Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Sighted at Australian Retail

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Thanks Va'al for posting that bit (though it took me a while to recall why I should know the name 'Wind Designs')

yeah I'm happy now.

just doin' mah job (and everyone else's on staff )

Glad they were happy to help out!

Once again via Weibo, we have a look at what may or may not be packaging art - but art nonetheless - featuring Optimus Prime and Megatron in battle, with the hive pattern behind them as a blue planet takes over the background. We don't want to speculate too much, but we are still waiting to find out more about a certain Cybertron Planet listing we saw a long while back.

Check it out and let us know what you think!

About time we had a movie Megatron pull the classic arm cannon pose!

That arm cannon kibble chunk is massive, hope it's removable in the very likely scenario that the figures qc is sh|t and the pins aren't tight enough to hold up the arm (like a certain black shadow figure I was so looking forward to)

Hellscream9999 wrote:That arm cannon kibble chunk is massive, hope it's removable in the very likely scenario that the figures qc is sh|t and the pins aren't tight enough to hold up the arm (like a certain black shadow figure I was so looking forward to)

Pretty sure its removeable. his arm is not attached to the nosecone in alt mode.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:That arm cannon kibble chunk is massive, hope it's removable in the very likely scenario that the figures qc is sh|t and the pins aren't tight enough to hold up the arm (like a certain black shadow figure I was so looking forward to)

Pretty sure its removeable. his arm is not attached to the nosecone in alt mode.

They're close enough to the cockpit kibble to have me worried the best figure in the line is going to have problems I can't fix

Oh shoot, is that big Overlord Jet Nosecone thing his fusion cannon?! This toy keeps getting better.

Kurona wrote:Oh shoot, is that big Overlord Jet Nosecone thing his fusion cannon?! This toy keeps getting better.

Yeah, the nosecone splits in half and accordions backwards to reveal the fusion cannon.

Come to me my leader Megatron

Va'al wrote:

Is... is there some kind of perspective trickery going on with that Raptor mold or something? He looks gigantic.

william-james88 wrote:Exactly, if Deadput doesnt want to get into arguments he's not looking for, he shouldnt be arguing about something unrelated.

@ Deadput, in light of this, your argument about black vs dark blue looks like arguing for the sake of it. Which is exactly what you wanted to avoid. Just go back and read what you quoted. If what you want to say has nothing to do with it, then dont quote it and you wont enter unecesarry arguments. Remember that for next time please.

Why the hell can I not just simply say that a character had blue armor and not black and leave it at that without joining the debate they were having about Blurr.

I did not want to talk about Blurr I wanted to correct Sabr saying that Drift's armor was black when it was not.

Like how is this so difficult for me to explain?

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Is that a new headsculpt on TLK Drift? The chin area looks different. I didn't notice the big difference in the car modes til now and why it ends up changing the transformation slightly. I do wonder if the backpack can be raised on the new figure to match the old. If nothing else the backpack works great for holding the unused swords and looks cool doing it.

It is, and it looks almost as glorious as the AoE voyager's head sculpt. I LOVE IT WITH A PASSION.

And yeah, I really hope you're not forced to have his backpack like a dumb cape like with Barricade.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:And who the heck put those little swords on AoE Drift in that last photo?

Probably some d*** with no love for samurais or HONOR!

...or the face terrified them the whole time and they just wanted to hurry up and stop touching it.

Does anyone think that it is possible they will release the voyagers of both Optimus and Megatron for this set? Just a thought.

fruityrobo wrote:Does anyone think that it is possible they will release the voyagers of both Optimus and Megatron for this set? Just a thought.

Maybe like a CW or TR box set, but early?

SillySpringer wrote:

fruityrobo wrote:Does anyone think that it is possible they will release the voyagers of both Optimus and Megatron for this set? Just a thought.

Maybe like a CW or TR box set, but early?

I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

fruityrobo wrote:Does anyone think that it is possible they will release the voyagers of both Optimus and Megatron for this set? Just a thought.

Maybe like a CW or TR box set, but early?

I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about

Or maybe a Platicum edition set, but it's normally assumed now that box sets are for a current line rather than an ongoing like Platinum.

I could dig a Optimus and Megatron voyager set.

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

fruityrobo wrote:Does anyone think that it is possible they will release the voyagers of both Optimus and Megatron for this set? Just a thought.

Maybe like a CW or TR box set, but early?

I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about

Or maybe a Platicum edition set, but it's normally assumed now that box sets are for a current line rather than an ongoing like Platinum.

I could dig a Optimus and Megatron voyager set.

I like the voyager prime, but I'm going to wait for TT's inevitable upgrades and black knight versions, no point in getting one of hasbro's lame deco's

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

fruityrobo wrote:Does anyone think that it is possible they will release the voyagers of both Optimus and Megatron for this set? Just a thought.

Maybe like a CW or TR box set, but early?

I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about

Or maybe a Platicum edition set, but it's normally assumed now that box sets are for a current line rather than an ongoing like Platinum.

I could dig a Optimus and Megatron voyager set.

I like the voyager prime, but I'm going to wait for TT's inevitable upgrades and black knight versions, no point in getting one of hasbro's lame deco's

...unless this is Takara's only version:



I like the challenge of customizing though, and I hope Reprolabels releases some flame deco stickers for the bugger.

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

fruityrobo wrote:Does anyone think that it is possible they will release the voyagers of both Optimus and Megatron for this set? Just a thought.

Maybe like a CW or TR box set, but early?

I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about

Or maybe a Platicum edition set, but it's normally assumed now that box sets are for a current line rather than an ongoing like Platinum.

I could dig a Optimus and Megatron voyager set.

I like the voyager prime, but I'm going to wait for TT's inevitable upgrades and black knight versions, no point in getting one of hasbro's lame deco's

...unless this is Takara's only version:



I like the challenge of customizing though, and I hope Reprolabels releases some flame deco stickers for the bugger.

Well, if history is anything to go by, it most certainly is not, may just take a while to see their improved version

Deadput wrote:I did not want to talk about Blurr I wanted to correct Sabr saying that Drift's armor was black when it was not.

So you were just pointing out that someone was wrong for the hell of it? How does that change or contribute anything to the discussion?

You just said you dont want to get into needless arguments, but this whole thing started because you were arguing what colour something was. For nothing. You cant get more needless than that. So why get into it?

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:I did not want to talk about Blurr I wanted to correct Sabr saying that Drift's armor was black when it was not.

So you were just pointing out that someone was wrong for the hell of it? How does that change or contribute anything to the discussion?

You just said you dont want to get into needless arguments, but this whole thing started because you were arguing what colour something was. For nothing. You cant get more needless than that. So why get into it?

Is it not natural to correct someone on a small fact in a fandom that's super obsessed with facts like this?

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:I did not want to talk about Blurr I wanted to correct Sabr saying that Drift's armor was black when it was not.

So you were just pointing out that someone was wrong for the hell of it? How does that change or contribute anything to the discussion?

You just said you dont want to get into needless arguments, but this whole thing started because you were arguing what colour something was. For nothing. You cant get more needless than that. So why get into it?

Is it not natural to correct someone on a small fact in a fandom that's super obsessed with facts like this?

I can see how its natural, sure, but is it needed?

I think we both get where we are coming from now at least. Its all good, man.

Easy, guys, easy. Arguing about arguing is even more pointless than arguing in the first place.

The two pack rumor is interesting. Maybe exclusive decos for the two voyager figures? Maybe more silver on prime to more closely represent how he apparently looks in the movie? I dunno what you'd do to Megs. Either way I can't see them just re-releasing the mainline figures without changing anything just in a two pack.

Bronzewolf wrote:Easy, guys, easy. Arguing about arguing is even more pointless than arguing in the first place.

The two pack rumor is interesting. Maybe exclusive decos for the two voyager figures? Maybe more silver on prime to more closely represent how he apparently looks in the movie? I dunno what you'd do to Megs. Either way I can't see them just re-releasing the mainline figures without changing anything just in a two pack.

Which two pack rumour are you referring to?

We know the movie two pack will be 2 legion figures, thats the only rumour i know about. Is there another?

Bronzewolf wrote:Easy, guys, easy. Arguing about arguing is even more pointless than arguing in the first place.

The two pack rumor is interesting. Maybe exclusive decos for the two voyager figures? Maybe more silver on prime to more closely represent how he apparently looks in the movie? I dunno what you'd do to Megs. Either way I can't see them just re-releasing the mainline figures without changing anything just in a two pack.

It's probably just gonna end up being something dumb like that exclusive 'dirty and grimy' prime and 'bee figures

william-james88 wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:Easy, guys, easy. Arguing about arguing is even more pointless than arguing in the first place.

The two pack rumor is interesting. Maybe exclusive decos for the two voyager figures? Maybe more silver on prime to more closely represent how he apparently looks in the movie? I dunno what you'd do to Megs. Either way I can't see them just re-releasing the mainline figures without changing anything just in a two pack.

Which two pack rumour are you referring to?

We know the movie two pack will be 2 legion figures, thats the only rumour i know about. Is there another?

I was talking about the packaging. People were talking about it being a Optimus/Megatron box set. Platinum edition style.

Here's somethign fun for you to try. Toysrus UK has some blank listings for the voyager class figures of the Transformers The Last Knight toyline and the only way to see that the pages are different from oneanother is the header (the tab on your browser). You can click on the links below and have your cursor hover over the header to see how the listings differ from one another. The listings include Voyager Bumblebee. This further confirms that it was not an error on Amazon Spain, there will actually be a voyager Bumblebee. That can, of course, mean anything from it being a new mold to it simply being the HFTD deluxe Bumblebee packaged in a voyager box and priced as such, which is what Takara has already done three years ago (pictures below).

Here are the listings. Oddly, there is no (blank) listing past Scorn, also further confirming that the mainline will only have 6 voyager figures.

So, for example, the Voyager Class would start at TRUP2459650001, which is a blank listing, but in the header it says "Tf5 Premier Voyager Ast". So that listing is for the assortment in general. It works like this for every assortment.

TRUP2459650005 "Tf5 Premier Voyager Ast Autobot Hound".

TRUP2459650006 "Tf5 Premier Voyager Ast Bumblebee".

TRUP2459650007 "Tf5 Premier Voyager Ast Scorn".

Here is below, the last (and only time) we had a movie line Bumblebee at the voyager price point, just to give you an idea at what can happen.

Bronzewolf wrote:I was talking about the packaging. People were talking about it being a Optimus/Megatron box set. Platinum edition style.

Sorry, I didnt catch that. That would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!

Seaking of great decos though, while i was never gonna get it I cant help but feel dissapointed at how the cool deco seen at Toyfair for Leader Prime totally did not translate to the finished toy.





They ever removed the flame details on his chest.

william-james88 wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:I was talking about the packaging. People were talking about it being a Optimus/Megatron box set. Platinum edition style.

Sorry, I didnt catch that. That would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!

Seaking of great decos though, while i was never gonna get it I cant help but feel dissapointed at how the cool deco seen at Toyfair for Leader Prime totally did not translate to the finished toy.





They ever removed the flame details on his chest.

wouldnt this be a case of aoe leader grimlock too. here they could change it at the last minute.

If I'm being honest, I'd be okay with a deluxe Bee in a voyager package if that means that the Bee will be a better one that it would be if it was a deluxe. For a voyager price, I presume that they'd be doing more with this figure than they would if it was for the regular deluxe price. If the extra money means they can put more paint and attention to detail without being so bound by price, then I'd be totally down for this. The Bee that we saw (not the AOE wave 1 repaint, gross) in the toyfair images looks really good in my opinion and I might even reconsider whether I get that or the Masterpiece one, need more pictures first.

If this is the case that we get better deluxes in voyager packages, then I'd totally be down. They can release what they're releasing in the deluxe lines now in the deluxe lines (which I think is decent, maybe not as good as it once was in my opinion but still, good), and make better deluxes for voyager prices to please the collectors more, and the young ones who realize that man, that later-wave Bee looks so much better than that AOE repaint (more like a depaint am I right? Up top! Sorry, I'll show myself out now).

Here's me hoping that the voyager bee will be based off that wwII design we caught a brief glimpse of in that film roll teaser. Let's be real here the new deluxe mold has pretty much nailed the new design out of the gate, and the masterpiece is unsurprisingly stunning. I'd love to have a lil truck bee though, because as much as I love ludicrous amounts of camaros, I love variety too.

TLK is finally out today at TrU.

Well, the paint of those figures do look nice, but not 1/2 or 1/3 more expensive nice. Bet most of the price increase went to the fancy packaging.

I was about to buy the 1-step TLK Hound for my Hound/Bulkhead collection. But it's 14$CAN! WITH NO PAINT! I've seen dollar stores KOs with more paint than that. Once again, 14$!

Jesus.
Who-love-his-mom-a-bit-too-much.
Christ.


Well, let's see if the voyager Optimus in the "lost-in-space" deco would ever come out. That, I'd buy right away. Along voyager Hound and Megatron. But those last two will only come out this summer. Oh well...

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:Everytime I see that bugatti I immediately think of blurr. Really wonder what the process was in choosing drift as it would've made more sense and probably added more character to such a misfit crew if it were blurr.

That wouldn't have made any more sense since the car that was used in the movie was more black than it was blue.

Plenty of blue throughout and drift hasn't been known to wear blue. Not only that but the bugatti veyron is the fastest car in the world so that'd also make me think of blurr.

ToaLeePrime wrote:Here's me hoping that the voyager bee will be based off that wwII design we caught a brief glimpse of in that film roll teaser. Let's be real here the new deluxe mold has pretty much nailed the new design out of the gate, and the masterpiece is unsurprisingly stunning. I'd love to have a lil truck bee though, because as much as I love ludicrous amounts of camaros, I love variety too.

I think people are sleeping on bumblebee being the new prime to be honest. Just hoping mark Ryan doesn't voice him.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Well, let's see if the voyager Optimus in the "lost-in-space" deco would ever come out. That, I'd buy right away. Along voyager Hound and Megatron. But those last two will only come out this summer. Oh well...

Really, did you see the final deco? It doesnt look as sexy as the first time he was revealed.

He wont come to Canada but he will be out at BBTS and Robot Kingdom so you will be able to buy him there.

Another thing, even if you wanted to buy those one steps, they wouldnt have let you. TRU's cash freezes when they scan those since they hardcoded a street date. I tried. Walmart didnt though so you can buy from them no problem.

And I mentioned before that Voyager Prime didnt have the deco in the right place. Here are some examples. There is this flimsy plastic piece that is a totally diferent colour than the rest of his body to hide the legs in truck mode and the lack of paint on it makes it stand out and not in a good way:

I forget who asked and where but Berserker is a licensed Chevrolet vehicle. The back of the box even has a licence for corvette specifically, and I dont know why. Dont know if the one steps are licenced, didnt check.

william-james88 wrote:Also, stay away from Berserker, that toy is dreadful.

Was... that intentional?

Here's a little something for you guys to think about concerning Voyager Bumblebee: what current size class would the standard Human Alliance toys fit in?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Also, stay away from Berserker, that toy is dreadful.

Was... that intentional?

Here's a little something for you guys to think about concerning Voyager Bumblebee: what size class would the standard Human Alliance toys fit in?

Ah, smart! While they are bigger than voyager, I would still put them as voyager. Using Takara once again as a precedent, their Movie the Best HA Soundwave was sold at the voyager price point.

And yes 100% intentional

TLK wave 1 making its way on to shelves here in the Houston area. Picked up a few turbo changer's and legions from Wal-Mart this morning. They also had those 12" titan changers (prime & bee), and voyagers. Prices weren't as high as i thought they'd be either. One-steppers for $8, legions for $7... happy hunting!

Houstonian Prime wrote:TLK wave 1 making its way on to shelves here in the Houston area. Picked up a few turbo changer's and legions from Wal-Mart this morning. They also had those 12" titan changers (prime & bee), and voyagers. Prices weren't as high as i thought they'd be either. One-steppers for $8, legions for $7... happy hunting!

You bought toys from Michael Meyers?!?
Have a nice day and thank you for shopping at Walmaaaaart

LoL!! I noticed that also.. the store manager is Michael Meyers, creepy...

Via the official Facebook page for Transformers Hong Kong, we have our first spot for the Knight Armor Turbo Changers (featuring Grimlock, Optimus Prime, and Bumblebee) - figures that we have covered previously here. Check it out below!

Pretty good cgi for just a toy commercial anyone think Prime could get that helmet in the final battle or something in the movie?

While I doubt it myself especially for the other characters they clearly already have a "model" for Optimus that could be tweaked for the actual movie Cgi like maybe he get's fully brainwashed or something since that red is the same color as that red "thing" on his left cheek.

Voyager Prime looks really good. Paint looks meh, but I really want a good base for customizing anyway.

Oh btw, is Prime's trailer hole a 5mm peg hole?

The Transformers: The Last Knight toyline is being released worldwide this week and if you are curious to know what is in store if you pick up one of the only two new deluxe molds, Berserker, then I wrote a review with pictures. He is not great, but definitely a step up from Barricade, who was just too small, simple and kibble heavy for my taste. You can read that review here.

Now onto Berserker!

As I said, a definite step up from Barricade in terms of several problems I had. Firstly, he is literally a step up by being a tad bit taller and more in line with what I expect from a deluxe.





Secondly, the deco and paint apps don't leave me wanting that much more. It's not like there are places which badly need paint and nothing seems cheap. I especially like the asymetrical "X" on his chest. It looks like war paint, lending to his more barbarian and predatory design. All his claws (feet and hands) are painted too to distinguish them from the rest of his hands and feet. The silver highlights on his face give him a nice premium feel as well.







Lastly, there is a major improvement over barricade (and other shellformers) in how well the shell folds away. This isn't anything close to the genius of Prime Vehicon, but it is better than TLK Barricade, the AOE Leader Optimus Primes and the movie Sideswipe toys we have gotten in the past. There is a lot of compressing and folding to have as little car parts showing as possible.

Personally though, while it's an improvement over other shellformers, it also becomes the figure's downfall. Since the ROTF line, Takara has improved on its engineering for robots which don't show much of their alt mode. Instead of creating a back pack, the found new techniques that involve either turning the figure inside out (AOE Voyager Hound and Optimus Prime) or fully compressing a backpack (Voyagers AOE Galvatron and TLK Optimus Prime) and minimizing alt mode kibble on the robot. However, here they went the old way which means you have all these overlapping panels all across his back (and protruding above his head) plus some really random looking car details along his arms, like movie Leader Ironhide. Also, the car panels that rest on the back of his legs dont fold flush, which is a bit of a bummer, since it brings further attention to kibble that shouldn't be there.







Oh, speaking of those arm car parts, here's a new complaint: glue is missing. They are "stuck" to the arms due to friction but can drop to the floor at any given instant and will be sure to come off during transformation. Then again, I did complain about them looking random in robot mode so them not being glued means you could remove them no problem for him to look more like the Dreadwind character model. But he probably isn't in the movie anyway (at least not looking like this) so what is the point either way? Moving on, these are not the only parts to come off, the head is really loose and will also come off easily.



Aside from the car parts clashing with the rest of the figure, the robot mode isn't bad at all. Nice articulation and very expressive.



The shellforming nature of the figure does come to bite it in the butt when you start transforming it. He is actually quite simple but because he has more seperate panels than need connecting than any transformer I can remember (even more than Leader Sentinel Prime), it becomes a very frustrating transformation. There is a lot of panel massaging and multiple panels clipping onto one another at once from different parts. So clipping another panel can undo the previous ones. One odd thing I noticed while transforming was that he has a hole under his crotch and it doesn't serve for anything (maybe a stand? but it looks too small). A little distracting.



The shellforming nature means almost none of the robot is visible in car mode and they do succeed here (some robot parts show in the back). You have some panel lines but nothing egregious and if it is transformed correctly, it will all stay together tightly with no gaps. The vehicle appears to look puny at first but it is as long as any other deluxe vehicle. It just looks small because the type of car is usually bigger than a car for a deluxe Transformer. One really cool thing no one has mentioned is how this brings back the pins for the wheels rather than the pressure pegs. He rolls nicely.












In the end, if you were ok with shellformers from the ROTF era, this is pretty much the same thing with a more finicky transformation and parts that fall off. Still, you get a nice looking robot mode and vehicle mode that look nothing like eachother. I personally preffer it to his other new mold wavemate, Barricade, simply because they do a better job with the back pack, deco and don't overly simplify the transformation. However, I still remain unimpressed with this line so far due to its lack of anything new or smart in terms of engineering.

One quick question: what figure does the axe come from?

Once again the vehicle that Berserker turns into was on set briefly.



I only ever saw this on Tfw2005 and I can't find the image anymore and yes this is stuff from TLK filming.

Why would Hasbro make two new molds for Berserker as in the one step changer and the deluxe and both of them have that red X which seems kind of random even this model has it on his chest



Before people go like "He was in the trailer!" No he was not that was Hooligan who turns into a Rusty van and uses the Crowbar model as a base and not the Crankcase model like Berserker does.

Thanks for the review, WJ! After reading through this and watching Optibotimus's review I'm actually considering getting this guy. I feel like gluing the arm panels in and tightening the head shouldn't be a huge issue, and Berserker is just begging to be painted. A lot of silver mixed with black all over him should make all those little details pop nicely. I also actually really like the boxy car parts on him, I'm not a huge fan of the new AoE aesthetic that hides all the characters' car parts. Optimus is still my only must buy, but Berserker is climbing up there a little. Can't wait to pick up a Prime on Monday!

It was definately the predator head con i saw in the trailer. You get a clear slow mo shot of it.

I'd like to see some comparison to his dotm figure.


Also, i find it humorous the voyagers for wave 1 and 2 are the same characters in the same order as aoe. Again, uk will probably skip hound and galvmegatron until the following year, if aat all. Lol. But that's ok, prime is the only one i want.

Our friends over at TFW2005 have been able to find out more information about the glyphs we've been seeing on figures and instructions sheets across the Transformers: The Last Knight toyline, and may have confirmed a retailer exclusive (probably Toys'R'Us again, which is not good news internationally) sub-line for the movie toys: Mission to Cybertron.

The site was able to screencap instructions of a Glyph Decoder, then immediately taken down by Hasbro, then more 'decodable glyphs' appeared on the likes of Skullitron, Nitro and Megatron, and Infernocus and Quintessa. Now, fallen-revenge has found a promotional banner for Mission to Cybertron at a Toys'R'Us store in the US, making the speculation just that little more concrete! Check it out below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub.