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Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:08 am

It was actually funny that I was talking to my friends about how I wanted Hasbro to release Beast Wars characters on the Generations line and literally two days later they announce Waspinator and Rhinox.

SO I was thinking, what characters could be possible for a re-release?

Tarantulas and a show accurate (if that's even possible)Blackarachnia, Scorponok (all deluxe)
Voyager Inferno and Rampage

We got the 10th anniversary Megatron already... For Preds that's it...

For Maximals a new deluxe Airrazor, Tigatron, Voyager Depth Charge

I know we got the classics Cheetor and Dinobot, along with 10th anniversary PRimal, bu they are... not so great, at least not compared to Rhinox and Waspinator...

News Credits: 3 · Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:22 am

Will probably depend on if more Beast Wars characters appear in the IDW comics.

News Credits: 462 · Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:27 am

Yeah, at this point, it's anyone's guess as to whether we'll see any more or not.

News Credits: 241 · Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:31 am

Thing is, most of the Fan favourites have already been done: Cheetor, Rattrap, Dinobot, Waspinator, Rhinox, anyone else is low-tier or covered by the Club (in the form of Beast Wars: Uprising). I could see Hasbro do Inferno (for the Royalty!) at a certain point, he's just classic, and I wanna see the club use BH Starscream for Uprising Terrorsaur.

News Credits: 293 · Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:30 pm

i dont really see the point of making a new rampage or depthcharge since the toys were spot on to the show CG model. as are all the characters season 2 and on. and pretty much all the season 1 characters suffered in some way on there transition from toy to show, so i think thats why these are the figures we're seeing.

only ones i think scream to be redone are blackarachnia, terrorsaur and maybe scorponok. BA is number one since neither mode are right, but at least telemocha got the colors right. terrorsaur was changed enough for the show that i think he deserves a new mold. better colors, wing that compact and give him his shoulder cannons! and scorponok might as well get a new figure since they never gave him a subsequent release with proper colors, and needs an accurate head.

think the originals for the others still hold up rather well. telemocha cheetor and tigatron are beautiful (albeit tigatron could use a new head), 10th tarantulas nailed it, and the original inferno always looked good.

as for primal and megs (season 1), theres lots of good options:
-ultra sized molds, telemocha/reborn resculpts. they look phenominal. big, but packed with goodies.
-robot masters. either the originals or repaints. small but tonnes of fun.
-10th anniversary deluxe molds. say what you will about primal (i like him anyways) but megs is quite nice, and almost accurate enough to stand with the originals. and check out his united version, its even better.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I wanna see the club use BH Starscream for Uprising Terrorsaur.

now THAT. would be brilliant.

News Credits: 33 · Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:31 pm

Although I'm not a huge fan of BeastWars, I wouldn't mind seeing Scorponok or Tarantulas. Though I strongly doubt that we'll get them.

News Credits: 4 · Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:33 pm

I'd settle for some more reissues for those of us who didn't get them last time around. I'm a big fan of the TM Tarantulas and Cheetor designs so wouldn't mind those two getting new figures. Club Rampage/Protoform X is okay, but I'd love a new Voyager (or Ultra) figure of the character in his BW body too, or at least maybe a tank/something else triple changer.

Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:45 pm

I'm still waiting for Tarantulas. He was a huge fan-favorite, as he was one of the few Predacons who didn't get reduced to "comic relief" status (Waspinator, Inferno, Quickstrike) in the later seasons. He was truly evil, was a great character, and if they make him, they can retool him to make Black Arachnia, as they have done with the Seeker Jets many times.

I know several fans who'd love to see Terrorsaur get a new form. When the show was airing, he seemed like an annoying Starscream knock-off (G1 Starscream even surfaced later in season 1, constantly making me question the reason they needed him), but now, I consider him to be a decent Predacon overall. He really does need an upgrade from his basic 'spring-transforming' form.

I'd like to say Rampage, as I love his character, and his toy, but honestly, the original was amazing, and doesn't need a reboot.

Of course, we all would love to see remakes of Optimus Primal and Megatron in their Season 1 forms, as they would really add to the Generations Beast Wars series. Primal could be a little smaller than Rhinox (but still be a Voyager Class), and they could use the spare plastic to give him his multiple accessories (which were fantastic), and Megatron could be a little taller than Rhinox (also a Voyager), so they could keep a nice size scale between the 2 leaders. Megatron always seemed taller as a robot, and longer as a T-Rex, whereas Optimus was more stocky in build (Example: When they were battling on the energon mountain in the 2-part premier in Season 1, and Optimus was latched onto his face, kicking him in the throat), and they should take that into consideration.

I really can't see them doing the Fuzors, Inferno, or Air Razor, or the Transmetal II forms. Maybe Tigatron, as he could just be a retool of Cheetor. But, I'd love to see a new Scorponok. He was a great character, had lots of fun accessories as a toy, and being that they seem to make a new character with the name Scorponok (G1, Beast Wars, TF Energon, and the first Michael Bay Transformers Movie) every few years, why stop now when he's clearly a prominent character in many series.

It would just be smart marketing if they made the original 5 Maximals / 5 Predacons, and they're half way there, but we really need more Predacons to balance things out, not just Waspinator (4 Maximals VS Waspinator, you know he'd be scrapped in 5 seconds, like in the show).

News Credits: 2 · Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:54 pm

I believe after he won the Fans Choice vote at Botcon, Hasbro killed the retool of Generations FoC Grimlock into BW Transmetal Megatron in favor of doing an entirely new Generations mold for him, or at least that's what I recall them saying. I hope they still plan to do so and I really hope they get around to making updated/more show accurate versions of some of the others such as Scorponok, Tarantulas, Blackarachnia, Terrorsaur, Cheetor, Tigatron and Airazor. Those characters really deserve it and have never had figures that captured their Season 1 forms all that well (Cheetor, Scorponok and Tigatron were the best of the lot but still left much to be desired with regards to show accuracy).

News Credits: 4 · Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:22 pm

Silverbolt was too cool to not get a new figure somewhere down the line. I'd even be okay with them using the name and basic character in a new series instead of rehashing the Aerialbot of the same name.

Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:58 pm

I always thought that the original figures were very show accurate for both Quickstrike and Silverbolt. It would be nice to see them get new figures, but honestly, several of the original Maximals and Predacons need updates in comparison to the Fuzors (though they were both really good characters).

News Credits: 2 · Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:25 pm

Nautilus wrote:I always thought that the original figures were very show accurate for both Quickstrike and Silverbolt. It would be nice to see them get new figures, but honestly, several of the original Maximals and Predacons need updates in comparison to the Fuzors (though they were both really good characters).

Yeah, Quickstrike just needed some paint to make him less transparent, but Silverbolt needs wings that can fold back and down, but other than that they're pretty much spot on.

The season 1 figures are the ones that really need the love. And TM2 Megatron because that stupid spark crystal chamber/seat pod thing in his gut gets in the way and jacks up his bot mode chest and makes me die a little on the inside every time I compare this:

to this:

We REALLY need a new TM2 Megs. As awesome as the original toy looks in alt mode, that bot mode fails hard and with modern engineering, both modes could look spectacular and gain much better articulation and detail, and that version of Megs is definitely worthy of it.

News Credits: 293 · Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:36 pm

something i would kill for is a third party head for optimal optimus, to make an optimal megatron from the final episodes of beast machines.

and someone like dr.wu, to make a proper chromey sword for dinobot. classics/henkei dinobot sorely needs one....

News Credits: 2 · Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:24 pm

shajaki wrote:something i would kill for is a third party head for optimal optimus, to make an optimal megatron from the final episodes of beast machines.

and someone like dr.wu, to make a proper chromey sword for dinobot. classics/henkei dinobot sorely needs one....

Yeah, that would be epic. A new Optimal Optimus where the guns collapse into his chest and the cockpit goes up to cover his upper chest to be show accurate would also be awesome.