film to your PC doesnt cost anything.

That's the excuse, not a reason to me. Are you saying they don't have the right to get paid to view the movie in their own theaters then ?
I'd have to ask what is your profession then and does that mean I get to use those services and then not pay for them?

I thought you was questioning the reason why people download pirate copies instead of going to the cinema, and i was giving the answer.

And i dont have a profession anyway.

Sonray wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:

Sonray wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:If people aren't going to the theaters because of poorly written scripts then why would they want to download the same crappy movies at home? that makes no sense to me. If they've already determined that it's not worth watching in the theaters then sitting in front of a screen which most peoples are still much smaller than their tv sets certainly isn't much more of an incentive to me not to mention most peoples crappy chairs in front of their pc's. You lose the scope of a lot of movies or tv shows watching them that way which is why I love my 50" HD 1080dpi big screen tv, it's made a world of difference to me in detail that I see not only in the picture size but clarity and detail and better sound too.
Samsung, the same people that made my 50" tv now have a 73" tv set I think for not much more than what I paid for this one and I really want to get it in a year or less but I think that is more than big enough for a long time to come if not forever lol.

People make excuses of illegally downloading movies because theaters suck, I say they are just cheap and lazy and think they have to "stick it to the man" some how.

If all the theaters suck what's their excuse to justify the piracy of music then?

Heres the reason: Going to the theater costs money, a small fortune if you live in the UK. downloading the film to your PC doesnt cost anything.

That's the excuse, not a reason to me. Are you saying they don't have the right to get paid to view the movie in their own theaters then ?
I'd have to ask what is your profession then and does that mean I get to use those services and then not pay for them?

I thought you was questioning the reason why people download pirate copies instead of going to the cinema, and i was giving the answer.

And i dont have a profession anyway.

When you do let everyone know how it feels if someone steals your ideas,services or cold hard money out of a register, it's all pretty much the same but the tax man won't care every April 14th when he wants his share here in the usa nor will the landlords at the beginning of every month.

***Galvatron*** wrote:

Mega Zarak wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:If people aren't going to the theaters because of poorly written scripts then why would they want to download the same crappy movies at home? that makes no sense to me. If they've already determined that it's not worth watching in the theaters then sitting in front of a screen which most peoples are still much smaller than their tv sets certainly isn't much more of an incentive to me not to mention most peoples crappy chairs in front of their pc's. You lose the scope of a lot of movies or tv shows watching them that way which is why I love my 50" HD 1080dpi big screen tv, it's made a world of difference to me in detail that I see not only in the picture size but clarity and detail and better sound too.
Samsung, the same people that made my 50" tv now have a 73" tv set I think for not much more than what I paid for this one and I really want to get it in a year or less but I think that is more than big enough for a long time to come if not forever lol.

People make excuses of illegally downloading movies because theaters suck, I say they are just cheap and lazy and think they have to "stick it to the man" some how.

If all the theaters suck what's their excuse to justify the piracy of music then?

Okay no one said anything about illegal downloads. I have never done that. When I said studios are starting to embrace the idea I assumed you knew I meant legal downloads.

And I suggest you read my posts above defending big business before you assume I am the type to stick it to that man. Quite the opposite.

BTW which model Samsung do you have? It sounds like we have the same one. I have mine hooked up to a media center PC, kinda helps to avoid the crappy PC chair thing huh?

I made no assumptions about you specifically, your name or anyone elses wasn't mentioned so please don't make assumptions about my replies as you were making the same accusations against Burn.
I made a reply to the subject matter not to your character.

Maybe you misunderstand me. I don't think you or Burn were pointing me out. I have no issue with anyone here or their opinions. I never thought you were attacking my character. The only time I could be accused is the stick it portion above. I'll take the fire on that.
I'm not trying to start anything, I was just speaking my side. It's called a discussion, but in the future I'll be sure to be very clear so everyone is happy.

Mega Zarak wrote:in the future I'll be sure to be very clear so everyone is happy.

Good luck on trying to achieve THAT in the movie forum!

Mega Zarak wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:

Mega Zarak wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:If people aren't going to the theaters because of poorly written scripts then why would they want to download the same crappy movies at home? that makes no sense to me. If they've already determined that it's not worth watching in the theaters then sitting in front of a screen which most peoples are still much smaller than their tv sets certainly isn't much more of an incentive to me not to mention most peoples crappy chairs in front of their pc's. You lose the scope of a lot of movies or tv shows watching them that way which is why I love my 50" HD 1080dpi big screen tv, it's made a world of difference to me in detail that I see not only in the picture size but clarity and detail and better sound too.
Samsung, the same people that made my 50" tv now have a 73" tv set I think for not much more than what I paid for this one and I really want to get it in a year or less but I think that is more than big enough for a long time to come if not forever lol.

People make excuses of illegally downloading movies because theaters suck, I say they are just cheap and lazy and think they have to "stick it to the man" some how.

If all the theaters suck what's their excuse to justify the piracy of music then?

Okay no one said anything about illegal downloads. I have never done that. When I said studios are starting to embrace the idea I assumed you knew I meant legal downloads.

And I suggest you read my posts above defending big business before you assume I am the type to stick it to that man. Quite the opposite.

BTW which model Samsung do you have? It sounds like we have the same one. I have mine hooked up to a media center PC, kinda helps to avoid the crappy PC chair thing huh?

I made no assumptions about you specifically, your name or anyone elses wasn't mentioned so please don't make assumptions about my replies as you were making the same accusations against Burn.
I made a reply to the subject matter not to your character.

Maybe you misunderstand me. I don't think you or Burn were pointing me out. I have no issue with anyone here or their opinions. I never thought you were attacking my character. The only time I could be accused is the stick it portion above. I'll take the fire on that.
I'm not trying to start anything, I was just speaking my side. It's called a discussion, but in the future I'll be sure to be very clear so everyone is happy.

"And I suggest you read my posts above defending big business before you assume I am the type to stick it to that man. Quite the opposite."

When you do mention me specifically yes, that is what the big difference is here so no I did not misunderstand you but rather the reverse as I was speaking my side that had nothing to do with you specifically and only the topic matter at hand but lets try and move on now ok and get back to the subject ?

Burn wrote:

Mega Zarak wrote:in the future I'll be sure to be very clear so everyone is happy.

Good luck on trying to achieve THAT in the movie forum!

Yea apparently I excel in ticking people off. No biggie. Back on subject after reading the terms of the strike I agree they are getting shafted. BUT I still would like to see some new blood come in. I think thats what the Orci post mentioned as well. If that really is him no offense meant, I don't have a problem with the movie.

Everybody smile.