BotCon 2012 Metalhawk Head Concept Sketch

OK


Now how long until the 3rd parties make a robotic head for him.

I like it. Metalhawk is one of the few figures I actually want out of this set and to see that they're doing him as a full Pretender is a welcome sight. I just hope it turns out well. They normally just do robots.

I'd like it if it was a removable helmet/face. I dunno. Every other Pretender homage has integrated the face/shell in a robotic way, this just looks like a Centurion. Bonus points for the '80s kids who remember those.

I'd rather have the Cyclonus mold, and the Silverbolt mold for Overlord. I still want the set, but that's my opinion right now.

zodconvoy wrote:

Emperor Galvatron wrote:Bonus points for the '80s kids who remember those.

POWER X-TREME!

Bravo sir. Bravo.

Rated X wrote: This is supposed to be Botcon, not Dollcon.

Truer Words have never been spoken!

I'll get it because I like the character, but this toy should NOT be called "Metalhawk", as this is the Pretender shell, whose name in this form was simply "Hawk". The inner robot went by the name "Metalhawk".

Emperor Galvatron wrote:I'd rather have the Cyclonus mold, and the Silverbolt mold for Overlord.

This!

Rated X wrote:Sucks.

It is not a shell so it should not have the shells human face. This is supposed to be Botcon, not Dollcon.

zodconvoy wrote:

BeastProwl wrote:

Rated X wrote: This is supposed to be Botcon, not Dollcon.

Truer Words have never been spoken!

Every other Pretender that has had an update favored the shell. Every single one. Bludgeon, Skullgrin, Thunderwing, Black Shadow. The only reason why none of them have had human faces is because they were all Decepticons/Destrons.

This as well.

I love the idea behind this one and really like the effort.

pssssst hey third parties.....

why doesn't someone make a replacement for that little drone piece that transforms into the inner robot...and they could do repaints for the normal hasbro products too.

who would buy that? (raises hands).

I like it, we can always use more classics pretenders... too bad I'm not going to Botcon

Sabrblade wrote:I'll get it because I like the character, but this toy should NOT be called "Metalhawk", as this is the Pretender shell, whose name in this form was simply "Hawk". The inner robot went by the name "Metalhawk".

Emperor Galvatron wrote:I'd rather have the Cyclonus mold, and the Silverbolt mold for Overlord.

This!

Rated X wrote:Sucks.

It is not a shell so it should not have the shells human face. This is supposed to be Botcon, not Dollcon.

zodconvoy wrote:

BeastProwl wrote:

Rated X wrote: This is supposed to be Botcon, not Dollcon.

Truer Words have never been spoken!

Every other Pretender that has had an update favored the shell. Every single one. Bludgeon, Skullgrin, Thunderwing, Black Shadow. The only reason why none of them have had human faces is because they were all Decepticons/Destrons.

This as well.

My point is the concept just won’t receive the same love as the Decepticon pretenders. I am an 80’s child so I can vouch for this. I had Skullgrin and Bugly as a kid. The Decepticon pretenders sold while the Autobot pretenders were shelf warmers. No kid wanted to own an oversized human doll.

Now back to 2012. Thanks to Michael Bay, a robot can have any type of weird alien, bug, skull, or monster face and still pass as a robot. But a human face? It’s as stupid a concept now as it was 25 years ago. Scale wise, the robot inside the shell would have to be as small as a child, while the Decepticon pretenders could be any size since there is no scale for monsters. Unless you would be “fooled” by a 20 foot tall human walking down the block. I never saw the 80's japanese cartoon, so I dont know if the humans played a different role than as the actual figures which portrayed them as huge shells. But judging from these photos posted, even a deluxe is way out of scale with other classics figures. Maybe if he were legends size.

I understand the homage factor, but the cool factor just isn’t there.