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Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Raymond T. » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:32 pm

One of the most respected writers of the Transformers lore, Simon Furman, was recently interviewed by MTV. This may not come as a big surprise to most fans, but Furman confirmed in the article that the new Michael Bay movie, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, will NOT feature any of the Dinobots. The British writer goes on and explain why he believes that this should not be seen as a bad thing.

"The movie-verse feels quite different to me, with its own audience and far more rooted in the real world, and Dinobots wouldn't necessarily be a great fit. Sure, if they could come up with an appropriate rationale and integral reason for them being in there, fine, but it’d need to be good, otherwise it would all start to verge on the kitsch".
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Thanos » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:44 pm

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Furman hasn't written a decent Transformers story in years. His explanations on why Dinobots do or don't need to be included in the films fall flat with me.
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:49 pm

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Well, this is another piece of 'Obvious' for the movie.
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Me, Grimlock! » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:37 pm

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They mean to say that Hollywood's best-paid writers can't figure out a way to put Dinobots in the movie?
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Acid Rain » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:40 pm

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It does seem somewhat of a stretch to fit the dinobots in.
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby omega666 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:07 pm

If they can't find a reason to put the Dinobots in then don't put them in. Venom was just thrown in Spiderman 3 and look at what happend. Dancing Peter Parker.
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Sideshow Sideswipe » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:24 pm

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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Raymond T. » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:51 pm

Thanos wrote:Furman hasn't written a decent Transformers story in years.
That's because IDW only lets him write what they want him to write. :-(
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby CRHavoc » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:23 pm

Me, Grimlock! wrote:They mean to say that Hollywood's best-paid writers can't figure out a way to put Dinobots in the movie?


Or they don't want it to look like a Power Ranger movie
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby MYoung23 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:49 pm

Giant scorpion? check.

Giant cyclops cat? check.

Evil robot disguised as hot chick? check.

Robot dinosaurs? Hell naw, no one would every buy that! :SMUG:
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby CRHavoc » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:12 pm

I'm not saying I wouldn't like Dinobots. Although it would be funny to pick something like that out a far fetched movie.

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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Rodimus2006 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:26 pm

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Dude look i am not even a writer nor do I try to be one. But I am pretty creative and could easily find a way to incoporate the Dinobots for when or if they will be a Transformers 3 made.


Look Sam is a College student right, they are at the Smithsonian Mueseum, you have the little new robot Wheelie right. Have Wheelie due Holographic Scans secretly of Models of Dinosaurs such as Hound did in Generation 1.

Have them be constructed on a secret US Military Facility or possible at the Hoover Dam where Sector-7 use to be at.


Look they dont necessarily have to be reqular Dinosuars Hell Grimlock good be some Huge Earth Mover Contructicon Vehicle. But Since the Constructicons are already in the movie it would clash alittle so I guess they would have to be Dinousaurs.


Looks they are a gizzillion ways to make the Dinobots fit into the movie and it not going to matter rather or not you have 100 Foot Dino-Robos when we have a Hot Chick turning out to be a Decipticon Pretender.

HMM, which one is the wierder Giant DINOS or a Transforming Girl turning out to be a Decipticon you be the judge of that one.

Cough, Cough can anyone say SARI Rip-Off from Transformers Animated Season 3.

This is just an excuse for them for not wanting to put the Dinobots into the movie.

Overall I am really excited for Transformers 2 just sad too see Generation 1 favs such as the Dinobots get the shaft since they are the most popular of all the transformers just about it and are still very popular today and are in Transformers Animated.


So once again LAZINESS on their part.
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby MYoung23 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:01 pm

If you want to know a plausible way to work the Dinobots into a movie read Spotlight: Shockwave.

In short, the Dinobots track Shockwave to Earth in its prehistoric past. They take on dinosaur forms and attack Shockwave. Shockwave beats them down and before they go into stasis lock Grimlock has the Dinobots ship fire from orbit. A big explosion happens and they all get buried under tons of rock.

Fast forward a couple of hundred million years, an excavation uncovers Shockwave and Dinobots who had been entombed in rock and still in stasis lock all that time.

That is as plausible as a robot boogeyman buried under a pyramid.
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Stormrider » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:33 am

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So in the last movie Bumblebee can alter his alt form while balancing on two wheels. Frenzy's head can turn into a cell phone in seconds. The Transformers can turn into anything they want, but they can't turn into robotic dinosaurs? I don't understand.

Why can't there be robotic dinosaurs on Cybertron that land on Earth? The writers already adulterated the mythology by allowing the robots to turn into anything at will. There are scorpions and robotic cats, why is it a stretch to have other forms?
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby Lastjustice » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:49 am

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Eh can save it for next film. Im ok with them not appearing, but I agree that theres easily several directions to gone. Including the classic one of them just being unearthed in their robot dinosaur modes.

Ill see what else is going be brought in on the autobots side as it is, they might more than enough help without dragging in the dinobots. Plus since devastor is going be so massive this time around, even most dinosaurs be small by comparsion. Even Sludge, if was true to size of a saurapod(he be like 50-40 feet tall in robot mode) would be only one close to right size fight what was shown fighting prime. Grimlock would be around height of Ironhide in robot mode. Snarl probably be around size of bumble bee, as would swoop. Slag might be about 18-20 feet. This based off the idea they were same size roughly as what they mimicked which been the trend so far.

They'd be fine for fighting all normal troops the cons had in the first movie.(especially if given their own combiner form with sludge as the body since hes the largest. Call it Tyrant or something heh)

We re pretty in the dark for the autobots besides the twins sideswipe and sunstreaker, and Jetfire joining the crowd. If they get some heavy hitters like Omega supreme, Broadside (as an aircraft carrier) superion (which Silverbolt as a concorde wuld be massive heh) then they might be ok letting the dinobots slide this round.

Im confident there be atleast 3 films so no reason to count them out just yet. Of course they could lie to us and grimlock and the gang actually appear in the film haha. I had this funny feelign about that earlier today thinking what if they broguht the dinobots in to fight devastator as they seem to be rivals. Its such an unlikely thing, but who would expect it either. Never know.
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby caitlindevi » Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:36 am

40 odd bots in the film and not one of them is grimlock?

I beleive we may have disinformation at work here....

I mean if *insert huge spoiler here* in this film which was pretty much expected to happen, and they managed to get Soundwave in they certain could just drop Grimlock into the action as a big tank or larger truck than prime.

I'd say we still have a lot of surprises to come with this film...don't rule anything out yet
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Re: Furman: "No Dinobots in Revenge of the Fallen"

Postby lowman_x » Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:09 pm

I really have to disagree with the comment that Furman hasn't written anything decent in years. I know I'm not the only one who thinks the "-ation" series is one of the best things to happen to the TFs in AGES (just a shame about the whole AHM debacle)!

I do think that they could work them in (ala Spotlight: Shockwave) but then, wouldn't we then all just turn around and say "They're not trying hard enough" or "they could have come up with something original!!!11!"?

The truth of the matter is that the TF fans are one of the most rabid/loyal/hardcore of the fan groups out there and it's hard to please us all. I think they've done pretty well and we should see how it goes with 40-odd TFs in this new movie. You just never know, they may surprise us come movie no. 3.
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