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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby KingEmperor » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:25 am

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Loved him as Megatron. He was my favorite character in Bayformers. That being said, I can understand him not wanting to come back. Megs is dead, anyway. They should introduce a new villain.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby budmaloney » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:28 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Personally, I don't want them to bring back Megatron for TF4. They've already killed him once, revived him once, and then killed him again. Reviving him again would be too much like the Unicron Trilogy Syndrome minus the Galvatron upgrade.

There are other villains they could use for this movie that they haven't used already. Thunderwing, Bludgeon, a non-Megs Galvatron, Overlord, Deathsaurus, Straxus, Jhiaxus, even the DJD could pull it off.

I wouldn't want Bay to touch the DJD. Thats something WAY too cool to get infected by his half-assed treatment. Actually all of it is... but the DJD, thats a sinister pack of blood thirsty EVIL cons... Bay would probably end up having humans kill them with slingshots.


I agree, please oh please, leave the DJD alone. Don't give Bay any more ideas. DJD is perhaps one of the coolest collection of characters we saw. The design etc. You know who should be a villain, Wheelie yes Wheelie. I'm willing to even accept Megan Fox as a horrible resurrected villain. But no DJD.

But I don't mind Megatron coming back. He's already been humiliated over and over again. Why not the third time. Bludgeon would be awesome to see.

They can't have Unicron, would be too hard to animate, and he will have a short screen time.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Burn » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:47 am

Ravage XK wrote:He bought nothing interesting to the role, he was generic baddy number 1. Thats it. Megatron had nothing interesting about him. Welker puts so much into his voice for Megatron, anger, pain etc though he dialed it back for the Prime series.

Get Frank back to make Megatron interesting again.


Don't you think that would be more the fault of the writers than the guy reading what he was given to read?

Yes, tone ... inflection ... all come into play, but the greatest of voice actor would have a hard time making a character seem interesting if the writers are terrible two-bit hacks who can't construct dialogue to bring a character to life.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Ravage XK » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:02 am

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Ravage XK wrote:He bought nothing interesting to the role, he was generic baddy number 1. Thats it. Megatron had nothing interesting about him. Welker puts so much into his voice for Megatron, anger, pain etc though he dialed it back for the Prime series.

Get Frank back to make Megatron interesting again.


Don't you think that would be more the fault of the writers than the guy reading what he was given to read?

Yes, tone ... inflection ... all come into play, but the greatest of voice actor would have a hard time making a character seem interesting if the writers are terrible two-bit hacks who can't construct dialogue to bring a character to life.


Yes, that's a good point. The writing was terrible. I feel that had they used Welker with these words he would have at least been able to dress them up in a more memorable performance, he does after all know Megatron pretty well. Hugo said that he just went in and read for a couple of hours, there was no interest in the character etc. I don't know if he did that before or after the animation was done but Welker would have ( I'm pretty sure ) changed or suggested changes to fit in with the Megatron he built. His suggestions could be rejected of course if the powers wanted something different.

I just feel that Megatron was more like a baddy of the week with nothing that created any presence. Agreed, that it wasn't just Hugo's fault but after what he said in the interview he has gone down in my estimation.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Burn » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:18 am

See, I just don't get why so many people are putting so much stock into what Welker COULD have done.

I will NEVER dispute the talent of the guy (he's second to Mel Blanc imo) BUT ... everyone goes on about how Peter Cullen IS Optimus Prime, yet a lot of people are critical of movie Prime.

Did Cullen step up and make Movie Prime more G1 Prime, did he do for Movie Prime what he did for G1 Prime? Or did he just read the lines he was given, exactly like what Weaving did.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Ravage XK » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:30 am

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Hmm, I never thought I would hear Optimus Prime say "My bad" but then I hadn't heard anyone say that until about 10 years ago and I think it sounds dumb. He did seem to be basically the same character and Id like to think that he has so much invested in Prime, given who Peter says the inspiration for the character is, that he would have pointed un Prime like things out and had an influence.

People believe that Frank and Peter know what these characters mean to the fans and would hope that they wouldn't tread all over them simply to make a bit of money. They seem to appreciate the impact their work had on people.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Burn » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:31 am

Ravage XK wrote:People believe that Frank and Peter know what these characters mean to the fans and would hope that they wouldn't tread all over them simply to make a bit of money. They seem to appreciate the impact their work had on people.


I don't doubt that they understand the impact they've had on people over the years, and I think they've been very humble and appreciative of it.

But I really do think people are giving them more credit in the direction of the characters they're voicing.

As far as i'm concerned, I don't think Cullen has had much input into Movie or TF:Prime Optimus. If he did, he would have stood up and said "Hey come on, this guy is just way too preachy and whiny!" Image
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Bleak5170 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:02 am

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Can't believe how many people are complaining about Megatron's lack of screen time. Across the trilogy he had far more screen time and dialogue than any other Decepticon. It's natural that the villains are going to be featured less than the heroes, (every movie is like this - compare Darth Vader's screen time in SW to every good guy), and Megs was in the spotlight a hell of a lot more than several of the Autobots, (Ratchet, Sideswipe, Jazz etc...).

And to say he was only whining or getting his ass kicked? He kicked the crap out of Optimus TWICE!
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Lord Onixprime » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:53 am

Ravage XK wrote:Hmm, I never thought I would hear Optimus Prime say "My bad" but then I hadn't heard anyone say that until about 10 years ago and I think it sounds dumb. He did seem to be basically the same character and Id like to think that he has so much invested in Prime, given who Peter says the inspiration for the character is, that he would have pointed un Prime like things out and had an influence.

People believe that Frank and Peter know what these characters mean to the fans and would hope that they wouldn't tread all over them simply to make a bit of money. They seem to appreciate the impact their work had on people.



As talented and passionate as you give Peter and Welker credit for, I think you are over estimating any of the voice talents ability to affect these movies. The things we've heard about Bay, I doubt he'd let the most talented of voice actors do anything but read the lines that he has given them.

Look at movie Prime. He has gone down as the most uncharacteristic Prime ins the franchise. I can guarantee you that Peters role in the creation of this Prime was no more involved than Hugo's. It's not about the voice actors and their appreciation of their roles, it is about Bay and his appreciation for this franchise, and while these movies were fine summer action flicks, they were really lousy Transformers stories.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby TheEggmaster » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:30 am

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Don't blame him at all, I mean he died in every movie but the second, he really only didn't to anything until the end of them all, and he had almost no dialogue. And he's supposed to be a decepticon leader. And only meeting with bay via Skype? Hugo doesn't care about the role, and neither does Bay, he just wants to blow up Megs like everything else. :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby noctorro » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:44 am

I've got nothing more to add. We'll just have to wait and see what tf4 turns out to be.
Good thing we have FOC & Prime in the meantime.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

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While I suppose it's disappointing to hear that Hugo doesn't particularly care for his turn as Megatron, he did just provide a voice. It's not like he was a live part of the films in the way that any of the human cast was. Could it be possible that he doesn't hold the role in great esteem because he spoke into a microphone a couple of times as opposed to having been in front of the camera?
He's been in a number of films by now that have relied on effects or makeup of what have you to help create his character (the Red Skull, V, Elrond)but had he ever done any voice work prior to these movies? Even then, and I see this has already been brought up, the lack of Megatron dialogue, but I essentially had four or five good lines over the span of three movies (just my opinion). Maybe he didn't find things like saying "Megatron!" up to his personal standard of his work.
Anyway, we've gotten some similar stories from other members of the cast, and it could be entirely possible that they just don't see the films with the same glasses as fans of the movies do. Yeah, I agree that people should be proud to some degree at least of everything they attach their names to, but it's possible that Weaving just doesn't think that voicing Megatron ranks super high on his list.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby MINDVVIPE » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:06 pm

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Dagon wrote:While I suppose it's disappointing to hear that Hugo doesn't particularly care for his turn as Megatron, he did just provide a voice. It's not like he was a live part of the films in the way that any of the human cast was. Could it be possible that he doesn't hold the role in great esteem because he spoke into a microphone a couple of times as opposed to having been in front of the camera?
He's been in a number of films by now that have relied on effects or makeup of what have you to help create his character (the Red Skull, V, Elrond)but had he ever done any voice work prior to these movies? Even then, and I see this has already been brought up, the lack of Megatron dialogue, but I essentially had four or five good lines over the span of three movies (just my opinion). Maybe he didn't find things like saying "Megatron!" up to his personal standard of his work.
Anyway, we've gotten some similar stories from other members of the cast, and it could be entirely possible that they just don't see the films with the same glasses as fans of the movies do. Yeah, I agree that people should be proud to some degree at least of everything they attach their names to, but it's possible that Weaving just doesn't think that voicing Megatron ranks super high on his list.

I agree. Sure there was a lack of a buncha crap on bay and the writers' part, but they are just voice actors, who might not even care about the subject matter (especially when presented with such a lack of soul in the character, story, and whatever else they might have had to read before conducting their work). Just kind of a random tangent, but the next time (if) you watch american dad, and principal louis is speaking, look at your bulkkhead figure. Hearing bulkhead speak such adult dialogue is hilarious :grin:
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

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Well, Movie Megs sucked a lot, and he doesn't get enough screen time like Animated Megs.

Still, I hope Michael Butt chooses Welker, because he does deserve a G1/Prime like Megs.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Micronautsdeep » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:13 pm

Lord Onixprime wrote:Eh, don't care. I liked Hugo's Megatron, but I don't care if he is not coming back. Honestly, if he was (meaning Megatron was returning) I'd be disappointed. Despite the lackluster final fight in DotM, bringing him back from death again would just make me roll my eyes. Megatron needs to stay dead. Maybe bring in Galvatron as a completely new character.


Agreed...keep Megs dead...Bring in Galvatron or some other ultimate badass bad guy. Find an actor that cares too. Hugo was ok, but I mean...whatever. :CON:
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

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Lord Onixprime wrote:Eh, don't care. I liked Hugo's Megatron, but I don't care if he is not coming back. Honestly, if he was (meaning Megatron was returning) I'd be disappointed. Despite the lackluster final fight in DotM, bringing him back from death again would just make me roll my eyes. Megatron needs to stay dead. Maybe bring in Galvatron as a completely new character.


Agreed...keep Megs dead...Bring in Galvatron or some other ultimate badass bad guy. Find an actor that cares too. Hugo was ok, but I mean...whatever. :CON:


Galvatron and Megatron are the same dude.

And we already have someone somethings named Galvatron(s) in the Movie Franchise.


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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:53 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:Galvatron and Megatron are the same dude.

And we already have someone somethings named Galvatron(s) in the Movie Franchise.
They could still make a "Galvatron (TF4)" who is a non-Megs Galvatron like BWII Galvatron and IDW Galvatron. ;)
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby User897 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:34 pm

Of course he doesn't shive a git about what he did as Megatron. What actor in their right mind would? Bayverse Megatron is a Megaflop. The weakest supposed "leader" of any incarnation. It doesn't even deserve to be called Transformers.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby User897 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:30 pm

Umm, as always, Peter Cullen was/is Optimus Prime. Your point? I was talking about the crappy Bay version of Megatron and how all the Bay movie scripts were below Mr. Weaving.
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User897 wrote:Umm, as always, Peter Cullen was/is Optimus Prime. Your point? I was talking about the crappy Bay version of Megatron and how all the Bay movie scripts were below Mr. Weaving.
Didn't you ask what actor would care about their role in the Bay movies?
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There sure is. Hugo weaving is one of my favorite actors, but I can totally understand that sitting in a booth for 2 hours wouldn't rank among his greatest roles. But of course there are people that have to twist every little thing into irrational Bay hatred.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

Postby Micronautsdeep » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:57 pm

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Lord Onixprime wrote:Eh, don't care. I liked Hugo's Megatron, but I don't care if he is not coming back. Honestly, if he was (meaning Megatron was returning) I'd be disappointed. Despite the lackluster final fight in DotM, bringing him back from death again would just make me roll my eyes. Megatron needs to stay dead. Maybe bring in Galvatron as a completely new character.


Agreed...keep Megs dead...Bring in Galvatron or some other ultimate badass bad guy. Find an actor that cares too. Hugo was ok, but I mean...whatever. :CON:


Galvatron and Megatron are the same dude.

And we already have someone somethings named Galvatron(s) in the Movie Franchise.


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Sort of...Megatron re-created by Unicron. We all know the story, just saying. If they bring back Megs, re-create him as Galvatron or come up with someone we haven't seen yet.
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Re: Hugo Weaving Discusses His Role As Megatron In The Movies. May Not Be Returning.

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TulioDude wrote:WARNING:Large amount of blind rage detected in this topic.

There sure is. Hugo weaving is one of my favorite actors, but I can totally understand that sitting in a booth for 2 hours wouldn't rank among his greatest roles. But of course there are people that have to twist every little thing into irrational Bay hatred.

Hugo doesn't want to play red skull again, and as far as I was concerned, that was a pretty boring character in the movie, so theres definitely enough grounds to believe that crappy writing could cause an actor or voice actor to lose any bond with the character, and vice versa with good writing potentially inspiring an actor or voice actor to create a sense of achievemant and connection with that role. But ya, its all pretty much speculation. There just so happens to be a readily possible reason with the crappy writing, so its no surprise people would begin to slander the movies. Hardly irrational when your guess is as good as mine.
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