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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:20 pm

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william-james88 wrote:So they will be using that RID Megatron mold you think? That would be pretty awesome.

Where is your confusion? They show Beast Megatron's head on what is clearly RID Megatron's body at the end of that clip. If they DON'T actually do this much anticipated figure after that tease, there's going to be hell.


Well just last year instead of finally releasing a G2 General Prime, they instead paid homage to that concept by painting the roadbuster toy.
Or even better, they did something just like this a few years back by taking the abandoned 3H concept of Alpha Trion as a Lion and implementing it in a more recent lion toy.
They could easily do the same thing this time and say "to honour that concept, here is the Beast Fire Predaking mold with this Megatron deco". There is actually more evidence due to precedence that they would do that instead of using the older mold.

Fun Pub has stated that its easier to use more recent molds but I guess for something this special, it could be the actual RID mold. Still, it's not like Fun Pub never dissapointed before. Our expectations should be in check.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Robogeek1973 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:37 pm

Yup, I'm gonna be needing this guy. :-D
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:02 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
That Bot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:So they will be using that RID Megatron mold you think? That would be pretty awesome.

Where is your confusion? They show Beast Megatron's head on what is clearly RID Megatron's body at the end of that clip. If they DON'T actually do this much anticipated figure after that tease, there's going to be hell.


Well just last year instead of finally releasing a G2 General Prime, they instead paid homage to that concept by painting the roadbuster toy.
Or even better, they did something just like this a few years back by taking the abandoned 3H concept of Alpha Trion as a Lion and implementing it in a more recent lion toy.
They could easily do the same thing this time and say "to honour that concept, here is the Beast Fire Predaking mold with this Megatron deco". There is actually more evidence due to precedence that they would do that instead of using the older mold.

Fun Pub has stated that its easier to use more recent molds but I guess for something this special, it could be the actual RID mold. Still, it's not like Fun Pub never dissapointed before. Our expectations should be in check.


Here's another possibility, I'm surprised nobody thought of this yet:

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Full News Story here

The best thing about this is that this head is built into the mold, saving FunPub resources should they go that route.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:03 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
That Bot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:So they will be using that RID Megatron mold you think? That would be pretty awesome.

Where is your confusion? They show Beast Megatron's head on what is clearly RID Megatron's body at the end of that clip. If they DON'T actually do this much anticipated figure after that tease, there's going to be hell.


Well just last year instead of finally releasing a G2 General Prime, they instead paid homage to that concept by painting the roadbuster toy.
Or even better, they did something just like this a few years back by taking the abandoned 3H concept of Alpha Trion as a Lion and implementing it in a more recent lion toy.
They could easily do the same thing this time and say "to honour that concept, here is the Beast Fire Predaking mold with this Megatron deco". There is actually more evidence due to precedence that they would do that instead of using the older mold.

Fun Pub has stated that its easier to use more recent molds but I guess for something this special, it could be the actual RID mold. Still, it's not like Fun Pub never dissapointed before. Our expectations should be in check.


Here's another possibility, I'm surprised nobody thought of this yet:

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Full News Story here

The best thing about this is that this head is built into the mold, saving FunPub resources should they go that route.


I... I made a small mention of it... :(
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:11 pm

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At any rate, careful speculation is in order here.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:17 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:At any rate, careful speculation is in order here.


Naw, I'm pretty sure this calls for rampant, careless, hyping :michaelbay:
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Doctor McGrath » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:24 pm

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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:28 pm

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Doctor McGrath wrote:The FoC Grimlock mold would be a major downer..


Plus, wouldn't it be gutted of electronics, since funpub doesn't do electronic gimmicks?
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby King Kuuga » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:49 pm

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They used what appears to be new artwork in this video for Megatron, based on this hypothetical toy. They didn't just show his head, they didn't reuse old art, they used NEW ART that they had to commission. I admit to not paying a whole lot of attention to club and botcon affairs since I'm not a member and have never gone, but that seems a bit of an unnecessary expenditure if they aren't planning to follow through.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Robogeek1973 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:50 pm

Considering the chest is the RID/CR Megatron/Gigatron chest, I feel comfortable expecting this guy to be the TM3 Megatron that uses that mold.


Now I just wonder which version the club will use, the 6 mode version or the 10 mode one? I would hope it would be the 10 mode one since that's the one the U.S used for RID Megatron.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Seibertron » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:16 pm

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Robogeek1973 wrote:Considering the chest is the RID/CR Megatron/Gigatron chest, I feel comfortable expecting this guy to be the TM3 Megatron that uses that mold.


Now I just wonder which version the club will use, the 6 mode version or the 10 mode one? I would hope it would be the 10 mode one since that's the one the U.S used for RID Megatron.


Which one was used for BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus / Deszaras?
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:18 pm

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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:43 pm

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Robogeek1973 wrote:Considering the chest is the RID/CR Megatron/Gigatron chest, I feel comfortable expecting this guy to be the TM3 Megatron that uses that mold.


Now I just wonder which version the club will use, the 6 mode version or the 10 mode one? I would hope it would be the 10 mode one since that's the one the U.S used for RID Megatron.


Which one was used for BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus / Deszaras?
The 10 mode one. Though, the snout required for the mold's Bat Mode was removed to make room for the new head, but while the toy can still assume that configuration, it looks less convincing with the snout piece missing.

Only the original Car Robots Gigatron version of the mold used the 6 mode version, as Hasbro's RID Megatron used the retooled back piece of the 10 mode Devil Gigatron version.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:52 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Doctor McGrath wrote:The FoC Grimlock mold would be a major downer..


Plus, wouldn't it be gutted of electronics, since funpub doesn't do electronic gimmicks?


Doesnt matter, those elctronics arent that great and they've just been removed for the recent RID Grimlock release which redoes that entire section which is what I would hope happens here if they use that mode. They would have to remake that tyranosaurus head into a dragon.

That Bot wrote:They used what appears to be new artwork in this video for Megatron, based on this hypothetical toy. They didn't just show his head, they didn't reuse old art, they used NEW ART that they had to commission. I admit to not paying a whole lot of attention to club and botcon affairs since I'm not a member and have never gone, but that seems a bit of an unnecessary expenditure if they aren't planning to follow through.


Oh man, I can tell you dont follow the Botcon stuff because you clearly werent duped before. The club comissioned this whole new animation for the following character cryotech which clearly used the energon Shockblast body:

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And yet that figure never came out. Dont see me as too negative, I just want to temper expectations. Every argument presented has precedent against it.

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Which one was used for BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus / Deszaras?


They used the 10 mode version but because of the different headsculpt, the toy couldnt do the Bat mode.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:25 pm

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Up until now, the exclusives for this year suggested that this year's story would be set in a pre-Beast Wars setting like 2006's story was. But now, with this video seemingly implying the presence of a post-Beast Wars-set figure, I'm beginning to wonder if the story might actually be set sometime after Beast Machines. Maybe even after the Universe War, during the DoFP epilogue that we got a glimpse of on the final page of the 2006 comic. This would suggest that the boxed set toys might be upgraded body forms of the Council, Tarantulas and Ravage. While both Ravage and Tarantulas died in the BW cartoon, they were both resurrected in 3H's "Primeval Dawn" comics and, while Ravage's fate was left unknown due to 3H going under before "Primeval Dawn" could be concluded, Tarantulas was alive during the Universe War and could have survived its events. And since Ravage's fate wasn't made known, this new story could possibly confirm his survival as well, leading to both him and Tarantulas being upgraded into their combiner bodies. And if this were to be a post-Universe War story, that could explain some of the non-boxed set exclusives being G1/G1-related characters instead of Beast Era characters since the Universe War had some G1 guys take part in it.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:32 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Up until now, the exclusives for this year suggested that this year's story would be set in a pre-Beast Wars setting like 2006's story was. But now, with this video seemingly implying the presence of a post-Beast Wars-set figure, I'm beginning to wonder if the story might actually be set sometime after Beast Machines. Maybe even after the Universe War, during the DoFP epilogue that we got a glimpse of on the final page of the 2006 comic. This would suggest that the boxed set toys might be upgraded body forms of the Council, Tarantulas and Ravage. While both Ravage and Tarantulas died in the BW cartoon, they were both resurrected in 3H's "Primeval Dawn" comics and, while Ravage's fate was left unknown due to 3H going under before "Primeval Dawn" could be concluded, Tarantulas was alive during the Universe War and could have survived its events. And since Ravage's fate wasn't made known, this new story could possibly confirm his survival as well, leading to both him and Tarantulas being upgraded into their combiner bodies. And if this were to be a post-Universe War story, that could explain some of the non-boxed set exclusives being G1/G1-related characters instead of Beast Era characters since the Universe War had some G1 guys take part in it.


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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby megatronus » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:54 pm

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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Va'al » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:44 am

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william-james88 wrote:So they will be using that RID Megatron mold you think? That would be pretty awesome.

Where is your confusion? They show Beast Megatron's head on what is clearly RID Megatron's body at the end of that clip. If they DON'T actually do this much anticipated figure after that tease, there's going to be hell.


Well just last year instead of finally releasing a G2 General Prime, they instead paid homage to that concept by painting the roadbuster toy.
Or even better, they did something just like this a few years back by taking the abandoned 3H concept of Alpha Trion as a Lion and implementing it in a more recent lion toy.
They could easily do the same thing this time and say "to honour that concept, here is the Beast Fire Predaking mold with this Megatron deco". There is actually more evidence due to precedence that they would do that instead of using the older mold.

Fun Pub has stated that its easier to use more recent molds but I guess for something this special, it could be the actual RID mold. Still, it's not like Fun Pub never dissapointed before. Our expectations should be in check.


Here's another possibility, I'm surprised nobody thought of this yet:

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Full News Story here

The best thing about this is that this head is built into the mold, saving FunPub resources should they go that route.


I... I made a small mention of it... :(


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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Black Hat » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:24 am

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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:49 am

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As this seems to be the current thread for BotCon 2016 toy discussion, the BotCon Twitter has made a few new Tweets regarding the souvenirs:

The 2016 Souvenir "centerpiece" item & the non-Combiner Wars Maximal were NOT made in large quantities. These WILL sell out at the show.

We fully expect both items to be sold out by, at the latest, Friday afternoon - maybe earlier.

Yes, there will be some Combiner Wars Maximals available for sale at BotCon!

Also, this list of rumored at-show exclusives has been circulating the Internet:

TM3 Megatron (from RID Megatron)
CW Tigatron (from boxset Ravage)
CW Bluestreak (from Prowl/Smokescreen, presumably the custom class figure)
Spider Arcee (from Legends Blackarachnia)
CW Terrorsaur (from ???)
CW Alpha Trion (from ???)
Reflector (troop builder, from CW Shockwave)
Perceptor (GT exclusive, Reflector redeco)

Comparing this list with what we know so far of the exclusives:
5 CW molds in the boxed set, four Deluxes and the 1 Voyager

1 CW Deluxe attendee figure with a new headsculpt

1 CW Deluxe custom class figure with an "alternative" headsculpt, and who is a 1984-1985 G1 character rather than a BW character

1 CW Legends as the troop builder set, and as the GT figure who is a non-BW character related to a familiar G1 character

1 CW Deluxe souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold "centerpiece" souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold other souvenir figure

And one of the souvenirs (not the centerpiece?) has a non-U.S. headsculpt.

Tigatron could be the attendee figure, as the Ravage head would still be considered a "new" head.

Bluestreak at first glance would seem like the custom class figure, but that can't be right since the custom class figure has an "alternative" headsculpt and Bluestreak's head wouldn't be any different from that of Prowl and Smokescreen. If it were Ratchet out of First Aid or Hoist out of Trailbreaker that would make more sense.

Reflector would be the troop builder and Perceptor the Golden Ticket figure.

Terrorsaur or Alpha Trion would be the CW Deluxe souvenir, but Alpha Trion doesn't make sense since they just did Alpha Trizer in 2014 and there's the upcoming Titans Return Alpha Trion figure coming. So it might just be Terrorsaur, maybe from CW Air Raid.

TM3 Megatron has got to be the centerpiece

Which leaves Legends Blackarachnia Arcee as the non-CW souvenir Maximal with the non-U.S. headsculpt.

But then the Tweets said that there would be CW MaximalS (plural), so something on this list can't be right since Tigatron is the only CW Maximal listed, unless Bluestreak or whoever the custom class G1 character figure is gets labeled as a Maximal, but that might seem like a copout.

So aside from TM3 Megatron and maybe spider Arcee (since she was rumored previously), I'd be wary of this list as it seems mostly like guesswork.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby william-james88 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:05 pm

I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.

Also that Spider Arcee sounds a lot like backwards thinking.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:10 pm

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william-james88 wrote:I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.
In the defense of this year's warnings, though, Pete posted this on The Allspark as a heads up:
Last year the AVERAGE quantity for the souvenirs was 1500. This year, the average of what will be available at BotCon is 1060.

Yes, we are gonna sell out of some, if not all the items available at BotCon.
While I don't doubt the second statement, the first one has me a little concerned if the Golden Ticket people all buy up 3x the limit they can buy of the centerpiece figure on the first day.
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:15 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.
In the defense of this year's warnings, though, Pete posted this on The Allspark as a heads up:
Last year the AVERAGE quantity for the souvenirs was 1500. This year, the average of what will be available at BotCon is 1060.

Yes, we are gonna sell out of some, if not all the items available at BotCon.
While I don't doubt the second statement, the first one has me a little concerned if the Golden Ticket people all buy up 3x the limit they can buy of the centerpiece figure on the first day.


I dunno, we're still 2 moths out, and they're packaged in bags, I guess if they notice people are being scalping douches/buying for friends, they could theoretically crank out some more :-?
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Re: BotCon 2016 Promotional Video feat. Megatron

Postby megatronus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:17 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I just want to say that Botcon said the exact same thing last year regarding how small the volume would be. They were really adamant about it too. And it turned out there were still sets and figures available all week-end long.
In the defense of this year's warnings, though, Pete posted this on The Allspark as a heads up:
Last year the AVERAGE quantity for the souvenirs was 1500. This year, the average of what will be available at BotCon is 1060.

Yes, we are gonna sell out of some, if not all the items available at BotCon.
While I don't doubt the second statement, the first one has me a little concerned if the Golden Ticket people all buy up 3x the limit they can buy of the centerpiece figure on the first day.


I dunno, we're still 2 moths out, and they're packaged in bags, I guess if they notice people are being scalping douches/buying for friends, they could theoretically crank out some more :-?

That seems implausible. Shipping costs alone would make that a fools errand.
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