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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:19 am

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Newtilator wrote:How 'bout animated Ratchet, or a similar, reimagined character eh?



Again I'm not trying to be rude but why in hells name would they bring "animated Ratchet" into the movie universe when they already have a Ratchet in the story????

What would be the sense of including a 2nd Ratchet into the same story????

As for a "similar, re-imagined character"?????Any number of characters could be re-written as an older one, Prowl,Wheeljack
ext....but would the fans except it???


Oops, my bad. No need to be angry mind. But since when has Bay cared about what the fans think?


I'm not angry and you have a point about Bay.
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby Sky Glory of Iacon » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:52 am

After The Rock, Armageddon, and Pearl Harbor, Bay is tight with the Pentagon and thinks nothing of picking up the phone to get them to reroute a C130 gunship with Seals in it for a few hours. "We pay for the fuel," he says. "The military looks at this as a recruiting effort. The jargon is real. I told them what was happening, and that's what they said. I shot it like a documentary."



Ya know deep down in my gut i get the weird feeling that there is something more happening here with Bay. I mean the milltary are busy fighting wars. They don't have time to go off and film a movie at a moment's notice and if they want to be in a movie so bad they should pay for thier own fuel!

Also we are spending a ton of money on fuel I kinda would like to see the books. IS there goverment kickbacks for this? Is this where my tax money goes to make a movie that glamorises war and wasting resorces?

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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby Sky Glory of Iacon » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:59 am

After The Rock, Armageddon, and Pearl Harbor, Bay is tight with the Pentagon and thinks nothing of picking up the phone to get them to reroute a C130 gunship with Seals in it for a few hours. "We pay for the fuel," he says. "The military looks at this as a recruiting effort. The jargon is real. I told them what was happening, and that's what they said. I shot it like a documentary."



Ya know deep down in my gut I get the weird feeling that there is something more happening here. I mean the milltary should be busy defending our country. They shouldn't have time to go off and film a movie at a moment's notice and if they want to be in a movie so bad they should pay for thier own fuel or have stock footage of thier own to use and give to filmakers.

Also Bay is spending a ton of money on fuel I kinda would like to see the books. Is there goverment kickbacks for this? As a tax payer I want this stuff made public if the milltary is involved.

I also would love to have Micheal Bay spend sometime in an actual war. I also get the feeling he never joined the millitary and has no real life and just second hand knowlege of war.
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby Thyunda » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:22 pm

Since he claims to base the movies off of G1 (just for the vehicular modes, or so he says) I'm going to say either Kup or Alpha Trion. In fact, I think definitely Kup. Maybe Ironhide's old commanding officer or something, maybe came to answer Prime's message. And since when as he tried to appeal to the younger viewers? *cough Bumblebee cough*
Honestly here, I think he'd definitely take a Generation 1 character. To be honest, Cybertron was terrible at any rate.
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby Sky Glory of Iacon » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:22 pm

Skowl wrote:Funny how everyone is assuming the "geriatric robot" is an Autobot... nothing says it isn't a Decepticon - though the chances are slim, it's still a possibility.


I have yet to see decepitcons turn old. It seems like the moment they start to age or be old they shoot'em and keep'em in the basment for the pension money.
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:36 pm

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Thyunda wrote:Since he claims to base the movies off of G1 (just for the vehicular modes, or so he says) I'm going to say either Kup or Alpha Trion. In fact, I think definitely Kup. Maybe Ironhide's old commanding officer or something, maybe came to answer Prime's message. And since when as he tried to appeal to the younger viewers? *cough Bumblebee cough*
Honestly here, I think he'd definitely take a Generation 1 character. To be honest, Cybertron was terrible at any rate.


When did Bay say the be base the movies characters off of G1 for the vehicular modes????

And if he did how were Baracade,Blackout and Megatron based on their G1 counterparts vehicular modes????

G1's Baracade and Blackout had completely different alt modes and G1 Megatron was not even a vehicle.

I agree that he'll ether go with a G1 character.He might even take one that was not considered old in the original G1 and tweek his character a bit.

He might even gio with a comic only character or he might make up a new one.
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby Thyunda » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:03 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Thyunda wrote:Since he claims to base the movies off of G1 (just for the vehicular modes, or so he says) I'm going to say either Kup or Alpha Trion. In fact, I think definitely Kup. Maybe Ironhide's old commanding officer or something, maybe came to answer Prime's message. And since when as he tried to appeal to the younger viewers? *cough Bumblebee cough*
Honestly here, I think he'd definitely take a Generation 1 character. To be honest, Cybertron was terrible at any rate.


When did Bay say the be base the movies characters off of G1 for the vehicular modes????

And if he did how were Baracade,Blackout and Megatron based on their G1 counterparts vehicular modes????

G1's Baracade and Blackout had completely different alt modes and G1 Megatron was not even a vehicle.

I agree that he'll ether go with a G1 character.He might even take one that was not considered old in the original G1 and tweek his character a bit.

He might even gio with a comic only character or he might make up a new one.


Bonus sections on the extra features with the DVD. He showed things from the original movie, then started talking about basing it off G1, because "Cars and trucks are much cooler than animals" or something like that.
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:40 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Thyunda wrote:Since he claims to base the movies off of G1 (just for the vehicular modes, or so he says) I'm going to say either Kup or Alpha Trion. In fact, I think definitely Kup. Maybe Ironhide's old commanding officer or something, maybe came to answer Prime's message. And since when as he tried to appeal to the younger viewers? *cough Bumblebee cough*
Honestly here, I think he'd definitely take a Generation 1 character. To be honest, Cybertron was terrible at any rate.


When did Bay say the be base the movies characters off of G1 for the vehicular modes????

And if he did how were Baracade,Blackout and Megatron based on their G1 counterparts vehicular modes????

G1's Baracade and Blackout had completely different alt modes and G1 Megatron was not even a vehicle.

I agree that he'll ether go with a G1 character.He might even take one that was not considered old in the original G1 and tweek his character a bit.

He might even gio with a comic only character or he might make up a new one.


Bonus sections on the extra features with the DVD. He showed things from the original movie, then started talking about basing it off G1, because "Cars and trucks are much cooler than animals" or something like that.


I guess his definitional of "G1 based" is hugely different from my definitional of the term.

Simply having "Cars and trucks" isint really being G1 based.The Majority of TF lines and dominated by vehicle formers.
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby Thyunda » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:30 am

This is just what he said. Maybe he said it because cars and trucks explode better than animals. All of his characters were in G1, weren't they? Still G1 characters, but different alternate modes. Don't you know about the death threats because he made Prime a different sort of truck than he should be?
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby Skowl » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:42 am

Thyunda wrote: All of his characters were in G1, weren't they? Still G1 characters, but different alternate modes.


Except Blackout and Barricade.

Yes, their names were used in G1 (as micromasters), but they obviously aren't the same characters - they just used whatever names Hasbro still had the trademark on.
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby Thyunda » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:19 am

Skowl wrote:
Thyunda wrote: All of his characters were in G1, weren't they? Still G1 characters, but different alternate modes.


Except Blackout and Barricade.

Yes, their names were used in G1 (as micromasters), but they obviously aren't the same characters - they just used whatever names Hasbro still had the trademark on.


That's what I meant. Still G1 names. I kinda forgot what to say.
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Re: Michael Bay Talks More Transformers 2, Including a

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:45 pm

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Thyunda wrote:This is just what he said. Maybe he said it because cars and trucks explode better than animals. All of his characters were in G1, weren't they? Still G1 characters, but different alternate modes. Don't you know about the death threats because he made Prime a different sort of truck than he should be?


But my pint is that most TF toylines use more cars and trucks instead of animals.So him saying he based his film on G1 is a lose term.

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Thyunda wrote: All of his characters were in G1, weren't they? Still G1 characters, but different alternate modes.


Except Blackout and Barricade.

Yes, their names were used in G1 (as micromasters), but they obviously aren't the same characters - they just used whatever names Hasbro still had the trademark on.


Now I would disagree with you.

Other the Optimus Prime none of the characters in Bays film seemed like their G1 counterparts.

Not a single one.I'm not saying they werent likeable but non of the characterizations resembled the characters of G1.

And I believe that they chose the names Blackout and Barricade knowing that they were G1 names that most fans wouldnt get right away....sort of like an "easter egg".
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