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Interesting. We knew form the FFF 2 weeks back (that had 3 toy reveals ), that the Victory themed Haslab project would be revealed on the 27th, but I figured it would just be a info dump on Pulse etc... I am looking forward to the reveal, but if they are going to make a whole FFF out of it, hopefully they will show more than just the Haslab project. I don't need a 30 minute explanation of just that.

I still feel it is not the best use of Haslab to put Star Saber there. he really wouldn't need anything more then a commander class figure. Sure, he's big with 3 robots over all, but they are super simple transformations. Maybe if it's the full Victory Leo set. But there are bigger more complex transformers from victory that could do well there, like Lio Kaiser. And what about Deathsaurus? Guess we will see.

What I'm hoping for: Star Saber reveal, Kingdom wave 4, and the Amazon "Golden Disk" sets for Kingdom

What I'm expecting: Star Saber, half an hour of babbling about how great Japanese G1 is, and in the final few seconds another reminder that the Shattered Glass line is a thing.

Bad Ending: Half an hour of babbling about how great the 1986 movie is, then Star Saber reveal in the last few seconds.

Munkky wrote:What I'm hoping for: Star Saber reveal, Kingdom wave 4, and the Amazon "Golden Disk" sets for Kingdom

What I'm expecting: Star Saber, half an hour of babbling about how great Japanese G1 is, and in the final few seconds another reminder that the Shattered Glass line is a thing.

Agree with all of this wholeheartedly

Immortal Starscream wrote:I still feel it is not the best use of Haslab to put Star Saber there. he really wouldn't need anything more then a commander class figure. Sure, he's big with 3 robots over all, but they are super simple transformations. Maybe if it's the full Victory Leo set. But there are bigger more complex transformers from victory that could do well there, like Lio Kaiser. And what about Deathsaurus? Guess we will see.

It's probably on HasLab as Hasbro don't want to take a risk on the figure at retail and it allows a bit more flexibility in terms of plastic usage then the fixed price point would offer.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Munkky wrote:What I'm hoping for: Star Saber reveal, Kingdom wave 4, and the Amazon "Golden Disk" sets for Kingdom

What I'm expecting: Star Saber, half an hour of babbling about how great Japanese G1 is, and in the final few seconds another reminder that the Shattered Glass line is a thing.

Agree with all of this wholeheartedly

I also think this will be what will happen. I am certain we won't get a mention of the Golden Disk line, but wave 4 kingdom might be a thing, just maybe.

Star Saber hype!

Transformers Victory has one of my favorite japanese theme songs:


Day 601 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Victory Saber makes sense as a HasLab project. Hopefully it blows way past its backing and Hasbro decides to release a whole line-up of Transformers from the Victory series.

Whatever happens with Victory this friday, I'll support it, But it may not be just Starsaber. I posted this earlier in another thread:

o.supreme wrote:Whatever the next Haslab turns out to be, we know it will be based on TF:Victory, and will be revealed this Friday August 27. If it is one character, that is fine, but perhaps it would be a series of characters? I could see a CC Star Saber, a CC Victory Leo, a CC Deszarus, and perhaps Dinoking for a combined total of around $400-$450. Just as an example

Don't get your (or anyone else's) hopes up.
Hope is undiscovered disappointment.

Hope for just Star Saber and everything else with be a bonus.

ZeroWolf wrote:Don't get your (or anyone else's) hopes up.
Hope is undiscovered disappointment.

Hope for just Star Saber and everything else with be a bonus.

I totaly understand that, and I agree, any more would be a bonus.

However, The least expensive Haslab to date is the Hero Quest game, and I think that was $150?? I would be a bit puzzled if it was *just* Star Saber for say...$100.00, any more, then YES you start to get into the argument that the MP toy is superfluous. But again, we shall see.

Also, something I just saw on Pulse makes me a bit nervous, looks like a Star Wars Haslab Rancor is coming soon as well. I hope they don't offer it, and the TF:Victory one at the same time

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Don't get your (or anyone else's) hopes up.
Hope is undiscovered disappointment.

Hope for just Star Saber and everything else with be a bonus.

I totaly understand that, and I agree, any more would be a bonus.

However, The least expensive Haslab to date is the Hero Quest game, and I think that was $150?? I would be a bit puzzled if it was *just* Star Saber for say...$100.00, any more, then YES you start to get into the argument that the MP toy is superfluous. But again, we shall see.

Also, something I just saw on Pulse makes me a bit nervous, looks like a Star Wars Haslab Rancor is coming soon as well. I hope they don't offer it, and the TF:Victory one at the same time

They announced they Rancor project a day or two after the Galactus project whent live. Hopefully that means that whatever they announce for Victory won't launch until after the Rancor project. Not that having all three franchises have Haslab projects running back to back is a good thing either. They all potentially take backers from away from each other, depending on how much cross collecting there actually is.

Fid

I'll be excited if it's Star Saber or Deathsaurus as a voyager or leader in the upcoming wave or line -- HasLab is simply not for me.

bodrock wrote:I'll be excited if it's Star Saber or Deathsaurus as a voyager or leader in the upcoming wave or line -- HasLab is simply not for me.

We already know the rest of Kingdom's regular releases, no chance of either of them there. However, you did just make me think of something. Haslab Unicron was timed to come out when the TFTM movie anniversary was due and the SS86 line was coming out, meaning there were toys to go along with the Haslab offering.

Granted there isn't a mandatory celebrate the movie anniversary every 5 years thing attached to Victory, but I do wonder if there will be some other regular releases in the next line to match up with whatever Haslab ends up including.

Watch, whatever they announce will be sold out in minutes. Like perceptor. With stores having 0 stock for months and that world's collide 4 pack mess. Only random stores get it. There is no guarantee that whatever they announce will last 5 mins.

Haslab

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

bodrock wrote:I'll be excited if it's Star Saber or Deathsaurus as a voyager or leader in the upcoming wave or line -- HasLab is simply not for me.

We already know the rest of Kingdom's regular releases, no chance of either of them there. However, you did just make me think of something. Haslab Unicron was timed to come out when the TFTM movie anniversary was due and the SS86 line was coming out, meaning there were toys to go along with the Haslab offering.

Granted there isn't a mandatory celebrate the movie anniversary every 5 years thing attached to Victory, but I do wonder if there will be some other regular releases in the next line to match up with whatever Haslab ends up including.

I would not be surprised if there are more Victory figs if HasLab is indeed Star Saber! But I dunno about that many actual figures since the US never saw Victory translated. I’d love to see more though since I feel like we have more than enough G1 updates

Cheetron wrote:Watch, whatever they announce will be sold out in minutes. Like perceptor.

Perceptor is still available. I can still order cases from multiple distributors for the Seibertron store and it is currently available from a couple of our sponsors that I just checked.

Cheetron wrote:With stores having 0 stock for months and that world's collide 4 pack mess. Only random stores get it. There is no guarantee that whatever they announce will last 5 mins.

What World's Collide mess are you referring to? The set just came out a couple of weeks ago. Just saw one at my Target today. If it's sold out in your area, just wait a few months and your store should get its restock. Or set a tab in your browser to open up Target's page for that item so you can see when it's in stock at your local stores or when it's available online to ship (if you haven't already done this). Just a couple of suggestions. If you missed it the first time around, I'm sure you'll get another chance to get this set again. There's no way a set with 3 or 4 remolds is an extremely limited set.

Maybe Cheetron was referring to the set showing up at Wal-Mart when it's supposed to be a Target exclusive?

And I haven't seen it at my Target either, even though I had an employee check and tell me they were supposed to receive 3 sets and they mysteriously vanished off the truck.

bodrock wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

bodrock wrote:I'll be excited if it's Star Saber or Deathsaurus as a voyager or leader in the upcoming wave or line -- HasLab is simply not for me.

We already know the rest of Kingdom's regular releases, no chance of either of them there. However, you did just make me think of something. Haslab Unicron was timed to come out when the TFTM movie anniversary was due and the SS86 line was coming out, meaning there were toys to go along with the Haslab offering.

Granted there isn't a mandatory celebrate the movie anniversary every 5 years thing attached to Victory, but I do wonder if there will be some other regular releases in the next line to match up with whatever Haslab ends up including.

I would not be surprised if there are more Victory figs if HasLab is indeed Star Saber! But I dunno about that many actual figures since the US never saw Victory translated. I’d love to see more though since I feel like we have more than enough G1 updates

It's pretty much guaranteed that there will be no Victory figures in 2022 as that line has been leaked through Target listings (or put it this way, I'll be surprised to see any). However 2023 is wide open and we know through Black Zarak and the rumoured Mineva figure that they are dipping their toe into JG1 waters, so just wait and see for a couple of years time.

Really hoping for something other than Starsabre even if they move MP Raiden to Haslab and Hasbro just gets in a muddle over headmasters and Victory (which might be possible seeing as the cant remeber what generations of Zoids they are on XD)

Not expecting much, maybe more Kingdom stuff with Legacy being saved for the not New York comic con or IGN reveal.

blackeyedprime wrote:Really hoping for something other than Starsabre even if they move MP Raiden to Haslab and Hasbro just gets in a muddle over headmasters and Victory (which might be possible seeing as the cant remeber what generations of Zoids they are on XD)

Not expecting much, maybe more Kingdom stuff with Legacy being saved for the not New York comic con or IGN reveal.

Raiden won't be in Haslab since that is for Hasbro initiated projects. Raiden is a Takara Tomy project. He'll be released same as any other Takara MP outside japan, through Hasbro sanctioned imports.

The Haslab project will definitely be Starsabre. We've had the rumour for over a year now and hasbro hinted at it.

william-james88 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Really hoping for something other than Starsabre even if they move MP Raiden to Haslab and Hasbro just gets in a muddle over headmasters and Victory (which might be possible seeing as the cant remeber what generations of Zoids they are on XD)

Not expecting much, maybe more Kingdom stuff with Legacy being saved for the not New York comic con or IGN reveal.

Raiden won't be in Haslab since that is for Hasbro initiated projects. Raiden is a Takara Tomy project. He'll be released same as any other Takara MP outside japan, through Hasbro sanctioned imports.

The Haslab project will definitely be Starsabre. We've had the rumour for over a year now and hasbro hinted at it.

Yeah, the main question at this point is whether it will only be Starsabre, or anyone else with him.

At best, probably only Victory Leo and maybe Jan, i know some rumours did say Victory Leo for the Victory combination.

Maybe it will just be high quality replicas of starsabres sword and shield paving the way to do more toy weapons like Marvels shields/hammers etc