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Shadowman wrote:

Bluebullet wrote:But BM Megs wasn't the Decepticon Megs, therefore different characters. Also, Transformers is aimed at kids. Movie "Megatron" defacing a body by tearing open a Transformers chest and eating their "heart" or "soul" isn't Megatron at all and was added for no reason. Plus a ton of parents won't let their kids buy or watch Transformers after that R performance. If you claim the movie "megatron"'s act of violent R-rated vamirism is pulled directly from any Transformers series or storyline, let alone any version of Megatron, then you need to re-watch every TV show and re-read every comic.

In Armada, Wheeljack shot Hot Shot at point blank range.

In Rebirth, Daniel got seriously effed up by one of the Decepticons, and almost died.

In RiD, Galvatron tried to kill every child on the planet.

And you're mad because Megatron is doing spark extraction?

Point blank isn't that bad. A shot anywhere in Transformers is fine. Daniel wasn't brutally mauled. I haven't been able to find all of the RID episodes, but I'm sure he didn't plan to rip out their hearts and eat them. Movie "Megatron" isn't doing "spark extraction", he's ripping open Transformers and eating them with his mouth. Nothing you listed is a bad as that.

Bluebullet wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Bluebullet wrote:But BM Megs wasn't the Decepticon Megs, therefore different characters. Also, Transformers is aimed at kids. Movie "Megatron" defacing a body by tearing open a Transformers chest and eating their "heart" or "soul" isn't Megatron at all and was added for no reason. Plus a ton of parents won't let their kids buy or watch Transformers after that R performance. If you claim the movie "megatron"'s act of violent R-rated vamirism is pulled directly from any Transformers series or storyline, let alone any version of Megatron, then you need to re-watch every TV show and re-read every comic.

In Armada, Wheeljack shot Hot Shot at point blank range.

In Rebirth, Daniel got seriously effed up by one of the Decepticons, and almost died.

In RiD, Galvatron tried to kill every child on the planet.

And you're mad because Megatron is doing spark extraction?

Point blank isn't that bad. A shot anywhere in Transformers is fine. Daniel wasn't brutally mauled. I haven't been able to find all of the RID episodes, but I'm sure he didn't plan to rip out their hearts and eat them. Movie "Megatron" isn't doing "spark extraction", he's ripping open Transformers and eating them with his mouth. Nothing you listed is a bad as that.

It really only counts as "Bad" if there's blood. I don't think Transformers bleed.

Shadowman wrote:

Bluebullet wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Bluebullet wrote:But BM Megs wasn't the Decepticon Megs, therefore different characters. Also, Transformers is aimed at kids. Movie "Megatron" defacing a body by tearing open a Transformers chest and eating their "heart" or "soul" isn't Megatron at all and was added for no reason. Plus a ton of parents won't let their kids buy or watch Transformers after that R performance. If you claim the movie "megatron"'s act of violent R-rated vamirism is pulled directly from any Transformers series or storyline, let alone any version of Megatron, then you need to re-watch every TV show and re-read every comic.

In Armada, Wheeljack shot Hot Shot at point blank range.

In Rebirth, Daniel got seriously effed up by one of the Decepticons, and almost died.

In RiD, Galvatron tried to kill every child on the planet.

And you're mad because Megatron is doing spark extraction?

Point blank isn't that bad. A shot anywhere in Transformers is fine. Daniel wasn't brutally mauled. I haven't been able to find all of the RID episodes, but I'm sure he didn't plan to rip out their hearts and eat them. Movie "Megatron" isn't doing "spark extraction", he's ripping open Transformers and eating them with his mouth. Nothing you listed is a bad as that.

It really only counts as "Bad" if there's blood. I don't think Transformers bleed.

Knowing how bad this movie is, they probably will.

1. Where does it say anywhere that Cybertron no longer exsists in the movie? Suposidly it was in the leaked script but I didn't see anything in there where it said "Cybertron blew up"

2. Megatron's spark eating was an idea taken from Beast Machines Megatron, there's no difference.

3. Spark eating isn't nearly as bad as killing Bambie's mother or all the sexual refrences I've seen being made in kids movies. (Mulan comes to mind.)

4. From what I read out of the script movie Starscream is nothing like any other Starscream. There's nothing in there to indicate he wants to be the leader of the Decepticons.

Bumblebee, the only thing that's the same about him is he's yellow and he spends the most time with Spike. Everything elce about his character, his overall look, his personality, ect. are all different.

I don't care that he's a Camero insted of a VW that doesn't really change his character any. What does change his character is he looks like Robospion and can't speak.

Movie Starscream and Bumblebee are about as much like their G1 selfs as Energon Ironhide is to G1 Ironhide. (G1 Ironhide being allmost as old as Optimus Prime and in just as many battles and Energon Ironhide being a teenage rookie Optimus Prime barely even notices)

The movie Transformers are just as screwed up as Zaphod. I wouldn't even be suprised if the person who came up with the idea for Zaphod's flip head allso did the movie designs for the Transformers.

Saber Prime wrote:The movie Transformers are just as screwed up as Zaphod. I wouldn't even be suprised if the person who came up with the idea for Zaphod's flip head allso did the movie designs for the Transformers.

Just so you know, that very well could have been Douglas Adams himself. He worked closely with the production staff and wrote the screenplay himself (which is why so many people were shocked at how much it deviated from the novel and television mini-series).

Saber Prime wrote:2. Megatron's spark eating was an idea taken from Beast Machines Megatron, there's no difference.

BM Megatron does NOT eat sparks. He removes them and imprisons them because they represent the individualism of TFs that he dislikes. That is a lot different than being a spark vampire that needs to eat sparks to survive.

Predaprince wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:2. Megatron's spark eating was an idea taken from Beast Machines Megatron, there's no difference.

BM Megatron does NOT eat sparks. He removes them and imprisons them because they represent the individualism of TFs that he dislikes. That is a lot different than being a spark vampire that needs to eat sparks to survive.

Finally! Someone who understands me!

Meh, it really doesn't bother me much. The TF's story has been story has been changed so much, it just seems inevitable. I'm not happy with Meg's and Screamer's designs, but if they work on film I'm sold.

On the Megatron debate, he seems like a very violent version of his BM self. So yeah, I can see him eating sparks instead of just absorbing them.

Bluebullet wrote:The only change I can accept is Megatron being a jet. I just wish the jet wasn't the definition of suck.

lol quoted 4 d3h truth!!!

I'm fine with alot of the things the magazines have said the fans have complained about. The flames on prime don't bother me because the two colors they used were red and blue, prime's famous colors.

I don't have a problem with megatron not being a gun. I just wish that the jet they picked for him to be wasn't so bad looking, and would have rather seen him as a tank, and retain alittle bit of his blockyness, while still having complicated parts on him.

I'm totally fine with updates to alt modes, as long as they make sense. For instance: bumblebee from a vw bug, to a helicopter is something I'd be against, however in this movie he's still a yellow car, just not a vw bug, so thats okay.

I'm totally fine with changes to the characters appearance as long as a large portion still resembles them. For instance: every character from g1 as they were portrayed in the Warwithin Series. That was great, because they still very much so looked like their g1 counterparts, but at the same time had a whole new look to them. Very well executed I must say.

Heres what I can't stand:

-Starscreams bot mode (honestly that thing isn't screamer, its BM waspinator, or just a vehicular update to waspinator)

-bumblebee being a mute (wtf is the purpose of this? dumbest idea I've heard in awhile)

-A large portion of movie meg's design. sure they've improved it a few times, but it just doesn't sit well with me as a tf design.

-The vampire thing with megatron. Kinda lame, seriously, robo-dracula. Think about it...

-ironhide not being red (but oh well, this one isn't all that bad, and I can understand why they went with a different color. At least his design is pretty decent)

-Rachet's face, and colors. Seriously, this guy is a squished and mangled tennis ball. Give me that other rachet design we saw instead. Much better looking.

-scorponok. sure he'll make for some awesome scenes in the movie, but I just don't understand how a helicopter and a scorpion go together. Plus scorponok is supposedly just a drone? Eh, interesting, but why not make him an actual character?

-Frenzy. I probably don't even need to describe how retarded this design is let alone, how easy it would be for him to die in the movie. Seriously... he's practically as thin as a twig.

and thats about the major things I dislike. I'll admit I would have liked to see another g1 movie, but I also understand some of the reasons why it wouldn't work very well. (At some point though, I'd sorta like to see another tf movie made from a cartoon. Hell how awesome would it be to see a beast wars movie? Just a thought )