Roadbuster wrote:You know Burn, that was right about the time I started reading them as well.
Wasn't Travis the one who started offing characters left and right because she could so long as it wasn't a main char?
If so, she deserved it.
And Burn, not everything will be scrapped. I imagine a few of the titles between films that don't involve reunions that aren't supposed to take place until film, or non-film first encounters will eb fine. Truce at Bakura, the X-Wing series, Courtship of Princess leia, and Thrawn Trilogy should okay. Shadows of the Empire had a fricken game to go along with it and it did a pretty good job being a setup for Return of the Jedi without stepping on any toes.
Splinters of the Minds Eye is one that will be dropped. It involves an encounter and fight between Luke and Vader where Luke cuts off his arm. Definitely will be scrapped given A. In ESB, Vader could ward off Luke with just one hand holding the lightsaber and B. Luke doesn't discover Vader has a robotic arm until Return of the Jedi, which is what got him to put the lightsaber down.
Dark Empire is one to debate since Palpatine is slated to appear as a Force ghost in the enw films.
Roadbuster wrote:You know Burn, that was right about the time I started reading them as well.
Wasn't Travis the one who started offing characters left and right because she could so long as it wasn't a main char?
If so, she deserved it.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Tronus_Rex wrote:Lucas forgot that, lightsabers, used to be big & heavy pieces of tech. that projected a laser.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Lucas forgot that, lightsabers, used to be big & heavy pieces of tech. that projected a laser.
Actually it's a fairly lightweight piece of tech that projects a stream of plasma suspended in a force field. The blade itself is weightless, which, with proper training, (Especially the enhanced reflexes and dexterity Jedi and Sith have) allows for extremely rapid attacks.
Tronus_Rex wrote:I jest, but seriously, Lucas's revision is based on Hollywood/movie fantasy, & not tried/tested sword physics.
Tronus_Rex wrote:A feather weight-ultimate cutting weapon has a flaw. Without the heft or gravity behind your strike or slash you can't do much but parry & thrust in defense & your ability to cut is diminished.
Tronus_Rex wrote:A solution for the lightsaber is to not treat it as simple plasma, for you'd be burn to death just by proximity.
Tronus_Rex wrote:Lucas's revision, is based in fantasy, and not physics.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Lucas's revision, is based in fantasy, and not physics.
Revision? That implies it was ever based on realism. Did Obi-Wan talking about the Force not clue you in that physics don't actually apply here? Or did you simply delude yourself into believing that Star Wars wasn't actually a swords-and-sorcery fantasy set in space?
Tronus_Rex wrote:Maybe not realism, but as character archetypes for a fantasy story; the Jedi were Knights-KNIGHTS!!! You really fail to catch that fact? There was a reason Lucas AND Anderson chose a heavier sword movement & action, in the original trilogies duels. The Jedi were not muskateers - they were knights influenced by samurai. Knights used swords with weight & gravity. Musketeers used stabbing-featherweight rapiers. The action was deliberately chosen to reflect the heavy sword a knight would wield.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Maybe not realism, but as character archetypes for a fantasy story; the Jedi were Knights-KNIGHTS!!! You really fail to catch that fact? There was a reason Lucas AND Anderson chose a heavier sword movement & action, in the original trilogies duels. The Jedi were not muskateers - they were knights influenced by samurai. Knights used swords with weight & gravity. Musketeers used stabbing-featherweight rapiers. The action was deliberately chosen to reflect the heavy sword a knight would wield.
And Jedi and Sith use weightless blades made out of plasma. The fact that you think the same rules apply here are astounding.
Also, do you know what the Jedi and Sith were aside from knights? Psychics. Crazy psychic powers, all around. Telekinesis, precognition, mind-reading, mind control, shooting lightning from their hands, astral projection, the works. They were not, nor were they ever, traditional knights. They're psychic-powered monks using weightless energy blades.
Tronus_Rex wrote:Okay, Shad', pick a direction to argue this from, either as a story or as realism.
Tronus_Rex wrote:it cannot work as a plasma weapon, nor as a laser, [I know that's the same thing]
Tronus_Rex wrote:My point is as a story, how the lightsaber is executed on screen, and it's intent. Realism, yeah, as I said many times now, it's an impossible blade. Otherwise my problems with the prequels are that the duels are just action, candy, no longer used to drive the story.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Okay, Shad', pick a direction to argue this from, either as a story or as realism.
Well, seeing as realism shouldn't be spoken of in this regard, let's go with story.Tronus_Rex wrote:it cannot work as a plasma weapon, nor as a laser, [I know that's the same thing]
They're not the same thing.
Tronus_Rex wrote:My point is as a story, how the lightsaber is executed on screen, and it's intent. Realism, yeah, as I said many times now, it's an impossible blade. Otherwise my problems with the prequels are that the duels are just action, candy, no longer used to drive the story.
The duels were always just action and fluff. It's just with the prequels, Lucas decided to stop pretending there's realism and just go for what looks coolest.
Tronus_Rex wrote:Yes they are Shad', a laser is a short for electrolaser which is a type of plasma, not just "hot" light. I'm sure you can check an encyclopedia to see for yourself.
Tronus_Rex wrote:You may be right in that he literally thought his laser sword duels were not appreciated, so he just made them as crazy as he could.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Yes they are Shad', a laser is a short for electrolaser which is a type of plasma, not just "hot" light. I'm sure you can check an encyclopedia to see for yourself.
It's short for "Light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation." Way to fail. Again. you probably should have checked an encyclopedia yourself.
njb902 wrote:As much as I like the novels you have mentioned Tronus_Rex, I think I'd be more excited if they made movies out of the x wing series.
Tronus_Rex wrote:[-PS Edit: because it's a plasma based laser, which fits Lucas's impossible explanation }
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Burn wrote:njb902 wrote:As much as I like the novels you have mentioned Tronus_Rex, I think I'd be more excited if they made movies out of the x wing series.
Especially Wraith Squadron. I love those guys, the Ewok most of all.
Tronus_Rex wrote:Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Yes they are Shad', a laser is a short for electrolaser which is a type of plasma, not just "hot" light. I'm sure you can check an encyclopedia to see for yourself.
It's short for "Light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation." Way to fail. Again. you probably should have checked an encyclopedia yourself.
Fail nothing Shad'-haha!-in the context of a weapons, or weaponized lasers, proper term is electrolaser, electron coming before l.a.s.e.r. & also being the full term. You read the cleaned up version of l.a.s.e.r., which most people don't know. Electron light amplification stimulation emission radiation & it's twin photon light amplification stimulation emission radiation, or phaser.
[Addition after checking again on: "phaser"] I just looked at a favorite book of mine for sci-fi related tech. Laser, electrolaser, phaser, ETC. aren't the only fun beams of focused death-radiatioin they're are more
I double checked when I read, phaser, which made me wonder because, it drops the "L" & adds "Ph" for photon. Phaser isn't just simply charged photons, that's something different, anyway-I won't bore you further, but the first idea for lasers used electron, photon, & a few more atoms, when created. Point is we were both right and wrong, just inaccurate.
When talking about something as simple as a laser from a pointer or a targeter, then yes, you're correct, as focused light it's just laser. But in the context of a lightsaber which is a weapon, electrolaser is the correct term as well as the full term. [-PS Edit: because it's a plasma based laser, which fits Lucas's impossible explanation }
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
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