Submit News Contact Us Translate Sign in Join

Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math"

Transformers News: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math"

Wednesday, November 16th, 2011 4:43PM CST

Categories: Media, Podcast, Site News
Posted by: Razorclaw0000   Views: 91,186

Topic Options: View Discussion · Sign in or Join to reply

We're back with another all new episode of the Seibertron.com Twincast/Podcast, featuring Counterpunch, Jon3.0, Tigertracks, and Razorclaw. Listen as we disseminate our opinions on matters most Prime. As always, you can obtain the podcast by visiting the podcast download area or directly from iTunes.

First up, we give you some wild speculation, hopes, and dreams for the toys of BotCon 2012, after the recent reveal:

Image

Next, we discuss the frustration many fans are feeling towards the "First Edition" Transformers Prime figures:

Image

While on the topic of exclusivity, we discuss the Evac character being introduced at Transformers: The Ride, opening in Universal Studios Singapore:

Image

Before moving on to pleasant matters, we get a cold, hard analysis from Counterpunch on which Third Party Devastator homage he'll be buying:

Image

VS

Image

Finally, we wrap up the show with some listener questions and bragging rights!


Seibertron.com is your ultimate Transformers resource!
Search Got Transformers News? Let us know here!
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313451)
Posted by It Is Him on November 16th, 2011 @ 5:49pm CST
Since my laptop gave up the ghost, I require assistance in listening to this podcast. That means that some lucky user gets to dial my phone number, crank up the volume on their PC, and play the podcast through a telephone receiver, where I will be engrossed in Transformers for the next three hours, racking up plan minutes.

Let me remind all of you, that this is a privilege and an honor! Helping me should be its own intrinsic reward. I will be opening my user inbox to applications within the evening.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313481)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 16th, 2011 @ 7:17pm CST
Cybertron Blurr (with Armada Blurr's head) for Prowl.

Movie Stockade for X-Brawn (he wouldn't even need a new head, and his altmode isn't an exact match for the real car it was based on, so it isn't a licensed vehicle toy, right?).


Since you really like RiD, Counterpunch, this is for you. ;)



Yes. That is so true! Prime Bulkhead is a short guy, while Animated Bulkhead is huge. Animation model-wise, that is. :D

You're right. Deluxe Arcee's too big. But Cyberverse Legion's too small (in Robot Mode). It would be nice if they were to make a Cyberverse Commander Arcee as well.


I salute you for your show-accuracy views, CP. :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE:


Okay, "ihaterazorclaw@cybertron.com.". Got it. ;)^ :lol:
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313505)
Posted by trence5 on November 16th, 2011 @ 8:38pm CST
I'm listing to the podcast now... Hey I must have missed it but I don't remember seeing Peaugh compare Classics Optimus to Voyager Optimus from TF: Prime show
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313508)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 16th, 2011 @ 8:51pm CST
trence5 wrote:I'm listing to the podcast now... Hey I must have missed it but I don't remember seeing Peaugh compare Classics Optimus to Voyager Optimus from TF: Prime show
Now that you mention it, I don't remember that either. :???:
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313525)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 16th, 2011 @ 9:36pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
trence5 wrote:I'm listing to the podcast now... Hey I must have missed it but I don't remember seeing Peaugh compare Classics Optimus to Voyager Optimus from TF: Prime show
Now that you mention it, I don't remember that either. :???:



He did so via twitter.

EDIT: Here you go. Image
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313532)
Posted by Rated X on November 16th, 2011 @ 10:10pm CST
It Is Him wrote:Since my laptop gave up the ghost, I require assistance in listening to this podcast. That means that some lucky user gets to dial my phone number, crank up the volume on their PC, and play the podcast through a telephone receiver, where I will be engrossed in Transformers for the next three hours, racking up plan minutes.

Let me remind all of you, that this is a privilege and an honor! Helping me should be its own intrinsic reward. I will be opening my user inbox to applications within the evening.



I heard Best Buy got some great deals on laptops for Black Friday ! ;)
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313539)
Posted by trence5 on November 16th, 2011 @ 10:34pm CST
amcgrath929 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
trence5 wrote:I'm listing to the podcast now... Hey I must have missed it but I don't remember seeing Peaugh compare Classics Optimus to Voyager Optimus from TF: Prime show
Now that you mention it, I don't remember that either. :???:



He did so via twitter.

EDIT: Here you go. Image


Thank you!!
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313556)
Posted by Trikeboy on November 16th, 2011 @ 11:57pm CST
trence5 wrote:
amcgrath929 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
trence5 wrote:I'm listing to the podcast now... Hey I must have missed it but I don't remember seeing Peaugh compare Classics Optimus to Voyager Optimus from TF: Prime show
Now that you mention it, I don't remember that either. :???:



He did so via twitter.

EDIT: Here you go. Image


Thank you!!


Wow, he's bigger than I thought he would be, that's great. Also, good size on Bulkhead too.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313661)
Posted by Counterpunch on November 17th, 2011 @ 7:57am CST
Thinking ahead by two episodes...

Would you all like to do a show where you can call into us?
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313663)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 17th, 2011 @ 7:59am CST
Counterpunch wrote:Thinking ahead by two episodes...

Would you all like to do a show where you can call into us?
That would be awesome! 8)

The only downside would be everyone of us who calls in would probably feel that we didn't have enough to time to say all that we'd want to say. :-|
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313687)
Posted by Counterpunch on November 17th, 2011 @ 9:27am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:Thinking ahead by two episodes...

Would you all like to do a show where you can call into us?
That would be awesome! 8)

The only downside would be everyone of us who calls in would probably feel that we didn't have enough to time to say all that we'd want to say. :-|


That's the breaks homie! ;)

You ever listen to when I try and cut people off to move things on...our boys on the show don't feel like they get to say all they want to say. >:oP
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313689)
Posted by joevill on November 17th, 2011 @ 9:28am CST
It's not going to be RID Scourge, it will be Shattered Glass G2 Redux Optimus Prime!! :lol:
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313700)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 17th, 2011 @ 9:54am CST
joevill wrote:It's not going to be RID Scourge, it will be Shattered Glass G2 Redux Optimus Prime!! :lol:
Oh. :HALUC: Now, there's an idea!

Though, I don't think he's "an enemy thought defeated." ;)
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313717)
Posted by Counterpunch on November 17th, 2011 @ 11:04am CST
Don't forget to email Razorclaw!
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313718)
Posted by joevill on November 17th, 2011 @ 11:07am CST
Counterpunch wrote:Don't forget to email Razorclaw!



ihaterazorclaw@seibertron right?
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313722)
Posted by Counterpunch on November 17th, 2011 @ 11:16am CST
yup
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313725)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on November 17th, 2011 @ 11:20am CST
BRING IT
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313726)
Posted by joevill on November 17th, 2011 @ 11:23am CST
Razorclaw0000 wrote:BRING IT

It will be BROUGHT and in the end, you will be broke ! :CON:
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313730)
Posted by Pig on November 17th, 2011 @ 11:33am CST
I only listened because I wanted to hear their cross examination of the 3rd party Devastators. It turns out they're basing their opinions on the photos everyone has seen. This isn't a comparison of the figures in-hand. So anything they say is subjective babble.

Hearing Mike's thoughts on the 3rd party Devastators makes me never want to hear his opinion on collecting ever again. He projects so much wish-list fanboy expectation bullshit that it hurts to listen to him.

Bob... Thanks for wasting my time hearing you be a little bitch who isn't going to buy either set. Great info bro.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313734)
Posted by It Is Him on November 17th, 2011 @ 11:43am CST
Pig wrote:blah blah blah.


Image

Rated X wrote:I heard Best Buy got some great deals on laptops for Black Friday ! ;)


Good idea! Though I prefer to be at Wal-mart for the PCC deal. :lol:
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313736)
Posted by Counterpunch on November 17th, 2011 @ 11:52am CST
Pig wrote:I only listened because I wanted to hear their cross examination of the 3rd party Devastators. It turns out they're basing their opinions on the photos everyone has seen. This isn't a comparison of the figures in-hand. So anything they say is subjective babble.

Hearing Mike's thoughts on the 3rd party Devastators makes me never want to hear his opinion on collecting ever again. He projects so much wish-list fanboy expectation bullshit that it hurts to listen to him.

Bob... Thanks for wasting my time hearing you be a little bitch who isn't going to buy either set. Great info bro.


lol

Keep it coming. I'm completely serious too.

Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1313753)
Posted by Tigertrack on November 17th, 2011 @ 12:32pm CST
Pig wrote:I only listened because I wanted to hear their cross examination of the 3rd party Devastators. It turns out they're basing their opinions on the photos everyone has seen. This isn't a comparison of the figures in-hand. So anything they say is subjective babble.

Hearing Mike's thoughts on the 3rd party Devastators makes me never want to hear his opinion on collecting ever again. He projects so much wish-list fanboy expectation bullshit that it hurts to listen to him.

Bob... Thanks for wasting my time hearing you be a little bitch who isn't going to buy either set. Great info bro.


Unfortunately, when we talk about things to be released it is a bunch of subjective sharing. I think everybody has wants and desires for what will happen with certain toys when they are released. When it's a 3rd party company who caters only to fans, I am sure they are trying to get every trick in there that will make somebody want them. So for Mike to make a list of what he wants to see in a perfect version, well, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

We all wanted to shake Bob a little when he said he wouldn't even try a 3rd party Devi, but Bob collects just about every official release out there HASBRO and TAKARA, so I think one can offer him a bit of a break for not wanting to buy all the 3rd party stuff on top of it. Honestly, Devastator is not my favorite combiner, and I would love for someone(s) else to be tackled-- take your pick!

Pig, I know you haven't been around much, or listened to any other podcasts because you should know that it is a bunch of guys BS-ing on TF topics of interest, and not an audio review of our current figs or soon to be released figs. It's not what everyone wants, but hey, we're not paid, we're not official, and we are not awarded things from companies early to try to sell them to the public later on.

Thanks for listening. Sorry it's not what you wanted it to be.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314126)
Posted by Kibble on November 18th, 2011 @ 12:13pm CST
Pig wrote:I only listened because I wanted to hear their cross examination of the 3rd party Devastators. It turns out they're basing their opinions on the photos everyone has seen. This isn't a comparison of the figures in-hand. So anything they say is subjective babble.

Hearing Mike's thoughts on the 3rd party Devastators makes me never want to hear his opinion on collecting ever again. He projects so much wish-list fanboy expectation bullshit that it hurts to listen to him.

Bob... Thanks for wasting my time hearing you be a little bitch who isn't going to buy either set. Great info bro.


Hope this was also sent to Razorclaw's email cuz I think it has a shot at winning the contest. :lol: Don't agree with any of it, but it's pretty hilarious nonetheless!

Now you guys quit jackin' around and get your hands on the Dev prototypes already...cuz doesn't everyone have access to not just one, but both? I am disappoint! ;)
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314135)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on November 18th, 2011 @ 12:33pm CST
Kibble wrote:I am disappoint! ;)


I think we are all disappoint.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314147)
Posted by Tigertrack on November 18th, 2011 @ 1:32pm CST
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Kibble wrote:I am disappoint! ;)


I think we are all disappoint.


I kno I iz.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314337)
Posted by dubg406 on November 18th, 2011 @ 11:35pm CST
All I have to say is, love the Podcast. I re-listen to them until a new Podcast comes out. I enjoy hearing all of your opinions, because that's what the Podcast is mainly about.....your opinion.
Keep up the good work. You guys crack me the F up.
Oh, and got my hands on a Transformers: Prime Bumblebee in AZ. Awesome.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314495)
Posted by Geekee1 on November 19th, 2011 @ 1:52pm CST
joevill wrote:
Razorclaw0000 wrote:BRING IT

It will be BROUGHT and in the end, you will be broke ! :CON:


With the way that he buys shit it won't be long! (I know you meant it in a different way, shut up)
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314498)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on November 19th, 2011 @ 2:12pm CST
Counterpunch wrote:Thinking ahead by two episodes...

Would you all like to do a show where you can call into us?


Alright Counterpunch here is my idea for whose who don't call in Put up a live Twitter feed (like Optibotimus or Peaugh) when you do that episode I'll pitch in and join twitter for that if you agree.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314714)
Posted by Optimusfan79 on November 20th, 2011 @ 8:45am CST
I listened to the podcast & Counterpunch was inaccurate with his statement about maketoy Giant not being cartoon accurate & just being closer to how the toy looked. Maketoy's is way more accurate than the TFC, the only thing TFC's has over Maketoy is the size. If you go back & look TFC's has a lot of the red detailing on their head & it was only their visor's & here/there on their chest. So far Maketoy's doesn't have that & more then likely won't, 2nd in the cartoon you were able to see the treads of Bonecrusher & Scavenger when they merged but TFC took that away, 3rd the head on TFC isn't cartoon or toy accurate especially once again with all the red highlights in & on the head only red he had was his eyes. If you go with merged size & the fact Longhaul does look better, the scoop on the Scavenger looks better in robot mode but Maketoy has them beat in the combined mode especially the head. They have the head looking just like the show & the toy it's just they are debating if they should go visor or regular eyes. TFC's is way too pricey for a extra 2-3 more inches in combined mode & a red gun option along with all the defects the toys have had. So no both are nice but Maketoys Devy is way better all the way around than TFC's in every aspect. One more thing if u wanna have Devy standing way over Superion & Bruticus that most of us have then TFC's is fine to but if you are trying to have more in scale toys with those 2 the Maketoys is the way to go. So I'll be lookin forward to hearing your inaccurate comment corrected by the next podcast thx.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314834)
Posted by Counterpunch on November 20th, 2011 @ 5:50pm CST
Optimusfan79 wrote:I listened to the podcast & Counterpunch was inaccurate with his statement about maketoy Giant not being cartoon accurate & just being closer to how the toy looked. Maketoy's is way more accurate than the TFC, the only thing TFC's has over Maketoy is the size. If you go back & look TFC's has a lot of the red detailing on their head & it was only their visor's & here/there on their chest. So far Maketoy's doesn't have that & more then likely won't, 2nd in the cartoon you were able to see the treads of Bonecrusher & Scavenger when they merged but TFC took that away, 3rd the head on TFC isn't cartoon or toy accurate especially once again with all the red highlights in & on the head only red he had was his eyes. If you go with merged size & the fact Longhaul does look better, the scoop on the Scavenger looks better in robot mode but Maketoy has them beat in the combined mode especially the head. They have the head looking just like the show & the toy it's just they are debating if they should go visor or regular eyes. TFC's is way too pricey for a extra 2-3 more inches in combined mode & a red gun option along with all the defects the toys have had. So no both are nice but Maketoys Devy is way better all the way around than TFC's in every aspect. One more thing if u wanna have Devy standing way over Superion & Bruticus that most of us have then TFC's is fine to but if you are trying to have more in scale toys with those 2 the Maketoys is the way to go. So I'll be lookin forward to hearing your inaccurate comment corrected by the next podcast thx.


I stand by what I said. >:oP
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314850)
Posted by Optimusfan79 on November 20th, 2011 @ 6:27pm CST
Counterpunch wrote:
Optimusfan79 wrote:I listened to the podcast & Counterpunch was inaccurate with his statement about maketoy Giant not being cartoon accurate & just being closer to how the toy looked. Maketoy's is way more accurate than the TFC, the only thing TFC's has over Maketoy is the size. If you go back & look TFC's has a lot of the red detailing on their head & it was only their visor's & here/there on their chest. So far Maketoy's doesn't have that & more then likely won't, 2nd in the cartoon you were able to see the treads of Bonecrusher & Scavenger when they merged but TFC took that away, 3rd the head on TFC isn't cartoon or toy accurate especially once again with all the red highlights in & on the head only red he had was his eyes. If you go with merged size & the fact Longhaul does look better, the scoop on the Scavenger looks better in robot mode but Maketoy has them beat in the combined mode especially the head. They have the head looking just like the show & the toy it's just they are debating if they should go visor or regular eyes. TFC's is way too pricey for a extra 2-3 more inches in combined mode & a red gun option along with all the defects the toys have had. So no both are nice but Maketoys Devy is way better all the way around than TFC's in every aspect. One more thing if u wanna have Devy standing way over Superion & Bruticus that most of us have then TFC's is fine to but if you are trying to have more in scale toys with those 2 the Maketoys is the way to go. So I'll be lookin forward to hearing your inaccurate comment corrected by the next podcast thx.


I stand by what I said. >:oP


That's fine but try to be more accurate with your statements you like TFC's better fine but to put out bogus inaccurate statements cmon dude at least be legit. >:oP
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314865)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 20th, 2011 @ 7:08pm CST
I feel like this argument is the Twilight of Transformers. I'm team Edward, whichever one that is.


EDIT: In all seriousness, I think TFC is trying to capture this Devastator and doing so very well.Image
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314898)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 20th, 2011 @ 9:13pm CST
Where did CP's post go?

I'm downloading this episode now on my Mac so I can finally give it a listen.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1314964)
Posted by Optimusfan79 on November 21st, 2011 @ 2:06am CST
amcgrath929 wrote:I feel like this argument is the Twilight of Transformers. I'm team Edward, whichever one that is.


EDIT: In all seriousness, I think TFC is trying to capture this Devastator and doing so very well.Image


I agree but that one isn't g1 or cartoon accurate anyone can see that, but its cool though. It's a great concept or modern adoptation of him that is cool. All I'm sayin is ppl are intitled to like whichever one but dont downplay the other one with inaccurate statements.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1315587)
Posted by TulioDude on November 22nd, 2011 @ 12:37pm CST
Would you guys use the Prime toys in yours Classics collection?
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1315724)
Posted by Tigertrack on November 22nd, 2011 @ 8:20pm CST
TulioDude wrote:Would you guys use the Prime toys in yours Classics collection?


Not me. Kind of like Animated, a great line in its own it looks like, but at this time, not having any but Arcee and BBee, NYCC Exclusives, I can't say entirely, but based on what I have seen, nope.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #32 "Cold Math" (1315768)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on November 23rd, 2011 @ 12:11am CST
tigertracks 24 wrote:
TulioDude wrote:Would you guys use the Prime toys in yours Classics collection?


Not me. Kind of like Animated, a great line in its own it looks like, but at this time, not having any but Arcee and BBee, NYCC Exclusives, I can't say entirely, but based on what I have seen, nope.


I agree. This Prime line looks fantastic but it just doesn't fit in with the Classics figures. Although, I will try Bulkhead once I get him in hand.
Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #102 - Hidden Mickeys
Twincast / Podcast #102:
"Hidden Mickeys"
MP3 · iTunes · RSS · View · Discuss · Ask
Posted: Sunday, October 5th, 2014