Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol

Transformers News: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol

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Thanks to a heads up from Seibertronian Cyberpath, we have word that Snakas Blog has posted several new images, including prototype images of Ironhide and Starscream, as well as Takara's stock images for Sixgun, Aimless, and the Soundwave Spy Patrol.

These prototype images give us a great look at the massive amount of detail the new Siege figures have. The painted figure's details don't pop as much as the prototypes, but that detailing is still there, and looks pretty good.

We also get some nice stock images for the upcoming weaponizer Sixgun, one of Metroplex's little companions, Ravage and Laserbeak, who make up Soundwave's Spy Patrol, and battlemaster Aimless.

These figure are all due out next year, with the Ironhide mold also being used for Ratchet and Starscream being used for Thundercracker, and maybe more if we get more exclusives.

Check out the images below, and let us know what you think of these new pictures below!

Transformers News: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992887)
Posted by william-james88 on November 6th, 2018 @ 8:52pm CST

Not to be a debbie downer but that Six Gun looks terrible in that deco. Its just a sea of white and red and the only weathering is on the feet. He looks ultra cheap.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992889)
Posted by Skritz on November 6th, 2018 @ 9:01pm CST

william-james88 wrote:Not to be a debbie downer but that Six Gun looks terrible in that deco. Its just a sea of white and red and the only weathering is on the feet. He looks ultra cheap.

It's the lighting and stastic pose. It make everything look bland and 'washed out'.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992894)
Posted by william-james88 on November 6th, 2018 @ 9:19pm CST

Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege deluxes Hound, Sideswipe, Cog and Skytread as well as voyagers Optimus Prime and Megatron have all been found at Target. Specifically a Target in Virginia. These were found by Hurleychris07 who posted his finding on the TFW2005 boards. The price was not disclosed in the sighting.

If you already have these toys, please let us know your thoughts on them and if you find them, be sure to let the community know through your local sightings threads or the sightings section. And if you are unsure about purchasing them, we have lots of Seibertron content coming soon regarding these new toys.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992901)
Posted by Kuraiholy on November 6th, 2018 @ 9:41pm CST

Don't forget the codes for Brickseek if you want to check it.

• Battle Master Firedrive
DPCI: 087-16-4265
UPC: 630509754762
• Battle Master Lionizer
DPCI: 087-16-4269
UPC: 630509754755
• Battle Master Blowpipe
DPCI: 087-16-6158
UPC: 630509754748

• Micromaster Airstrike Patrol
DPCI: 087-16-4276
UPC: 630509754816
• Micromaster Racecar Patrol
DPCI: 087-16-4277
UPC: 630509754823
• Micromaster Battle Patrol
DPCI: 087-16-4275
UPC: 630509754830

• Deluxe Sideswipe
DPCI: 087-16-9981
UPC: 630509754601
• Deluxe Skytread
DPCI: 087-16-8070
UPC: 630509754618
• Deluxe Cog
DPCI: 087-16-7213
UPC: 630509754625
• Deluxe Hound
DPCI: 087-16-4289
UPC: 630509754632

• Voyager Optimus
DPCI: 087-16-8335
UPC: 630509754885
• Voyager Megatron
DPCI: 087-16-4283
UPC: 630509754892

• Leader Shockwave
DPCI: 087-16-4274
UPC: 630509747399
• Leader Ultra Magnus
DPCI: 087-16-4273
UPC: 630509747405

Taken from https://tformers.com/transformers-siege ... /news.html

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992905)
Posted by Sunstar on November 6th, 2018 @ 10:23pm CST

Starscream looks pretty sick! I want that figure in my collection. I do enjoy the tetra jet variation of him.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992910)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 6th, 2018 @ 11:26pm CST

william-james88 wrote:Not to be a debbie downer but that Six Gun looks terrible in that deco. Its just a sea of white and red and the only weathering is on the feet. He looks ultra cheap.

It's weirder still that Sixgun has any battle damage at all. I don't think Cog or Brunt have such, do they? I thought the Weaponizers and Flywheels/Skytread were exempt from the whole "battle weathered" paint apps thing.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992912)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on November 6th, 2018 @ 11:44pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Not to be a debbie downer but that Six Gun looks terrible in that deco. Its just a sea of white and red and the only weathering is on the feet. He looks ultra cheap.

It's weirder still that Sixgun has any battle damage at all. I don't think Cog or Brunt have such, do they? I thought the Weaponizers and Flywheels/Skytread were exempt from the whole "battle weathered" paint apps thing.

Brunt has battle damage on his hands/arms which become his front treads. The only battle damage I can see on Cog looking at his stock photos is some barely noticeable white spots on his arms that aren't pins, but I can't really tell if that's intentional or not because of how hard to see it is. I can only assume it is.

EDIT: Baltmatrix has put up a review for Skytread, and the notion of him not having battle damage can now be put to rest:

Skytread Treads.JPG

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992924)
Posted by Cyberpath on November 7th, 2018 @ 1:57am CST

Some more pix --

Source: https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810124979/

Source: https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810125013

And for fun, computer rendering vs stock photos --

Some parts are painted differently, final product has more red & black --

Also, these are all up for pre-order on HLJ, Ami Ami & Anime Export. I think I'm going to skip to batch though.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992933)
Posted by Cyberpath on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:16am CST

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992939)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:43am CST

Well those pictures explain where Six-Gun's head disappeared to in the renders of his non-robot modes: the renders had his head change color from red to white when he transformed. That explains a lot.

Also that one Sideswipe/Six-Gun pic makes me wonder how hard it would be to use Six-Gun and possibly Cog as well to make a giant Weaponizer gun-hand, seeing that those four guns on his back section can be positioned differently. That picture has an almost complete gun-hand by itself, it just needs a thumb.

...I don't know why Six-Gun immediately became my most anticipated figure of this line, but I'm okay with the fact that he did.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992955)
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2018 @ 7:16am CST

Oh weaponizers. What fun we will have... :-D

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992958)
Posted by Cobotron on November 7th, 2018 @ 7:51am CST

Oh! Giant Hulk hand is AWESOME! :shock:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992959)
Posted by Jazzicus Maximus on November 7th, 2018 @ 7:52am CST

Skytread looks amazing - can't wait to pick it up, hopefully sooner than later!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992969)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 7th, 2018 @ 8:42am CST

Cyberpath wrote:
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This might become the reason I end up picking up the Megatron. I was already on the fence about it, but the thought of pulling this off might just be enough to make me pull the trigger on getting Megatron

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992981)
Posted by Deadput on November 7th, 2018 @ 9:19am CST

Skritz wrote:Oh weaponizers. What fun we will have...

Wonder if it could be a good alt hand for a combiner, like a power hand or something. (Really it could be an excuse to increase the amount of characters in a combiner)

"I'll form the torso and head!"
"We'll form the arms!"
"We'll form the legs!"
"I'll form the torso armor!"
"I'll form the gun!"
"I'll form the hand!...what?"

(That's just going by the standard CW combining system, in fiction you could get even more ridiculous, like the combiner also being a head master.)

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992991)
Posted by Evil Eye on November 7th, 2018 @ 9:55am CST

I just noticed, Sixgun's "power fist" mode has booster nozzles on it. Seems Sixgun's pulling a Mazinger Z and has a ROCKET PUNCH mode, which is absolutely slaggin' awesome.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992993)
Posted by william-james88 on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:01am CST

But is it still a fist if there is no thumb?

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992994)
Posted by Evil Eye on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:03am CST

I THINK there's a thumb, albeit it's pretty stumpy and hard to make out due to all the red plastic.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1992995)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:08am CST

I guess the bright red is a better match to Metroplex? A little disappointed with Sixgun now, but it's still worth picking up.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993000)
Posted by o.supreme on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:23am CST

Black Hat wrote:I THINK there's a thumb, albeit it's pretty stumpy and hard to make out due to all the red plastic.

Hey stop making fun of Megan Fox...she's pretty sensitive about that

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993001)
Posted by Deadput on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:31am CST

o.supreme wrote:
Black Hat wrote:I THINK there's a thumb, albeit it's pretty stumpy and hard to make out due to all the red plastic.

Hey stop making fun of Megan Fox...she's pretty sensitive about that

I'm still trying to figure out what the joke is.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993006)
Posted by Evil Eye on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:40am CST

o.supreme wrote:
Black Hat wrote:I THINK there's a thumb, albeit it's pretty stumpy and hard to make out due to all the red plastic.

Hey stop making fun of Megan Fox...she's pretty sensitive about that

That was cruel. :lol:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993007)
Posted by o.supreme on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:43am CST

Deadput wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what the joke is.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993009)
Posted by Deadput on November 7th, 2018 @ 11:05am CST

o.supreme wrote:
Deadput wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what the joke is.

I uh, oh I see.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993011)
Posted by Emerje on November 7th, 2018 @ 11:32am CST

Huh, Sideswipe's gun tip/missile is exactly the same as Sixgun's. That's some random parts sharing.

Also looking forward to combining Sixgun, Cog, and Brunt into one big Weaponizer bot.

Emerje

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993016)
Posted by Cobotron on November 7th, 2018 @ 12:04pm CST

william-james88 wrote:But is it still a fist if there is no thumb?

You don't need a thumb to punch a guy. :lol:

Edit: The thingy that might be the thumb looks like it has a 5mil peg. Maybe you can stick another part on there to make a thumb? Sideswipe's rocket launcher part?

Good eye, Emerje! That is rando, but cool.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993017)
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 12:37pm CST

Do you feel under SIEGE from all of the news about Transformers War for Cybertron SIEGE toy line? "Not yet" you say? How about even more in-hand pictures of the just released War for Cybertron toys!

This time around, we've got some comparison pictures of SIEGE Battle Masters WFC-S1 Firedrive, WFC-S2 Lionizer, and WFC-S3 Blowpipe alongside their other versions and with other toys from this line. Each Battle Master comes with "fire blasts" which are soft PVC attachments which simulate blast effects that can attach to the Battle Masters and other SIEGE figures.

If you missed the news this past weekend, War for Cybertron SIEGE Battle Masters were already found at retail.

Don't forget to check out our new galleries of War for Cybertron SIEGE Voyager Class Optimus Prime and Megatron.

WFC-S3 Blowpipe

WFC-S1 Firedrive

WFC-S2 Lionizer

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993023)
Posted by dragons on November 7th, 2018 @ 1:39pm CST

There mistransformed it’s most popular word that is comment in toy topic may as well add to it mistransformed toy it’s crime

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993027)
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 1:46pm CST

dragons wrote:There mistransformed it’s most popular word that is comment in toy topic may as well add to it mistransformed toy it’s crime

Who is mistransformed?

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993028)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2018 @ 1:59pm CST

Seiberton, since you've done those Battle Master comparison pics, do you have a preference between the Takara Legends take on the G1 Targetmasters or the newer Siege renditions of the same characters?

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993030)
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:02pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:Seiberton, since you've done those Battle Master comparison pics, do you have a preference between the Takara Legends take on the G1 Targetmasters or the newer Siege renditions of the same characters?

I prefer the Takara Legends take on the G1 Targetmasters.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993031)
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:02pm CST

Do you feel under SIEGE from all of the news about Transformers War for Cybertron SIEGE toy line? "Not yet" you say? How about even more in-hand pictures of the just released War for Cybertron toys!

This time around, we've got some comparison pictures of SIEGE Micromasters WFC-S4 Roadhandler and Swindler, WFC-S5 Storm Cloud and Visper, and WFC-S6 Topshot and Flak alongside their other versions and with other toys from this line. Each Micromaster is a modern take on their G1 Micromaster versions but also can now combine into a weapon which larger Transformers action figures can utilize.

If you missed the news this past weekend, War for Cybertron SIEGE Battle Masters were already found at Target stores. You can find the DPCI codes in that article as well.

Don't forget to check out our in-hand comparison pics of SIEGE Battle Masters as well as our new galleries of War for Cybertron SIEGE Voyager Class Optimus Prime and Megatron.

WFC-S4 Roadhandler and Swindler

WFC-S5 Storm Cloud and Visper

WFC-S6 Topshot and Flak

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993035)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:15pm CST

Seibertron wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Seiberton, since you've done those Battle Master comparison pics, do you have a preference between the Takara Legends take on the G1 Targetmasters or the newer Siege renditions of the same characters?

I prefer the Takara Legends take on the G1 Targetmasters.

I don't have any of the Siege ones in hand, but I have to agree just from seeing the pictures alone. I'll be sticking with my Legends Targetmasters for sure. I'll be happy to pick up some of the "new" Siege Battle Masters, like Lionizer and Pteraxadon, but I also don't want to miss out on the blast and laser fire effects that only come with the only the Battle Master class. Damn, Hasbro has really made it hard NOT to double dip in this case.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993036)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:15pm CST

See I prefer these new guys to the takara ones but that's just me

also I just can't see the Autobot car Micromasters combined form as a gun, even with the plastic effect part.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993039)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:20pm CST

Seibertron, any chance we can see some of these new Siege Micro Masters along with some of the earlier Micromaster homages as Targetmasters partners from the Trilling 30 Legends line up of figures, the little "triple changing" guys that came with Swerve, Tailgate, Cosmos, and the like? I'm sure they're going to be dwarfed by the new Siege figures, but it would be interesting to see just how big the size disparity will be.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993040)
Posted by PerfectVision on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:24pm CST

In my collection,this Sideswipe is is a variante of Knockout BEAST HUNTERS or Crockout,he may look anorexique on the side,the secret is to put his weapon behind,some people rotate the jaw up,i prefer it down,i have put some yellow ont the circling part of his chest and paint in black his shoulders and hands.

This variante into my collection?Okay,but then,he is even more similar to hound,and i feel like i must choose beetween two clones.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993041)
Posted by Flashwave on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:26pm CST

These pics are greatm burt really highlight my issues with the Targetmasters of nboth lines. I always felt the Tkara figures were too big and clunky for the Deluxes to wield. Yes, I know the G1 Targetmasters were big boxes too, but there's a scaling difference. Nicely posable, and look better in the hands of a Voyager (Pinpointer in Cloud Ironhide as Croshairs) but too overkill for a smaller transformer. The Siege Targetmasters profile better in gun modes, but good god those colors are bright. It makes me feel like Hasbro hired an Easter Bunny to paint these, and in a toyline that is supposed to be Muted and battle damaged, pastel blue sticks out like a sore thumb. Blowpipe doesnt look like a good nmatch to Triggerhappy

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993042)
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:27pm CST

ZeroWolf wrote:See I prefer these new guys to the takara ones but that's just me also I just can't see the Autobot car Micromasters combined form as a gun, even with the plastic effect part.

I can't really see it either. It basically looks like a car on top of a car. In addition, they don't seem to hold together very well either, nor does the Battle Patrol, unless I'm doing something wrong. By comparison, the Air Strike Patrol snaps together very well.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993043)
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:28pm CST

Flashwave wrote:but good god those colors are bright. It makes me feel like Hasbro hired an Easter Bunny to paint these, and in a toyline that is supposed to be Muted and battle damaged, pastel blue sticks out like a sore thumb. Blowpipe doesnt look like a good nmatch to Triggerhappy

Yah the colors are off to me as well. Especially Firedrive, who is basically white now instead of gray or silver.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993044)
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:29pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:Seibertron, any chance we can see some of these new Siege Micro Masters along with some of the earlier Micromaster homages as Targetmasters partners from the Trilling 30 Legends line up of figures?

I'll see what I can do for you!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993047)
Posted by autobot00 on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:47pm CST

its kind of disappointing that the target masters look bigger than the legends counterpart and lose the articulation in the legs. hasbro was all about more articulation for this line and they go and take pre-existing tooling and change it to remove articulation. a shame because i think it would have been awesome to have fully articulate target masters. that would, IMO, made these versions better if they retained the knee and added elbows.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993048)
Posted by Cobotron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:51pm CST

But they're not retools of the Legends Target Masters. They're completely new sculpts/molds.

Great galleries Seibs! I'm excited for all these little accessory bots!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993051)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:58pm CST

Swindler's no longer a DeLorean. Another joke lost... On the bright side, hello there Blackjack!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993056)
Posted by william-james88 on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:25pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Swindler's no longer a DeLorean. Another joke lost... On the bright side, hello there Blackjack!

What joke?

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993057)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:26pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Swindler's no longer a DeLorean. Another joke lost... On the bright side, hello there Blackjack!

What joke?

Look up DeLorean and especially its founder with his... dubious practices.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993058)
Posted by Evil Eye on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:31pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Swindler's no longer a DeLorean. Another joke lost... On the bright side, hello there Blackjack!

What joke?

Look up DeLorean and especially its founder.

Fun fact: The DeLorean is actually a very well-designed car. The problem was that they couldn't get the engine they wanted for it, and as such it was woefully underpowered when it went into production. Someone replaced the engine in one and it was apparently a dream to drive.

Even more ironically, Mr. DeLorean was actually more the Swindled than a Swindler; his company was close to bankruptcy and he got unwittingly roped into a drug sting operation (being told he could save his company). As it happens he won the trial on grounds of entrapment, but his reputation was wrecked and the company fell apart.

Poor, poor Mr. DeLorean.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993063)
Posted by autobot00 on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:51pm CST

Cobotron wrote:But they're not retools of the Legends Target Masters. They're completely new sculpts/molds.

they do look very similar in design so maybe not retools exactly, but the point is just that, they are new molds (almost up-scaling of the legends design) and that money and time could have been better spent taking the legends mold and giving it more articulation.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993064)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:54pm CST

autobot00 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:But they're not retools of the Legends Target Masters. They're completely new sculpts/molds.

they do look very similar in design so maybe not retools exactly, but the point is just that, they are new molds (almost up-scaling of the legends design) and that money and time could have been better spent taking the legends mold and giving it more articulation.

Maybe the Legends Targetmaster molds didn't conform to Hasbro's toy standards. Like, if they had too many tiny pieces that small children could choke on or something.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Prototype Images for Ironhide and Starscream, Takara Stock Images for Sixgun, Aimless, Spy Patrol (1993065)
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:57pm CST

Hasbro will keep being 'cheap' as long as they operate on the 'action figures at retail' model, which I understand they still do because the brand apparently still sell to kids. People seem to always forget Takara doesn't abide by things such as a 'price point' because they used sell their figures not in waves in stores mom and pops-types go to but rather purely as collector stuff.

In other words, Takara in their Legends day just sold whatever the hell they wanted and it was aimed at fanboys and collectors in the same kind of market things like S.H. Figurarts and Revoltech were. Hasbro meanwhile still intend to stick to a model which is based off 1980 toy selling because it's still (kind of) working.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:59pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
autobot00 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:But they're not retools of the Legends Target Masters. They're completely new sculpts/molds.

they do look very similar in design so maybe not retools exactly, but the point is just that, they are new molds (almost up-scaling of the legends design) and that money and time could have been better spent taking the legends mold and giving it more articulation.
Maybe the Legends Targetmaster molds didn't conform to Hasbro's toy standards. Like, if they had too many tiny pieces that small children could choke on or something.

Or more likely: they were too expensive to produce for their size, especially with the metal pins.

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