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News Credits: 409 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:08 am

Height comparison pictures of MP Grimlock have appeared on ACToys. One of their members has taken a few recent comparison images of MP Grimlock and merged them together to give us a good indication of how tall the figure will be next to MP Prime.

Click here to see a few additional pictures.

Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:25 am

Weel has i tought he his smaller than MP Prime. i believe that he is at the same scale of MP Starscream.
This is a little disapointing.

News Credits: 2 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:39 am

oh good, so he WILL be about as tall as MP Convoy.what everyone seems to be forgetting is that dinomode is STILL the more compact mode and that`s shown in these images to be right up to MP Convoy`s shoulder.

Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:31 am

I know most that some will agree and others won't, but I think that the size fits perfectly in with the Classicsverse figures. Classics Grimmy always seemed undersized. If these are accurate, MP Grimlock seems to be more in scale.

News Credits: 9 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:54 am

Prowl1529 wrote:Weel has i tought he his smaller than MP Prime. i believe that he is at the same scale of MP Starscream.
This is a little disapointing.

I disagree. If these pics are accurate he'll be as tall as SS when SS is on his stand. So it's better than it could be!

News Credits: 4 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:40 am

Well grimlock may not be taller than prime, but he seems to have more "bulk" to him.

I still think he is worth the money I'm going to pay for him. And can't wait to get him

News Credits: 1 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:49 am

freakin amazing. And we haven't even gotten painted pix yet. Never doubted how good he'd be from the beginning. (Kinda like Morpheus believed in Neo - lol)

News Credits: 198 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:36 am

Tall enough for me.

News Credits: 19 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:41 am

links not working for me, can someone post them here?

Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:02 am

awesome

News Credits: 9 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:30 am

I am more interested in where there will be metal on his body. Post MP-01 and its mould I have been a little disappointed with the amount of metal in those that followed.

News Credits: 409 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:56 am

I am a bit disappointed. I wanted him to be at least one head length higher than MP Prime. So why does MP Grimlock cost more than the other Masterpieces?

Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:21 am

It's about what I expected. He also looks to be a bit taller in dino mode, which is good since that's the mode I'll have him in most of the time.

Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:39 am

compared to movie Prime thats right on the dot!!! but to MP Prime a little dissapointing. still i can't wait for this guy!! :APPLAUSE:

Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:46 am

I'm sorry but I'm very disappointed now. I don't care much how you justify the height by saying he's a bit larger than MP Starscream or that mode is a bit more compact. Fact is he's not as tall as MP Prime, he's been downgraded to that secondary & slightly smaller Masterpiece size present. It's Masterpiece, it's in the $150 range, and it's smaller than MP Prime. The comparison shots there with Classics Prime, Masterpiece Optimus and then G1 Grimlock have turned me off quite a bit to the item. The price made sense to me when I suspected something as big as if not larger than MP Optimus Prime/MP Megatron. Hell I was fully expecting a MP Grimlock with the size/proportions of Supreme Class Cybertron Starscream! But now, looking at that, he'll be MP Starscream sized, just a bit broader/bulkier. MAJOR disappointment.

Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:03 pm

I won't be getting this, too expensive and it's not even bigger than Prime when it really should be.

News Credits: 5749 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:11 pm

I'm okay with the height, but like most I assumed the higher pricing would equate to a larger figure.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:19 pm

Is it die cast?

Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:50 pm

if i'd set myself up for an equal to mp prime i'd be disappointed. as it stands im very happy because i can't stand 'classics' grimmers and this seems to be the ideal substitute.

News Credits: 3 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:53 pm

I like the size, I hope that the higher price relates to Takara using a higher quality factory (than the one used recently by them and Hasbro for Universe) it would be horrible to get a masterpiece transformer plagued by some of the QC problems we have dealt with of late.

Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:56 pm

Man, we sure are a whiny bunch.

Maybe it's the cost of production that's gone up due to the market sucking right now? Or that they're having to pay their factories more?

Either way, I'll gladly pay $150 for MP Grimlock. I'm an adult toy collector, and I can afford to waste money on these. If you can't, then your priorities are misplaced.

I think until we see an absolute side-by-side comparison, without depth of field to trick the eye, then we'll know EXACTLY how big.

The comparison pic is probably pretty close, but MP Prime is behind Classics Prime, and MP Grimlock is in front, which means the size difference would be a little more. Meaning, MP Grimlock may be even smaller.

Now, as much as I'd want a giant MP Grimlock that towers over MP Prime/Megatron, seriously, did folks expect them to make an MP figure that dwarves the "hero" leaders?

I don't expect him to.

And he still looks to be bigger than MP Starscream, who I agree was too small. They should all be 90% to 100% the same size, or as close in size to each other as possible. If he's 85% the size, then eh, I'd like him bigger, but I'll take whatever they throw at us.

I mean, despite all the whining and complaining, where else are we going to get a Masterpiece figure? They'll do it their own way, and those happy with it will buy it.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:10 pm

wildscorpio67 wrote:I know most that some will agree and others won't, but I think that the size fits perfectly in with the Classicsverse figures. Classics Grimmy always seemed undersized. If these are accurate, MP Grimlock seems to be more in scale.

I agree with this sentiment, as someone who doesn't own any other MP's, and was dissapointed with Classics Grimlock being a deluxe, this fits the bill nicely.

If the joint on his jaw is tight enough you could set up this pose with Classics Skywarp: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Imag ... kywarp.jpg

Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:41 pm

Oh come now, let's not get into calling each other whiney for having honest and intelligent opinions on the item. Yes, its a fantastic toy, biggest Grimlock ever if I'm not mistaken, true respectful homage to the G1 design given new MP form, and yes despite issue with a high price and small size there's simply no way this item will not find its way to my shelf. But, especially since I will be purchasing, its all more the reason to voice my opinion on the matter. And if for the same issues there are some that might have purchased if not for such problems, then they too should let it be known why.

If you're one of the folks that has no issue with cash, cool for you - that's getting to be rare nowadays, and should you love the size in comparison to Classics, rock on. But if Grimlock is being done as a Masterpiece and scale comparison is to be taken into account, should it not be the MP scale instead of production on a high priced collector's item matching only to a separate & generally smaller line? Even if they went more plastic than diecast to do so (as in the case of MP Megatron, Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker), the MP Grimlock should have been as large if not larger than Masterpiece Prime.

When I bought the 20th Anniversary Masterpiece Optimus Prime brand new, new release it cost me around $80. You can't scale down from that size, likely follow the trend of less diecast in MPs (as they've gone along) which means more plastic, then tack on another $70 with nothing more than 'the economy' as an excuse. Size isn't everything, sure, and with Transformers items there's always differing sizes within any line. But when creating a Masterpiece Grimlock with the two established sizes of Prime/Megatron larger form and Starscream/other Seekers slightly smaller form, they run with the smaller size? There's zero problem with an established customer having some kind of expectation from their supplier, especially since this is the Masterpiece line that caters to the collector.

Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:27 pm

wildscorpio67 wrote:I know most that some will agree and others won't, but I think that the size fits perfectly in with the Classicsverse figures. Classics Grimmy always seemed undersized. If these are accurate, MP Grimlock seems to be more in scale.

Yes, my first thought seeing the comparison was that it looked better standing next to Classics Prime! Its not exact, but I agree it totally looks better with Classics Prime!

I had just sort of assumed that MP Grimlock would be as tall as MP-Prime, or a tad taller, but I'm not surprised that its smaller. Again, I'll pose mine with my Classics figs, because the Classics Grimlock toy is an abomination :lol:

Now...all we need is MP Slag, Sludge, Swoop and Snarl!! :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 1 · Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:48 pm

Looks to me to be about the size of Cybertron Optimus.

I can live with that.

In any case, I'll reserve judgment till I see actual comparison pics. Being just a little off one way or the other can make a huge difference when trying to piece these sizes together.