Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-11T Thundercracker Announced!
Tuesday, July 28th, 2015 8:53AM CDT
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Posted by Optimizzy on July 28th, 2015 @ 9:04am CDT
Posted by Wheeljack808 on July 28th, 2015 @ 9:50am CDT
I am super stoked though, can't wait to get this.
Posted by Powered Convoy on July 28th, 2015 @ 10:27am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Powered Convoy wrote:The TakaraTomy Mall site says this will be available in other areas of Asia, so no need to worry about it just being TTM like some of their other exclusives.
Randy
Do you think it will be the same price though?
Most retailers charged $200 for MP-11SW Skywarp. I hope that's not the case for MP-11T Thundercracker as his retail price in Japan translates to around $120 USD.
Randy
Posted by shajaki on July 28th, 2015 @ 11:08am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 28th, 2015 @ 11:11am CDT
shajaki wrote:Part of me is scratching out my eyeballs because TC and SW have right side up insignias while SS has them upside down. A small part of me. But really I'm just happy that I can now have a set of three with matching yellow cockpits.
How are the insignias on the Hasbro Starscream coming out this year?
Posted by Sabrblade on July 28th, 2015 @ 11:31am CDT
Or will it?
Hey Randy, any show-inaccuracies to be found on this one like with Skywarp?
Posted by megatronus on July 28th, 2015 @ 12:54pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 28th, 2015 @ 1:03pm CDT
megatronus wrote:I'm excited for this, not just because it looks great, but because it means if Takara releases yet another seeker, it will probably be a conehead
Just wondering but how much of a retool would it be for this mold to be used as a conehead? Because for G1 and Classics it was easier since the nosecone was extraneous kibble. But this MP prides itself (to my personal chagrin), on the nosecone ending up doubling upon the chest and filling out the back (even pushing out). The robot head is no where near the nosecone. So wouldnt a conehead be practically a whole rehaul of this mold?
Posted by Mindmaster on July 28th, 2015 @ 1:11pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:megatronus wrote:I'm excited for this, not just because it looks great, but because it means if Takara releases yet another seeker, it will probably be a conehead
Just wondering but how much of a retool would it be for this mold to be used as a conehead? Because for G1 and Classics it was easier since the nosecone was extraneous kibble. But this MP prides itself (to my personal chagrin), on the nosecone ending up doubling upon the chest and filling out the back (even pushing out). The robot head is no where near the nosecone. So wouldnt a conehead be practically a whole rehaul of this mold?
As far as the head is concerned, I wouldn't be mad at all if they just made new heads and called it a day, no crazy changes to how the nosecone/canopy assembly, just like the iGear boys.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 28th, 2015 @ 1:13pm CDT
Yeah, the robot mode head could use a fake nosecone while the real one stays hidden on the back.Mindmaster wrote:william-james88 wrote:megatronus wrote:I'm excited for this, not just because it looks great, but because it means if Takara releases yet another seeker, it will probably be a conehead
Just wondering but how much of a retool would it be for this mold to be used as a conehead? Because for G1 and Classics it was easier since the nosecone was extraneous kibble. But this MP prides itself (to my personal chagrin), on the nosecone ending up doubling upon the chest and filling out the back (even pushing out). The robot head is no where near the nosecone. So wouldnt a conehead be practically a whole rehaul of this mold?
As far as the head is concerned, I wouldn't be mad at all if they just made new heads and called it a day, no crazy changes to how the nosecone/canopy assembly, just like the iGear boys.
Though, new wings that somehow attach to the legs are a must.
Posted by megatronus on July 28th, 2015 @ 1:18pm CDT
I do think a cone head would involve some retooling, but really just the central column where the cockpit lies. I doubt the vast majority of the figure - arms, legs, waist, outer bits of the torso, etc. would have to change at all.
Posted by william-james88 on July 28th, 2015 @ 1:42pm CDT
megatronus wrote:The wings is more a re-shelling thing - I'm less concerned about that.
I do think a cone head would involve some retooling, but really just the central column where the cockpit lies. I doubt the vast majority of the figure - arms, legs, waist, outer bits of the torso, etc. would have to change at all.
Yeah, I agree on the wings, though that does make me think of something. While the seekers all use the same mold, each conehead has a different wing design. That is bound to make them pricier to produce per figure.
Also, since it is the masterpiece line, I would really want the head to be the actual nosecone and not just a fake cone. We already had a dirge like that:
Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Dirge Gallery
Posted by Seibertron on July 28th, 2015 @ 2:10pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 28th, 2015 @ 2:19pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Where are MP-11CD, MP-11CR and MP-11CT (Coneheads Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust)? C'mon Takara!
Well, they had to finish the trio first and get the intial gang before moving on, I guess:
Still lots of Autobots to go:
Posted by Lord Nightmare on July 28th, 2015 @ 2:30pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 28th, 2015 @ 2:37pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Well it's about time Takara gave Thundercracker this treatment with this mold. Hasbro's was Generations Deluxe-accurate while this one will be given proper show-accurate justice.
Or will it?
Hey Randy, any show-inaccuracies to be found on this one like with Skywarp?
Wasn't MP-11SW released only in the greater Asian market and not in Japan? I wonder if Takara will eventually do a more show accurate Masterpiece Skywarp, nixing those extraneous paint apps on the shoulders, wrists, and chest, and make it another Takara-Tomy Mall exclusive, but restrict the distribution to Japan, unlike what they're planning with MP-11T.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 28th, 2015 @ 4:16pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 28th, 2015 @ 4:19pm CDT
Posted by mcfmullen on July 28th, 2015 @ 5:45pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Where are MP-11CD, MP-11CR and MP-11CT (Coneheads Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust)? C'mon Takara!
Never going to happen. If they make Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust, they'd be retools, not repaints. Retools get their own numbers (see Exhaust and Road Rage) while repaints get suffixes (see MP-18B, MP-21G, etc).
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 28th, 2015 @ 6:09pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:I'm surprised that Takara gave Thundercracker a black nosecone. Perhaps not the same people that are in charge of the main figures?
Maybe it's an issue of where on the plastic sprues that parts are cast? The nosecone might end up with the black tail fins, fists, forearms, etc. Sure, they could paint it blue, but they might not get a good color match with the light blue plastic they're using for the main body/fuselage of the figure. Or maybe Takara doesn't want Skywarp to feel bad being the only seeker with screen-inaccurate details added to his deco.
Posted by Jones on July 28th, 2015 @ 6:34pm CDT
And on that note, I was definitely pumped to learn about the TRU release of MP11 Starscream coming down the pipe! I have hope that this will be followed by a TRU version of Skywarp so I can have all three G1 seekers at much more affordable prices. Even if Starscream is more expensive than Thundercracker was (say around $100), he will still be easier on the wallet than the Takara version. If they do the same thing for Skywarp? I will be experiencing much happiness.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 28th, 2015 @ 8:32pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:shajaki wrote:Part of me is scratching out my eyeballs because TC and SW have right side up insignias while SS has them upside down. A small part of me. But really I'm just happy that I can now have a set of three with matching yellow cockpits.
How are the insignias on the Hasbro Starscream coming out this year?
The Hasbro version, at least from stock photography, appears to have the Decepticon emblems correctly oriented (upside down when in robot mode). That is also, as I understand it, how identifying markings are supposed to be oriented on actual fighter jets. I have no idea why it gets mixed up so often, and so inconsistently, with seeker releases.
Posted by SteveGo on July 28th, 2015 @ 8:42pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 28th, 2015 @ 9:11pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:I'm surprised that Takara gave Thundercracker a black nosecone. Perhaps not the same people that are in charge of the main figures?
Now that I think about it, MP-10 also has some inconsistencies with his screen appearance, like the silver striping on the sides of the cab and the gray shin plates on his legs. The first is at least toy accurate, but the latter isn't particularly accurate to anything G1. Still, it doesn't seem to distract from MP-10 being the best rendition of G1 Optimus to date. Thundercracker's black nose cone is at least toy accurate, like the blue nosecone Hasbro is using for their otherwise identical to the Takara version release of MP-11 (sine coronation accessories). At least it's not a situation such as with MP-11SW, with extraneous paint apps that don't at all correspond to his G1 cartoon OR toy look.
Posted by william-james88 on July 28th, 2015 @ 10:29pm CDT
SteveGo wrote:Does anyone have any experience ordering from Takara Tomy Mall via a forwarding service like Tenso? I'm seriously contemplating doing this for MP-11T.
This will be released in asia under hasbro asia though, at a mark up. I think that is the easier way to get him by bypassing ttmall since your intermidiary is Hasbro and plus you'd be getting a cool collector coin.
Posted by megatronus on July 29th, 2015 @ 12:02am CDT
william-james88 wrote:SteveGo wrote:Does anyone have any experience ordering from Takara Tomy Mall via a forwarding service like Tenso? I'm seriously contemplating doing this for MP-11T.
This will be released in asia under hasbro asia though, at a mark up. I think that is the easier way to get him by bypassing ttmall since your intermidiary is Hasbro and plus you'd be getting a cool collector coin.
Also, I believe you need to be a resident of Japan to order from TakaraTomy Mall. Or is that just Amazon.jp?
Posted by SteveGo on July 29th, 2015 @ 12:06am CDT
megatronus wrote:william-james88 wrote:SteveGo wrote:Does anyone have any experience ordering from Takara Tomy Mall via a forwarding service like Tenso? I'm seriously contemplating doing this for MP-11T.
This will be released in asia under hasbro asia though, at a mark up. I think that is the easier way to get him by bypassing ttmall since your intermidiary is Hasbro and plus you'd be getting a cool collector coin.
Also, I believe you need to be a resident of Japan to order from TakaraTomy Mall. Or is that just Amazon.jp?
Which is why I mentioned the forwarding service, Tenso. They ae located in Japan and will take shipments from places like Amazon.co.jp and then send it to you.
Posted by william-james88 on July 29th, 2015 @ 12:08am CDT
SteveGo wrote:megatronus wrote:william-james88 wrote:SteveGo wrote:Does anyone have any experience ordering from Takara Tomy Mall via a forwarding service like Tenso? I'm seriously contemplating doing this for MP-11T.
This will be released in asia under hasbro asia though, at a mark up. I think that is the easier way to get him by bypassing ttmall since your intermidiary is Hasbro and plus you'd be getting a cool collector coin.
Also, I believe you need to be a resident of Japan to order from TakaraTomy Mall. Or is that just Amazon.jp?
Which is why I mentioned the forwarding service, Tenso. They ae located in Japan and will take shipments from places like Amazon.co.jp and then send it to you.
Depending on what they charge, you might just be better off waiting for hadbro Asia to distribute it. Less of a headache for sure.
Posted by megatronus on July 29th, 2015 @ 12:09am CDT
SteveGo wrote:megatronus wrote:william-james88 wrote:SteveGo wrote:Does anyone have any experience ordering from Takara Tomy Mall via a forwarding service like Tenso? I'm seriously contemplating doing this for MP-11T.
This will be released in asia under hasbro asia though, at a mark up. I think that is the easier way to get him by bypassing ttmall since your intermidiary is Hasbro and plus you'd be getting a cool collector coin.
Also, I believe you need to be a resident of Japan to order from TakaraTomy Mall. Or is that just Amazon.jp?
Which is why I mentioned the forwarding service, Tenso. They ae located in Japan and will take shipments from places like Amazon.co.jp and then send it to you.
That... changes everything.
Posted by SteveGo on July 29th, 2015 @ 12:21am CDT
william-james88 wrote:SteveGo wrote:megatronus wrote:william-james88 wrote:SteveGo wrote:Does anyone have any experience ordering from Takara Tomy Mall via a forwarding service like Tenso? I'm seriously contemplating doing this for MP-11T.
This will be released in asia under hasbro asia though, at a mark up. I think that is the easier way to get him by bypassing ttmall since your intermidiary is Hasbro and plus you'd be getting a cool collector coin.
Also, I believe you need to be a resident of Japan to order from TakaraTomy Mall. Or is that just Amazon.jp?
Which is why I mentioned the forwarding service, Tenso. They ae located in Japan and will take shipments from places like Amazon.co.jp and then send it to you.
Depending on what they charge, you might just be better off waiting for hadbro Asia to distribute it. Less of a headache for sure.
Well, for instance, I have a package there currently that weighs 380 grams and for EMS it will cost 2010 yen.
I believe they go by weight. I don't know what the weight of MP-11T will be, but here is a calculator for their service: http://www.tenso.com/en/estimate/
Posted by Powered Convoy on July 29th, 2015 @ 7:27am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Well it's about time Takara gave Thundercracker this treatment with this mold. Hasbro's was Generations Deluxe-accurate while this one will be given proper show-accurate justice.
Or will it?
Hey Randy, any show-inaccuracies to be found on this one like with Skywarp?
- Black Nosecone
- Black forearms and hands (they should be gray)
- Wrong orientation on Decepticon symbols on wings
- Silver outline on Decepticon symbols
- Chest turbines should be the same silver used on the rest of his body (some photos they look darker)
Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well it's about time Takara gave Thundercracker this treatment with this mold. Hasbro's was Generations Deluxe-accurate while this one will be given proper show-accurate justice.
Or will it?
Hey Randy, any show-inaccuracies to be found on this one like with Skywarp?
Wasn't MP-11SW released only in the greater Asian market and not in Japan? I wonder if Takara will eventually do a more show accurate Masterpiece Skywarp, nixing those extraneous paint apps on the shoulders, wrists, and chest, and make it another Takara-Tomy Mall exclusive, but restrict the distribution to Japan, unlike what they're planning with MP-11T.
Yes, MP-11SW was China only release (no Malaysia, Hong Kong, etc).
SteveGo wrote:Does anyone have any experience ordering from Takara Tomy Mall via a forwarding service like Tenso? I'm seriously contemplating doing this for MP-11T.
Yes. It's not easy as I've had inconsistent luck getting my credit card to work with TTM.
Randy
Posted by william-james88 on July 29th, 2015 @ 8:04am CDT
SteveGo wrote:
I believe they go by weight. I don't know what the weight of MP-11T will be, but here is a calculator for their service: http://www.tenso.com/en/estimate/
So I did the calculation and EMS is 3,580Yen for MP Seekers (they weigh about 1120 grams). I assume you ship to Tenso first so the cost would be the TTMall price plus shipping domestic plus 3,580Yen, which is not bad since that price is "shipped" while the premium of the Hasbro asia edition would not include the shipping. You are not saving that much in the end.
Look at this:
Limited exclusive Bluestreak for 64.64$ US : http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810827825/
Hasbro Asia distributed version (does it come with coin?) for 69.99$ US: http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp18b.html
So for 5$ more, you avoid having to pay double shipping and handling fees. Tenso might not be your best option. However, if it turns out Hasbro Asia cant/wont distribute this, then there may be no choice.
Posted by megatronus on July 29th, 2015 @ 9:09am CDT
william-james88 wrote:SteveGo wrote:
I believe they go by weight. I don't know what the weight of MP-11T will be, but here is a calculator for their service: http://www.tenso.com/en/estimate/
So I did the calculation and EMS is 3,580Yen for MP Seekers (they weigh about 1120 grams). I assume you ship to Tenso first so the cost would be the TTMall price plus shipping domestic plus 3,580Yen, which is not bad since that price is "shipped" while the premium of the Hasbro asia edition would not include the shipping. You are not saving that much in the end.
Look at this:
Limited exclusive Bluestreak for 64.64$ US : http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810827825/
Hasbro Asia distributed version (does it come with coin?) for 69.99$ US: http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp18b.html
So for 5$ more, you avoid having to pay double shipping and handling fees. Tenso might not be your best option. However, if it turns out Hasbro Asia cant/wont distribute this, then there may be no choice.
It's worth keeping in mind that RobotKingdom prices are an absolute ripoff. The final price could turn out better with Tenso. ("Could." not "will.")
Posted by william-james88 on July 29th, 2015 @ 10:22am CDT
megatronus wrote:It's worth keeping in mind that RobotKingdom prices are an absolute ripoff. The final price could turn out better with Tenso. ("Could." not "will.")
You mean their shipping prices right? Yeah, I agree. My absolutel favourite way to get Takara products is through other Japanese retailers who discount from the TTMALL MSRP (which has been proven to be bogus in Japanese retail). That's why I am always pissed that they get an exclusive, since other Japanese online retailers cant have them. There have been quite a few this year.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 29th, 2015 @ 11:09am CDT
I only ever bought from RobotKingdom once, and it was only because the purchase in question was a special deal that included free shipping.william-james88 wrote:megatronus wrote:It's worth keeping in mind that RobotKingdom prices are an absolute ripoff. The final price could turn out better with Tenso. ("Could." not "will.")
You mean their shipping prices right? Yeah, I agree. My absolutel favourite way to get Takara products is through other Japanese retailers who discount from the TTMALL MSRP (which has been proven to be bogus in Japanese retail). That's why I am always pissed that they get an exclusive, since other Japanese online retailers cant have them. There have been quite a few this year.
Though, the price for the item itself was still huge since it was a 3rd party item.
Posted by megatronus on July 29th, 2015 @ 12:33pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I only ever bought from RobotKingdom once, and it was only because the purchase in question was a special deal that included free shipping.william-james88 wrote:megatronus wrote:It's worth keeping in mind that RobotKingdom prices are an absolute ripoff. The final price could turn out better with Tenso. ("Could." not "will.")
You mean their shipping prices right? Yeah, I agree. My absolutel favourite way to get Takara products is through other Japanese retailers who discount from the TTMALL MSRP (which has been proven to be bogus in Japanese retail). That's why I am always pissed that they get an exclusive, since other Japanese online retailers cant have them. There have been quite a few this year.
Though, the price for the item itself was still huge since it was a 3rd party item.
Sabr, was it Genesis?
And yea, Will, I was referring to the shipping.
Last time I shopped at RK was a few months ago, when TFsource announced that their stock of EVA MP10 would not be arriving. RK was the last place that had it.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 29th, 2015 @ 7:41pm CDT
Close. Twas actually a special bundle offer of Genesis, Genesis's head upgrade, and Caelus all in one.megatronus wrote:Sabr, was it Genesis?
Took my wallet forever to forgive me after that purchase, but the RK price w/ free shipping was still less expensive than the total price BBTS was offering for all of the same items.
Posted by megatronus on July 29th, 2015 @ 8:24pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Close. Twas actually a special bundle offer of Genesis, Genesis's head upgrade, and Caelus all in one.megatronus wrote:Sabr, was it Genesis?
Took my wallet forever to forgive me after that purchase, but the RK price w/ free shipping was still less expensive than the total price BBTS was offering for all of the same items.
I recall that deal. I had just sold my MISB Genesis, and was thinking about repurchasing because of that package. I didn't go for it.
Posted by Powered Convoy on August 3rd, 2015 @ 7:02am CDT
He was sold out at least by 3 AM or so, possibly sooner.
Randy
Posted by Va'al on August 30th, 2015 @ 6:39am CDT
TFSource - MP-11T Thundercracker, $199.99, November 2015.
BBTS - MP-11T Thundercracker, $199.99, December 2015.
Posted by Powered Convoy on August 30th, 2015 @ 8:56am CDT
Posted by Joetx on August 30th, 2015 @ 9:42am CDT
Posted by Va'al on August 30th, 2015 @ 9:42am CDT
Joetx wrote:Just FYI: This version of Thundercracker is an F-15, not an F-22. The Bayverse Thundercracker was an F-22, though.
I'm aware of that, I just wanted to use one of the best lines from the IDWverse Thundercracker.
Posted by Bounti76 on August 31st, 2015 @ 1:54am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 1st, 2015 @ 9:04am CDT
- http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-11t-thundercracker/This is the Asian market release of this product
There is no given amount for this release but it is not the 2000 limited item that was exclusive at Takaratomy mall. So the price isnt due to exclusivity in this case (unlike Takara Defensor, for instance) but solely due to importing.
I just wanted collectors to know the facts and not to be jipped on the notion of what they are buying.
Posted by robotmel on October 25th, 2015 @ 3:49pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 25th, 2015 @ 3:50pm CDT
And all of them are broken.robotmel wrote::D
Found some lovely in hand photos of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-11T Thundercracker over on ACToys.net (huzi558)
Posted by robotmel on October 25th, 2015 @ 4:05pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 25th, 2015 @ 4:06pm CDT