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[Ultra Markus]

And someone could come in here and screw it up, you know?

you mean besides yourself

[Evil_the_Nub]

what i took out of this is prime is going to continue to be a shelf warmer, bay is a greedy little kid, everything to do with these movies is made as they go with no planing at all about the future, & the franchise is still screwed.

As for who to have the problem with, the general public doesn't realize what he's doing to the franchise, hell they think it's all based off a cartoon from the 80's. I would absolutely blame him for the mocking, not the people who go see it, because frankly they don't know better, which is sad.

Mr. Bay, I apologize, you're not an idiot ... You're a giant douche.

What exactly is he doing that's a problem? Making Transformers more popular than it's ever been? In what twisted universe is that a bad thing?

Apparently you havent realized yet that 9 times out of 10 going mainstream either kills or slowly kills franchises & genres. More people on board isnt always a good thing. Before the movies was there ever a time where people complained about overpricing, low quality, not being able to find something or having to deal with scalpers every time something comes out? No and why is that, because it wasnt mainstream and only fans and people who stumbled upon it knew about it. It wasnt until the movies that the franchise was thrown into disarray & hasbros greed was flamed to new heights. The franchise as a whole was way better off before bay got his grubby little hands on it and the mainstream morons were mad aware of our beloved franchise. Now if Transformes were to go through cycles like Star Wars & the various comic book properties do then it would be golden but forcing it to stay mainstream is slowly killing it. Like ive been saying Transformers needs a break and needs to take a year or two off and then be started up again from scratch. Thats the only way this franchise is going to be put back on track, either that or fire every one whos involved with it right now. Either way something needs to be done anew.

You're right. Batman, Spider-Man, X-men, Superman, TMNT, and Resident Evil all faded away into obscurity after they had movies released. Those franchises are dead and gone.

The only problems with the franchise now are due to the global economic situation and Hasbro's mind boggling incompetence. You can't find a Vehicon? Then ask Hasbro why they put an awesome figure that also happens to be an army builder 1 per case. The deluxe figures are getting smaller and more expensive? So is everything else.

I know what you're going to say next, so I'll go ahead respond to that. "Bay made Bumblebee popular and we're stuck with unnecessary Bumblebee figures everywhere." True, Bumblebee became popular because of the movies. However it's Hasbro's fault again for overestimating his popularity. 1 Bumblebee per series is fine, we don't need 2 or 3 different molds and several repaint every year.

[OptiMagnus]

Paramount: So Peter, we're going to do a Transformers 4 and we still need Optimus Prime.

Peter Cullen: Sorry guys, but I don't think I'm going to do another movie. I've already done three.

Paramount: How about $10,000,000.00?

Cullen: Alright let's do it.

[T-Macksimus]

Well, what I get out of this is that there are a lot of a**holes in the fan community that think they know what's going on and think they are any less of a douchebag than Bay is and are totally f'ing wrong.
Seriously, some of you guys are complete dicks, you read way more into one clip than anyone has any right or ability to be able to do and you should be ashamed of yourselves because people like you are the reason that the rest of society thinks that TF fans are bigger pricks than Trek and Star Wars fans COMBINED! The sad part is, they're right.

[MINDVVIPE]

Well, what I get out of this is that there are a lot of a**holes in the fan community that think they know what's going on and think they are any less of a douchebag than Bay is and are totally f'ing wrong.
Seriously, some of you guys are complete dicks, you read way more into one clip than anyone has any right or ability to be able to do and you should be ashamed of yourselves because people like you are the reason that the rest of society thinks that TF fans are bigger pricks than Trek and Star Wars fans COMBINED! The sad part is, they're right.

Yet, you're the first person to attack the fans (and fellow posters) rather than just state your own view on the subject at hand.... Now who's the prick?

Take your hurt feeling elsewhere.

[Evil_the_Nub]

Well, what I get out of this is that there are a lot of a**holes in the fan community that think they know what's going on and think they are any less of a douchebag than Bay is and are totally f'ing wrong.
Seriously, some of you guys are complete dicks, you read way more into one clip than anyone has any right or ability to be able to do and you should be ashamed of yourselves because people like you are the reason that the rest of society thinks that TF fans are bigger pricks than Trek and Star Wars fans COMBINED! The sad part is, they're right.

Yet, you're the first person to attack the fans (and fellow posters) rather than just state your own view on the subject at hand.... Now who's the prick?

Take your hurt feeling elsewhere.

He's got a point though. Some people in this fandom get their panties in a wad over the most trivial stuff and start running off at the keyboard without any thought or reason behind it.

Seriously, death threats because Optimus has flames says it all.

[MINDVVIPE]

Well, what I get out of this is that there are a lot of a**holes in the fan community that think they know what's going on and think they are any less of a douchebag than Bay is and are totally f'ing wrong.
Seriously, some of you guys are complete dicks, you read way more into one clip than anyone has any right or ability to be able to do and you should be ashamed of yourselves because people like you are the reason that the rest of society thinks that TF fans are bigger pricks than Trek and Star Wars fans COMBINED! The sad part is, they're right.

Yet, you're the first person to attack the fans (and fellow posters) rather than just state your own view on the subject at hand.... Now who's the prick?

Take your hurt feeling elsewhere.

He's got a point though. Some people in this fandom get their panties in a wad over the most trivial stuff and start running off at the keyboard without any thought or reason behind it.

Seriously, death threats because Optimus has flames says it all.

Who gives a ****, its not like anyone is going to even leave their basement to find a weapon and track down michael bay. Retaliating to an angry poster is beyond pointless. It just seems like a power trip and nothing else. (Don't bother pointing it out, my reply is different; A hope to slow the derailment of the thread)

As someone mentioned, they need a Transformers CGI movie that spawned from the story writers from HIGH MOON, and maybe the author of the books, as I've heard good things about them.

[reluctantyouth]

Bay will make a lot of dough regardless. Being compared to the likes of Jackson and Cameron in the interview is a complete joke...could you boost the guys ego anymore than it already has been? When it comes to all fandoms there are pricks in every set...bashing each other solves nothing. I have as much respect for the Trekers and Star Wars fans as the TF fans. If Bay wants to do this movie right...then the inevitable has to happen...kill Bumblebee in the opening sequence! Bring in Hot Shot or add some beasts to the bunch and bring in Cheetor. We need a young new hothead in the group with a lot to learn that is not just comic relief. Optimus needs to age a bit...not falling apart like Jetfire but enough to show he has battle scars. Bring in the rest of the seekers and have a new leader emerge among them. Give the Autobots some damn air support...I want to see Sky Linx. There are so many things that can be done. As far as the leader goes...well I'd hate to see Galvatron...but Bay doesn't have much of an imagination.

Also would love to see the following:

Dinobots
Insecticons
Headmasters
Trypticon or Metroplex or Omega Supreme

[MINDVVIPE]

:michaelbay: Bay will make a lot of dough regardless. Being compared to the likes of Jackson and Cameron in the interview is a complete joke...could you boost the guys ego anymore than it already has been? When it comes to all fandoms there are pricks in every set...bashing each other solves nothing. I have as much respect for the Trekers and Star Wars fans as the TF fans. If Bay wants to do this movie right...then the inevitable has to happen...kill Bumblebee in the opening sequence! Bring in Hot Shot or add some beasts to the bunch and bring in Cheetor. We need a young new hothead in the group with a lot to learn that is not just comic relief. Optimus needs to age a bit...not falling apart like Jetfire but enough to show he has battle scars. Bring in the rest of the seekers and have a new leader emerge among them. Give the Autobots some damn air support...I want to see Sky Linx. There are so many things that can be done. As far as the leader goes...well I'd hate to see Galvatron...but Bay doesn't have much of an imagination.


I'd like to see Galvatron, but only if he is done right.
Also would love to see the following:

Dinobots
Insecticons
Headmasters
Trypticon or Metroplex or Omega Supreme

[MINDVVIPE]

:michaelbay: Bay will make a lot of dough regardless. Being compared to the likes of Jackson and Cameron in the interview is a complete joke...could you boost the guys ego anymore than it already has been? When it comes to all fandoms there are pricks in every set...bashing each other solves nothing. I have as much respect for the Trekers and Star Wars fans as the TF fans. If Bay wants to do this movie right...then the inevitable has to happen...kill Bumblebee in the opening sequence! Bring in Hot Shot or add some beasts to the bunch and bring in Cheetor. We need a young new hothead in the group with a lot to learn that is not just comic relief. Optimus needs to age a bit...not falling apart like Jetfire but enough to show he has battle scars. Bring in the rest of the seekers and have a new leader emerge among them. Give the Autobots some damn air support...I want to see Sky Linx. There are so many things that can be done. As far as the leader goes...well I'd hate to see Galvatron...but Bay doesn't have much of an imagination.


Also would love to see the following:

Dinobots
Insecticons
Headmasters
Trypticon or Metroplex or Omega Supreme

I'd like to see Galvatron, but only if he is done right.