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Leader-1 looks really different from any version of its toys or toon. It's February 10th are they out yet? Is BBTS carrying them?

BBTS doesn't appear to have them. (And my wallet thanks them.) If they do go up on BBTS, depending on price, of course, I may just have to get them. I have a decent "classics" Go-Bots shelf. These would look nice there...

Agamemnon wrote:BBTS doesn't appear to have them. (And my wallet thanks them.) If they do go up on BBTS, depending on price, of course, I may just have to get them. I have a decent "classics" Go-Bots shelf. These would look nice there...

There must be a delay in manufacturing. Even amiami hasn't carried them yet, or even RK.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Leader-1 looks really different from any version of its toys or toon.

It's Eagle Robo's design from the Machine Robo: Revenge of Chronos anime.

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Leader-1 looks really different from any version of its toys or toon.

It's Eagle Robo's design from the Machine Robo: Revenge of Chronos anime.

The anime designs adhere closer to the original toys. Don't think it would have made a difference in the TF vs. Gobots war: The anime was released in 1986, during TF Season 3, too late to have made a difference.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Leader-1 looks really different from any version of its toys or toon.

It's Eagle Robo's design from the Machine Robo: Revenge of Chronos anime.

The anime designs adhere closer to the original toys. Don't think it would have made a difference in the TF vs. Gobots war: The anime was released in 1986, during TF Season 3, too late to have made a difference.

It came two years too late alright.

Actually no it didn't. Revenge of Chronos was Japan only, which was during season one of Transformers in Japan. Remember Japan's Season 1 is America's season 1 & 2. Also Transformers aired in japan a year after it did here. Revenge of Chronos was technically better than Transformers seasons 1 - 4 in America. So how could it compete in a market it was intended to...

bvzxa wrote:Actually no it didn't.

The show "came" as in "came about", not "came to America".

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was Japan only, which was during season one of Transformers in Japan. Remember Japan's Season 1 is America's season 1 & 2.

Japan got the Transformers cartoon in 1985, not 1986.

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was technically better than Transformers seasons 1 - 4 in America. So how could it compete in a market it was intended to...

That's just it. JelZe said it wouldn't have made a difference even if it, hypothetically, ever did come to the West.

So, uhm, are these up for sale on any websites that ship to Canada yet, or am I looking to have to hit weird untested waters and get scalped on eBay etc.?

NuclearConvoy wrote:So, uhm, are these up for sale on any websites that ship to Canada yet, or am I looking to have to hit weird untested waters and get scalped on eBay etc.?

As far as I know (and I have an interest in these) I don't remember seeing any preorders for these yet. I think someone speculated above that there may be a delay in manufacturing.

Bummer. Major Bummer. *salutes a buttocks*

WOW! those are cool

never thought in a million years that they'd do new versions of classic Gobots figures! still don't see Scooter, Crasher, Cop-tur, or Zod(No! not the superman one)

Turbo's vehicle mode looks amazing! same with Leader 1

btw Spay-C & Screwhead would've made a better Combiner Wars Blast Off & Nosecone than what we're getting!

Here's a link to a short vid showing them off
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 3100097539

Stuartmaximus wrote:never thought in a million years that they'd do new versions of classic Gobots figures! still don't see Scooter, Crasher, Cop-tur, or Zod(No! not the superman one)

There isn't gonna be a Zod.

These aren't GoBots characters, they're based on the characters from the Machine Robo: Revenge of Chronos anime, whose toyline was headed by Bandai and only used toys and characters created by the Japanese. Zod was an American creation made entirely by Tonka, who had no Japanese counterpart.

This is also why the ones we see here aren't all the main six of the GoBots cartoon, as they are instead the characters from Machine Robo: Revenge of Chronos. This is also why the toy that looks like Cy-Kill has such a friendly looking face, as Bike Robo (Cy-Kill's Machine Robo counterpart) was a good guy. The only bad guys in the Machine Robo toyline were the monster-looking ones.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:never thought in a million years that they'd do new versions of classic Gobots figures! still don't see Scooter, Crasher, Cop-tur, or Zod(No! not the superman one)

There isn't gonna be a Zod.

These aren't GoBots characters, they're based on the characters from the Machine Robo: Revenge of Chronos anime, whose toyline was headed by Bandai and only used toys and characters created by the Japanese. Zod was an American creation made entirely by Tonka, who had no Japanese counterpart.

This is also why the ones we see here aren't all the main six of the GoBots cartoon, as they are instead the characters from Machine Robo: Revenge of Chronos. This is also why the toy that looks like Cy-Kill has such a friendly looking face, as Bike Robo (Cy-Kill's Machine Robo counterpart) was a good guy. The only bad guys in the Machine Robo toyline were the monster-looking ones.

And there weren't that many to begin with... Well, in the cartoon they were mere expendable drones akin to the Beast Machine Vehicons. The names:

- Vamp aka Casmodon
- Pincher aka Falgos
- Scorp aka Zarios
- Creepy aka Gildis
- Bladez aka Baldas

They also had this recurring character:
- Monsterous aka Devil Satan 6

Bugsie, Klaws and Hornet were never released in Japan and thus never made a cartoon appearance. They may very well be unfinished designs given to Tonka, unlike the "MRT" series which were commissioned.

I hope they do Monsterous!

Sabrblade wrote:

bvzxa wrote:Actually no it didn't.

The show "came" as in "came about", not "came to America".

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was Japan only, which was during season one of Transformers in Japan. Remember Japan's Season 1 is America's season 1 & 2.

Japan got the Transformers cartoon in 1985, not 1986.

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was technically better than Transformers seasons 1 - 4 in America. So how could it compete in a market it was intended to...

That's just it. JelZe said it wouldn't have made a difference even if it, hypothetically, ever did come to the West.

Transformer did come out in 1985 in Japan.However it was one long season. Season 1 in Japan went through '86 because it was 72 episodes. In 86 they aired 2010 but it was only like 32 episodes, which means going by weeks Japans Season 1 aired well into the first few weeks of '86, and 2010 only being 30 or so pretty much Season 1 was in '86.

The show never came about in america, Most Americans never knew there was a Machine Robo. So technically it wasn't aired here.

Finally I take no opinions to heart from any of the members here, JeLze's statement is a hypothetical, therefore no proof of any statistical data to say if it were shown, would it ever have an effect on Transformers here in the states.

But, storywise Revenge of Chronos was better than Transformers in a sense. As I have state if we had gotten the show in a dubbed form, who knows what would have happened...but it's all past now. But I must say I have watched it and I was impressed. Its a shame we didn't get it as gobots here.

bvzxa wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

bvzxa wrote:Actually no it didn't.

The show "came" as in "came about", not "came to America".

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was Japan only, which was during season one of Transformers in Japan. Remember Japan's Season 1 is America's season 1 & 2.

Japan got the Transformers cartoon in 1985, not 1986.

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was technically better than Transformers seasons 1 - 4 in America. So how could it compete in a market it was intended to...

That's just it. JelZe said it wouldn't have made a difference even if it, hypothetically, ever did come to the West.

Transformer did come out in 1985 in Japan.However it was one long season. Season 1 in Japan went through '86 because it was 72 episodes. In 86 they aired 2010 but it was only like 32 episodes, which means going by weeks Japans Season 1 aired well into the first few weeks of '86, and 2010 only being 30 or so pretty much Season 1 was in '86.

The show never came about in america, Most Americans never knew there was a Machine Robo. So technically it wasn't aired here.

Finally I take no opinions to heart from any of the members here, JeLze's statement is a hypothetical, therefore no proof of any statistical data to say if it were shown, would it ever have an effect on Transformers here in the states.

You're really not on the same page as what was being said.

Sabrblade wrote:

bvzxa wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

bvzxa wrote:Actually no it didn't.

The show "came" as in "came about", not "came to America".

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was Japan only, which was during season one of Transformers in Japan. Remember Japan's Season 1 is America's season 1 & 2.

Japan got the Transformers cartoon in 1985, not 1986.

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was technically better than Transformers seasons 1 - 4 in America. So how could it compete in a market it was intended to...

That's just it. JelZe said it wouldn't have made a difference even if it, hypothetically, ever did come to the West.

Transformer did come out in 1985 in Japan.However it was one long season. Season 1 in Japan went through '86 because it was 72 episodes. In 86 they aired 2010 but it was only like 32 episodes, which means going by weeks Japans Season 1 aired well into the first few weeks of '86, and 2010 only being 30 or so pretty much Season 1 was in '86.

The show never came about in america, Most Americans never knew there was a Machine Robo. So technically it wasn't aired here.

Finally I take no opinions to heart from any of the members here, JeLze's statement is a hypothetical, therefore no proof of any statistical data to say if it were shown, would it ever have an effect on Transformers here in the states.

You're really not on the same page as what was being said.

Says you??

bvzxa wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

bvzxa wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

bvzxa wrote:Actually no it didn't.

The show "came" as in "came about", not "came to America".

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was Japan only, which was during season one of Transformers in Japan. Remember Japan's Season 1 is America's season 1 & 2.

Japan got the Transformers cartoon in 1985, not 1986.

bvzxa wrote:Revenge of Chornos was technically better than Transformers seasons 1 - 4 in America. So how could it compete in a market it was intended to...

That's just it. JelZe said it wouldn't have made a difference even if it, hypothetically, ever did come to the West.

Transformer did come out in 1985 in Japan.However it was one long season. Season 1 in Japan went through '86 because it was 72 episodes. In 86 they aired 2010 but it was only like 32 episodes, which means going by weeks Japans Season 1 aired well into the first few weeks of '86, and 2010 only being 30 or so pretty much Season 1 was in '86.

The show never came about in america, Most Americans never knew there was a Machine Robo. So technically it wasn't aired here.

Finally I take no opinions to heart from any of the members here, JeLze's statement is a hypothetical, therefore no proof of any statistical data to say if it were shown, would it ever have an effect on Transformers here in the states.

You're really not on the same page as what was being said.

Says you??

It's like blue lightning. You can only catch in once in a bottle.

Interesting to note is that some countries did get Revenge of Cronos dubbed, like France who placed it as a sequel to Challenge of the Gobots... sorta. Europe's Robo Machine line did get some re-releases thanks to Bandai direct (Tonka wasn't majorly involved there), then again, Europe's lines are just plain screwy.

Will we be able to buy them in stores??

Wheeljack35 wrote:Will we be able to buy them in stores??

These are for the Japanese market.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wheeljack35 wrote:Will we be able to buy them in stores??

These are for the Japanese market.

Sadly so. Maybe if we ask Hasbro and Bandai of America nicely (read: bug the hell out of them), they can strike a deal to release them as Classic Gobots?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wheeljack35 wrote:Will we be able to buy them in stores??

These are for the Japanese market.

Sadly so. Maybe if we ask Hasbro and Bandai of America nicely (read: bug the hell out of them), they can strike a deal to release them as Classic Gobots?

Good luck with that. Don't recall the two of them ever playing nicely.

Wheeljack35 wrote:Will we be able to buy them in stores??

Usual online specialty stores. Hopefully amiami or hobbysearch will carry them.

Did we ever get some sort of answer to the question of if these are unlicensed, or licensed?