Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Flip'n' Change Grimlock, Smash'n'Change Optimus Prime
Saturday, April 19th, 2014 6:18AM CDT
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Posted by craggy on April 19th, 2014 @ 6:32am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 19th, 2014 @ 6:36am CDT
What's a Gaobot? Some sort of beast thing?craggy wrote:I still hold out that if this was the kind of toy aimed at us as kids we'd be on a website called Gaobotron.com
Posted by craggy on April 19th, 2014 @ 6:49am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 19th, 2014 @ 6:54am CDT
I wonder if there even is a Japanese name for it, lol.craggy wrote:well, I typed Gobotron, then realised that's probably already a site. Since we use the Japanese spelling of Cybertron, and I was too lazy to look up if there was a Japanese translation of the Gobots' homeworld, I winged it.
Posted by craggy on April 19th, 2014 @ 6:58am CDT
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on April 19th, 2014 @ 7:08am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 19th, 2014 @ 7:15am CDT
You say that like they're never going to make those toys. As though the movie toylines never have any more toys after Wave 1.OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Hasbro could have used all of that plastic for a Deluxe Stinger, Lockdown, and Concept Camaro Bumblebee (something that we want to see).
Posted by craggy on April 19th, 2014 @ 7:20am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:You say that like they're never going to make those toys. As though the movie toylines never have any more toys after Wave 1.OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Hasbro could have used all of that plastic for a Deluxe Stinger, Lockdown, and Concept Camaro Bumblebee (something that we want to see).
to be fair, it does sometimes seem like it, with The Hive clogging the shelves. Should be better this time around what with there only being 1 Bee per case and I'll be doing my part to clear the shelves of Dinobots at least.
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on April 19th, 2014 @ 8:34am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:You say that like they're never going to make those toys. As though the movie toylines never have any more toys after Wave 1.
My main point of the comment was that kids and adult collectors don't like simple Transformers. Have you ever heard a someone get excited for some Cyberverse toys. Well I haven't. That plastic could have been used to make Deluxe Bumblebee, Lockdown, Stinger, or possibly [and hopefully but it's very possible that it will never happen] a Leader Class Galvatron. I know that more movie toys are released after Wave 1, but a cheaply made toy is not something a someone would want. It's a waste of plastic. These simplified Transformers are a waste of plastic. That's why I said that.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 19th, 2014 @ 8:40am CDT
Those quick changing toys could have been Cyberverses instead.
But maybe Cyberverses were not selling enough.
Posted by Evil Eye on April 19th, 2014 @ 8:51am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 19th, 2014 @ 8:52am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Hey, I LOVE Cyberverse toys.
Those quick changing toys could have been Cyberverses instead.
But maybe Cyberverses were not selling enough.
Speaking of easy yet fun, how many of you love, adore and admire the Gravity Bots?
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on April 19th, 2014 @ 9:24am CDT
They're not spectacular, but they're cute, they have articulation, and they're kinda cool. And I'm pretty sure that the smallest size of the kids toys are gonna cost about as much as these did. Just my opinion, but something like this would've been cooler, and in my view would probably sell better.
Posted by TimothyR on April 19th, 2014 @ 3:07pm CDT
even with their main line figures, they decided to color every single one of them wrong. this is an unacceptable way to treat the fans that pay their inflated salaries.. especially on the 30th anniversary of the brand.. it's pathetic.
Posted by Rated X on April 19th, 2014 @ 5:32pm CDT
Posted by Dr. Caelus on April 19th, 2014 @ 5:58pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Hey, I LOVE Cyberverse toys.
Those quick changing toys could have been Cyberverses instead.
But maybe Cyberverses were not selling enough.
I'd have a lot more of them if they (1) had minicon ports and (2) cost a lot less. Mostly #2. I like fiddly little Transformers I can carry in my pocket and transform without looking at it (e.g., while reading journal articles, coding videos, listening to lectures), but dang the price seems disproportionate to the size/complexity.
Posted by DinobotScorn on April 19th, 2014 @ 8:59pm CDT
How much does this crap even cost? If it's anything over $10, it's not worth it at all.
(Fingers still crossed that the Lockdown from this line can be good.)
Posted by Flashwave on April 19th, 2014 @ 9:50pm CDT
DinobotScorn wrote:Ok, this is the complete opposite of what I was expecting. Either this guy got a dud of a Grimlock, or that Toy Fair demo was lying to us. As for Smashin' Optimus there, yeah...he blows, too.
How much does this crap even cost? If it's anything over $10, it's not worth it at all.
(Fingers still crossed that the Lockdown from this line can be good.)
Hold on, let me check, these showed up in a Walmart two nights ago.
$19.96 if the shelf tag is right.
Posted by Evil Eye on April 20th, 2014 @ 2:41pm CDT
TimothyR wrote:i'm starting to hope that this entire line tanks.. hopefully it'll show hasbro that we're not going to tolerate this crap.
even with their main line figures, they decided to color every single one of them wrong. this is an unacceptable way to treat the fans that pay their inflated salaries.. especially on the 30th anniversary of the brand.. it's pathetic.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like they're kid's toys or anything.
Seriously though, the adult fandom isn't the only (or even largest) demographic that Hasbro has to pander to. This isn't MLP (where the actual target demographic is smaller than the hordes of sweaty manchildren that fantasize about stunted horses). Most of the buyers will be kids. For the most part, they won't pass a toy because "THE GREY OF HIS WRIST JOINTS IS 1/5TH OF A SHADE TOO PALE!!!", they decide on whether to get a toy because it looks cool/fun. Heck, I absolutely loved Armada Laserbeak when I was a kid, and that guy's been bashed to hell and back by collectors. Heck, to Hasbro, pandering to the kids instead of the collectors probably seems like a better idea- kids are fairly easy to impress, whilst a lot of collectors will skip a toy because the figure's fingers are a millimetre too long. Basic marketing.
Besides, they've been cranking out some excellent Generations figures to keep the "mature" fans happy.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 20th, 2014 @ 3:03pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:TimothyR wrote:i'm starting to hope that this entire line tanks.. hopefully it'll show hasbro that we're not going to tolerate this crap.
even with their main line figures, they decided to color every single one of them wrong. this is an unacceptable way to treat the fans that pay their inflated salaries.. especially on the 30th anniversary of the brand.. it's pathetic.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like they're kid's toys or anything.
Seriously though, the adult fandom isn't the only (or even largest) demographic that Hasbro has to pander to. This isn't MLP (where the actual target demographic is smaller than the hordes of sweaty manchildren that fantasize about stunted horses). Most of the buyers will be kids. For the most part, they won't pass a toy because "THE GREY OF HIS WRIST JOINTS IS 1/5TH OF A SHADE TOO PALE!!!", they decide on whether to get a toy because it looks cool/fun. Heck, I absolutely loved Armada Laserbeak when I was a kid, and that guy's been bashed to hell and back by collectors. Heck, to Hasbro, pandering to the kids instead of the collectors probably seems like a better idea- kids are fairly easy to impress, whilst a lot of collectors will skip a toy because the figure's fingers are a millimetre too long. Basic marketing.
Besides, they've been cranking out some excellent Generations figures to keep the "mature" fans happy.
You diss the adults MLP fans has being "manchildren" but then you give the perfect argument that the adult TF collectors are manchildren too.
Face it, no matter what kind of toys we collect, we will be seen as "manchildren" by the general public. So, let's not be hipsters by saying one kind of collection is better than another, shall we? That's childish behavior.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 20th, 2014 @ 3:05pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 20th, 2014 @ 3:12pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I've accepted myself as being a manchild (as in, an adult with the heart of a child) a long time ago.
Yup, and I am too. I don't know why, but I just LOVE toys!
The engeneering.
The details of the sculpts.
These are interactive peice of art!
If it werent for budjet and space restriction, I would collect:
Way more TFs.
Way more MLP toys (I barey have any compared to my TF collection)
Monster high.
GI-Joe.
True Heroes.
Lego/megablocks anything.
Pokemon.
He-Man.
Electric trains.
Barbie collectors.
Smurfs.
Army Mens.
Scale Models.
Hot Toys.
Figmas.
Antique Little People Fisher Price toys.
Marvel.
DC.
And more!
Now, just my TF collection is getting way too big by itself and I have to get rid of the one I like less for more space.
Sigh.... Why money and space is so restricted?
Posted by Va'al on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:03pm CDT
Posted by MantaScorp on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:19pm CDT
And Galvatron seems to have switched sides!
http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_U ... FF20:en_US
Posted by dreadwing95 on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:27pm CDT
MantaScorp wrote:Strafe looks incorrectly transformed in dino mode. Gotta push the head together!
And Galvatron seems to have switched sides!
http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_U ... FF20:en_US
that makes me really happy. so i guess hes might be built from parts from him but hes got a different personality
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:31pm CDT
dreadwing95 wrote:MantaScorp wrote:Strafe looks incorrectly transformed in dino mode. Gotta push the head together!
And Galvatron seems to have switched sides!
http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_U ... FF20:en_US
that makes me really happy. so i guess hes might be built from parts from him but hes got a different personality
It's a website goof, as the packaging still has the next to his name.
Posted by Evil Eye on April 21st, 2014 @ 3:04pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:This figure is not looking good, as revealed in in this review - http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/981617-aoe-leader-grimlock.htmlAfter getting Voyager Grimlock I had really high hopes that Leader Grimlock would make up for some of his shortcomings, this proved to be wrong. The figure while engineered to obviously be much bigger is in many ways more simplistic than the voyager mode and overall I was not particularly happy with him.
One huge call out to start us with… the chrome, my god the chrome! If you feel that Hasbro hasn’t been using chrome enough then this is the guy for you because he’s covered in it. And in a lovely turn of events it begins chipping pretty much right out of the box. I have several spots on mine (mostly on the T-Rex head) where chrome has already flecked away. Such a pain!
Box:
Bot Mode:
Fresh out of the case he is in his bot mode, his directions however have him in T-Rex mode and it can be a bit of a pain to follow them backwards, but that’s jumping ahead.
Leaders have apparently gotten smaller. Grimlock is dwarfed by every other movie leader I own and while height wise he looks just slightly shorter, you can tell when holding him that there is much less mass in the figure then there have been in the previous movie leader-size figures.
He has 17 points of articulation, depending on how you’re counting. His head turns, but cannot be moved in any other way. His arms… are a pain for posing! Here are his shoulders folded all the way down:
Here are his arms the very next click outwards:
Let me make this clear, there is no in-between on these two points! You’re left trying to pose his forearms as much as possible to make up for this. Speaking of his forearms, the kibble from his feet is much less than that of Voyager Grimlock , but it in turn leads to the legs of T-Rex mode looking much more simplistic.
I have some good news for you if you’re not a fan of the whole elf shoe thing that Grimlocks have been sporting. Here is how the directions say his feet should be:
Here is how I believe 95% of the fandom will choose to keep theirs:
Weapons, he comes with his big mace thing and a shield that clips on to his forearm. The mace grips in very tight with his hands you shouldn’t have trouble posing it. Both combine to form the tail in his T-Rex form.
Some comparison shots:
T-Rex Mode:
I would not call this a T-Rex anymore. He is clearly an Asian themed dinosaur/dragon thing. Unlike the voyager, his horns/ears cannot be folded down or in any way covered up. They are out there permanently.
Size wise he is maybe 30%-40% larger than the voyager in this mode, but much less poseable. His arms fit so high on his body that when fully extended they barely clear his chest, let alone his head. His tail has no articulation at all. In fact his tail is so short it’s almost funny.
His jaw is poseable, unlike the voyager one, but that’s really one of the few areas where he is superior.
Are those his bot fists clearly sitting on the back of his feet? Why yes they are!
My original plan was to keep voyager in T-Rex and leader in bot mode. Then when I saw how weak the voyager T-Rex was I planned on doing the opposite. Now however I have switched back again and Leader will be remaining in his bot mode. So long as it is very far away from every other leader I own so that he doesn’t look tiny in comparison!
Overall:
I’d still get him, because I’m a hardcore Grimlock fan, but I see a lot of fans passing on him and/or being disappointed with him.
Major latesauce, i know, but...I actually like the look of Leader Grimmy. I will confess to being a major whore for chrome, and I'm not gonna lie, that shiny dino skull looks killer. Likewise, the chrome on his dino back looks good, although the fact it gives him shiny inner legs is odd. Still, I'd buy him for the chromed noggin alone.
Also, I've realized what the problem is with the dino proportions. The neck is actually the correct length. The problem is that the tail is too short, but more importantly, the arms are way too small, even for a T-Rex. I reckon if you took the dino arms off and replaced them with some bigger ones (which shouldn't be too hard- just get a suitable pair of arms, a 3mm drill and a set of Revoltech joints and you're good to go) he'd look much better.
I like the mace a lot more too. It looks more Bay-y than the black corncob o' doom on the Voyager.
So, yeah. I think I love this figure. I might just buy it. Well, once I've gotten the other figures I'm after anyway (Scorn, Slug, Strafe, and a bunch of Unicron Trilogy and Animated figures I've taken a liking too)...
Oh who am I kidding, if I see him for a good price and my bank account is healthy, he's mine.
Posted by BERSEKAEL on April 21st, 2014 @ 11:17pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 22nd, 2014 @ 7:29am CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on April 22nd, 2014 @ 7:34am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 22nd, 2014 @ 8:10am CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 22nd, 2014 @ 8:14am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Wait! Look at that second pic of Grimlock! Next to him are redecos of the Generations Legends Targetmasters. A black Roller, a red Blazemaster, a blue/yellow Waspinator, and a blue/gray Chop Shop.
I wrote a line about those, and it forgot to save. Let me go re-add it.
Posted by Peridot on April 22nd, 2014 @ 8:20am CDT
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on April 22nd, 2014 @ 9:12am CDT
Posted by Downbeat on April 22nd, 2014 @ 2:23pm CDT
courtesy of Hasbro's facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater
In celebration of Earth Day, we’ve partnered with Waste Management to bring you an exclusive reveal of a new toy based on a character from Transformers: Age of Extinction — Junkheap. Power Battler Junkheap features a crushing attack claw that when activated can turn Autobots into scrap! Look for this figure on shelves this fall.
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on April 22nd, 2014 @ 2:45pm CDT
https://www.facebook.com/transformers?fref=photo
In celebration of Earth Day, we’ve partnered with Waste Management to bring you an exclusive reveal of a new toy based on a character from Transformers: Age of Extinction — Junkheap. Power Battler Junkheap features a crushing attack claw that when activated can turn Autobots into scrap! Look for this figure on shelves this fall.
Posted by Noideaforaname on April 22nd, 2014 @ 2:51pm CDT
Posted by craggy on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:05pm CDT
Posted by El Duque on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:07pm CDT
In celebration of Earth Day, we’ve partnered with Waste Management to bring you an exclusive reveal of a new toy based on a character from Transformers: Age of Extinction — Junkheap. Power Battler Junkheap features a crushing attack claw that when activated can turn Autobots into scrap! Look for this figure on shelves this fall.
Posted by GuyIncognito on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:07pm CDT
Also, as a civilian service vehicle, it seems like this should be an Autobot.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:10pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:15pm CDT
You'd think he'd have just been a reshell of one of the various Long Hauls, given that he's basically him.
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:30pm CDT
I hope this gets a Voyager i've been wanting one since DOTM .
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:34pm CDT
craggy wrote:I like the colours. What was a Power Battler again?
I think it's just like a fast action battler ?
Posted by ScottyP on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:37pm CDT
Autobot Genocide wrote:craggy wrote:I like the colours. What was a Power Battler again?
I think it's just like a fast action battler ?
Basically that, yep. Although I'd expect to see way more of these out than Generations movie stuff, since the simpler stuff seems to be more of their focus.
Posted by Mkall on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:42pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:45pm CDT
What about Animated Wreck-Gar?Mkall wrote:I've always wanted a garbage truck TF.
Posted by Mkall on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:52pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What about Animated Wreck-Gar?Mkall wrote:I've always wanted a garbage truck TF.
Doesn't fit my collecting style. At least these new movie figs are close to the aesthetics I like.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:56pm CDT
Only other garbage truck TF is Animated Wreck Gar, but a few years prior, when all those KOs of Armada bendy-Prime with different trailers hit Big Lots shortly before the Big-Crackdown, the only one I bothered with as the yellow garbage truck with a sticker proclaiming, "Super Truck-tor" on the sides. Since then, I've wanted an official TF with that alt in every universe. This guy should do well with anyone enamored with the flying garbage truck in the Lego Movie finale.
Posted by Evil Eye on April 22nd, 2014 @ 3:56pm CDT