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El Duque wrote:A lot of news has come out of this year's SDCC, and most of it has been good. The Generations GDO figures are going to see a domestic release, the return of the Transformers Prime First Edition figures, Fall of Cybertron Voyager Grimlock just to name a few, but now we have a couple of disappointments to report. Our man on the scene Seibertron has been able to confirm that Hasbro has no current plans to release Voyager Breakdown or Gaia Unicron in the domestic Transformers Prime line. Does that mean they will never happen? Only time will tell, but for now we suggest importing the Takara versions of these characters.

You might as well list the Swerve and Silas redecos/remolds of the Breakdown figure, as well.

Unicron, not surprising. Stings, all things considered, but not surprising.

No domestic version of Unicron???

BOO!!!

Bad move Hasbro!

Makes me wonder how insanely over-priced the Takara version will be going for once it's available for purchase online due to the high demand it most likely will generate from the fandom.

Unicron not available, not surprising.

But still reaction equals:

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they killed Kenny those basserds

Why not give the axe to some useless bumblebee repaints and give us unicron instead, im sure he would sell better than 5 reapints will

Megatron Wolf wrote:Why not give the axe to some useless bumblebee repaints and give us unicron instead, im sure he would sell better than 5 reapints will

I think there's something going on.

1.) I think the economic troubles hit them harder than we've been led to believe.
2.) I think they're phoning it in this year and padding the crap out of redecos and remolds to milk the molds for all they're worth.
3.) I think they're waiting for 2014 to let us see what's really hidden up their sleeves.

See, if they cut corners now, stockpile money from easy sells such as what they're offering this year, plus wait for the inevitable sales from the new movie in '14, they could put all of that into a special anniversary line, for the 30th anniversary.

That's a guess, I don't know anything beyond guessing here, and I could end up being proved wrong. Still, that's my theory as to what's going on here.

Got my AM-12 Breakdown from UPS yesterday, and I have to say I have no regrets paying $60.00 for him. This is a really nice mould, and the colors are sweet. For whatever reason, every Takara figure I have gotten, is just noticeably higher quality compared to Hasbro.

I admit though that I would have preferred paint over stickers, but I did a nice job on my stickers, and put an acrylic clear coat on them to preserve them so they don't start peeling.

As far as Unicron, I already figured this was one Hasbro was not going to give us, and had mine preordered a month ago.

Just a suggestion too to those who want Nemesis Prime, I am sure this is another one Hasbro will blow off, so you might want to preorder your Takara one now.

not good. and not news i was hoping for. the takara versions will be expensive

Move over TF Prime...

Now maybe finally we can get some classics that are not FOC.

Now I know what to look for at next year's BotCon.

ARGH, the takara version SUX. Stickers, instead of paint apps. A god damn mini-con (Some one remind me, did breakdown ever use a mini-con in the series?)

Ah well. They did eventually release the First Editions, so maybe he'll come out eventually.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:ARGH, the takara version SUX. Stickers, instead of paint apps. A god damn mini-con (Some one remind me, did breakdown ever use a mini-con in the series?)

No, but the rest of the cast ever used Powerizer/MechTech weapons either.
And it's a hammer, which is nice, and he did use that in the series.

As for the stickers, they can be an annoyance I guess, but I don't mind them personally..

Va'al wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:ARGH, the takara version SUX. Stickers, instead of paint apps. A god damn mini-con (Some one remind me, did breakdown ever use a mini-con in the series?)

No, but the rest of the cast ever used Powerizer/MechTech weapons either.
And it's a hammer, which is nice, and he did use that in the series.

Except Megatron you mean (his works surprisingly well). Also, that is why Im waiting to get FE Bulkhead and Prime (although I did get "powerizer" prime because the sword kinda looked like primas star saber).

Va'al wrote:As for the stickers, they can be an annoyance I guess, but I don't mind them personally..

And in 5-6 years, you can only watch in saddness as they start to peal away. Peal away...

Dr. Heavy B wrote:Except Megatron you mean (his works surprisingly well). Also, that is why Im waiting to get FE Bulkhead and Prime (although I did get "powerizer" prime because the sword kinda looked like primas star saber).

It is a bit bulky, but yes, at least his makes sense and is vaguely accurate.
I'm glad they are re-releasing the FE figures, might wait and see if they show up in Europe too (even though I already have Bulkhead and OP, I'd like a Vehicon for army building excuses; an FE, a PRiD and a Jet Vehicon will suffice, if I can get them!).

And in 5-6 years, you can only watch in saddness as they start to peal away. Peal away...

I'm not that fussed with replacing them, if they do peel.
I'm sure Reprolabels will have a set ready soon enough, anyway!

Dr. Heavy B wrote:ARGH, the takara version SUX. Stickers, instead of paint apps. A god damn mini-con (Some one remind me, did breakdown ever use a mini-con in the series?)

Ah well. They did eventually release the First Editions, so maybe he'll come out eventually.

1.) Calm down, it's not the end of the world.
2.) Stickers instead of paint apps do suck, but stickers can be replaced, whereas paint usually cannot. (Unless you're skilled.)
3.) No, the Microns have never made an appearance in the show. (It's also a kick ass little figure and a lot of fun to put together. Try it before you knock it.)
4.) FE has always been on their slate of "We'll try." Aaron Archer basically said Breakdown's a no go, period. (So, I wouldn't hold my breath on him coming out like the FEs will. Besides, his Powerizer gimmick would blow.)

Was anyone else expecting another deluxe-class combiner mold like Bruticus (besides Ruination)? I had kinda convinced myself we were going to get Devastator.

It Is Him wrote:Was anyone else expecting another deluxe-class combiner mold like Bruticus (besides Ruination)? I had kinda convinced myself we were going to get Devastator.

I thought they might have brought one out, yeah. Was thinking an Autobot one to fight Bruticus. Maybe later? To be fair, they've clearly not got the hang of making a good combiner yet anyway, so maybe best that they've not tried to do too many yet.

WTF, for every thing Hasbro does right, they do another thing horribly, horribly wrong. Breakdown is too good a figure to not release.

Autobot032 wrote:[quote="Dr. Heavy B"
4.) FE has always been on their slate of "We'll try." Aaron Archer basically said Breakdown's a no go, period. (So, I wouldn't hold my breath on him coming out like the FEs will. Besides, his Powerizer gimmick would blow.)

I think that's it honestly. There's not really a place for a Powerizer gimmick like the others. If they retooled it in the arms it would kill the look/cost too much.

Kinda lame that we're getting a buncha crappy repaints and missing out on actual new moulds. That bludgeon mould, hot spot,
ATLEAST the Unicron figure, since it did have its roots on the American side of things. And with this iteration, you could actually have multiple Unicrons in your collection all serving as material incarnation of a non-phsyical being.

craggy wrote:To be fair, they've clearly not got the hang of making a good combiner yet anyway, so maybe best that they've not tried to do too many yet.

Just because you don't like it don't mean it's not a good set of molds.

It Is Him wrote:Was anyone else expecting another deluxe-class combiner mold like Bruticus (besides Ruination)? I had kinda convinced myself we were going to get Devastator.

I believe Hasbro is using Bruticus to test the market on combiners. If it does well then we will probably see Devastator.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Was anyone else expecting another deluxe-class combiner mold like Bruticus (besides Ruination)? I had kinda convinced myself we were going to get Devastator.

I believe Hasbro is using Bruticus to test the market on combiners. If it does well then we will probably see Devastator.

Well it certainly did well at SDCC...though I wonder how the derpy retail deco will do...

orangeitis wrote:

craggy wrote:To be fair, they've clearly not got the hang of making a good combiner yet anyway, so maybe best that they've not tried to do too many yet.

Just because you don't like it don't mean it's not a good set of molds.

just because you're technically correct doesn't mean I don't think you're just arguing for the sake of it.

HOWEVER, in the name of clarity, allow me to retract my previous post and replace it with this:

In my opinion, FOC Bruticus looks like a pretty p!$$ poor combiner compared to what I believe Hasbro should be capable of.

I hope it does well for them, so that they decide to make more gestalts, and I hope that their designers have learned a few things whilst making it, so that any future combiners end up much better.

craggy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

craggy wrote:To be fair, they've clearly not got the hang of making a good combiner yet anyway, so maybe best that they've not tried to do too many yet.

Just because you don't like it don't mean it's not a good set of molds.

just because you're technically correct doesn't mean I don't think you're just arguing for the sake of it.

I never argue "for the sake of it". I care about truth, and if I think someone's wrong, I'm gonna speak up. If they're not wrong, I'll correct my facts and use them with hopefully better reasoning next time.

RAcast wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Was anyone else expecting another deluxe-class combiner mold like Bruticus (besides Ruination)? I had kinda convinced myself we were going to get Devastator.

I believe Hasbro is using Bruticus to test the market on combiners. If it does well then we will probably see Devastator.

Well it certainly did well at SDCC...though I wonder how the derpy retail deco will do...

Who knows? Kids might eat them up.