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News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:30 pm

I for one will not be buying a single toy from this line and personally i think everyone should boycott it, these prices are ridiculous and have no justification. Clearly this is hasbro trying to take advantage of its consumer again, it would be one thing if the quality was better but from what ive seen and heard its not. Plus if these sell i guarantee the rest of the other lines will be repriced to match effectively screwing over a lot of people.

News Credits: 4845 · by **william-james88** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:39 pm

Megatron Wolf wrote:it would be one thing if the quality was better but from what ive seen and heard its not.

Haha, and better yet, several are the exact same toys we have already gotten.

I am still buying them, but at a discount.

Also, boycotting a line could just send the message that TF toys dont sell which could end the line (which was almost the case back in 1993).

So at least by buying at a discount I am sending the message that I will buy your toys, but at a certain price.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:44 pm

My local Toys R Us only had Optimus and Grimlock. I picked up an Optimus, but I was looking forward to seeing Barricade. My area never has ****. I'm centuries ahead of everyone on the planet, but everyone around me is always 5 years behind everyone else. We still never got Titans Return Optimus or Megatron here.

News Credits: 11 · by **RAR** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:45 pm

I'm sure with these being widely distributed there will be plenty of sales just as there has been with RID & TR & Rescue Bots in the last year.

I will be getting the toys but not at the initial retail price while i'm waiting for the prices to drop a bit I'll be pondering some Japanese toys and some third party items i'd like to get such as Dream factory's Movie Bonecrusher leaderclass scale toy - which looks gorgeous.

But I recall how AOE Leader Optimus and Grimlock ended up being reduced to something like £16.99 & the First Edition one was out in Clearance places for under £20.00 so I can't see a reason to go running to the store - i'm sure the 1 steps will be on sale pretty quickly in the UK - heck they are on sale price already in America.

Titans Returns Dlx toys are supposed to be £19.99 - yet few stores sell them for that - I suspect the high prices won't last then they can mark them down as 30% or 50% off and be telling the truth about it.

Heck I'm mildly irked with myself for not waiting on TR Soundwave who is now £19.99 Cheaper than a Combiner Wars Skywarp is.

I think they will come down to £15.99 very quickly and then drop again to £12.50 later.

The only problem is sometimes a wave 1 item can be a swine to get cheap as the sales don't hit hard till wave 2 or 3. But usually the Amazon or ebay price has reduced by then so that compensates a lot.

If I find I have a Movie toy itch I can always buy some Wei Jiang Overscale Dinos or That Striker Prime I still don't have one of.

I'm actually much keener to get TR wave 4 anyway.

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:52 pm

i dont see the point of griping or boycotting hasbro over the price hike. it isnt the first time this has happened. iirc deluxes used to be $7-10 in 2007 and then up to 15. so why start complaining now. it isnt gonna start a linewide price increase its just because of the movie and its "premier edition."

want cheaper prices go to walmart
they have deluxes for 15.83 and voyagers for 26. something

barricade can use his backpack as a shield but only with the circle gun thing applied

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:57 pm

SlyTF1 wrote: We still never got Titans Return Optimus or Megatron here.

not missing much

by **LE0KING** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:57 pm

All four deluxes found in Newcastle, Indiana (the place that never gets anything)
Shockingly the price was only 15.99. For some reason they were still using their codenames.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:01 pm

Bumblebee21 wrote:i dont see the point of griping or boycotting hasbro over the price hike. its the first time this has happened. iirc deluxes used to be $7-10 in 2007 and then up to 15. so why start complaining now. it isnt gonna start a linewide price increase its just because of the movie and its "premier edition."

Besides, going TakaraTomy would only be worse since the differences, if any, are negligible, and you'd have to pay an even higher price to get them.

I think someone mentioned the figures' prices are now on par with similar offerings like from Marvel or DC Comics, coincidentally the general packaging style in the same between them (boxed instead of carded).

News Credits: 4845 · by **william-james88** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:19 pm

Bumblebee21 wrote:barricade can use his backpack as a shield but only with the circle gun thing applied

can you take a pic, with a deatailed description of how to do it? We could then news it to show all the fans.

SlyTF1 wrote:We still never got Titans Return Optimus or Megatron here.

Those guys have a super odd distribution though. Something tells me several shipments were either delayed, lost or ignored and rotting somewhere because they didnt appear for long and stores are now moving on to the next wave.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:50 pm

Can confirm the difficulty of the stores around here. They don't have any labels created for the new toys, and they are not expecting a new TF shipment for 2 weeks.

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:03 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:barricade can use his backpack as a shield but only with the circle gun thing applied

can you take a pic, with a deatailed description of how to do it? We could then news it to show all the fans.
.

its doesnt tab in or anything but it does fit.
all i did was tab in the machine gun, take the back pack off,open the doors and then close it around the gun

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:24 pm

FYI, Amazon has all of the wave 1 figures in stock ready to ship. BBTS has the deluxes and voyagers in stock as well.

by **j3zt3r69** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:39 pm

Voyager Optimus purchased from Smyths and its awesome, by far the best mold so far.
Just need a more detailed leader class and its a winner.
Bumblebee,Barricade,Beserker and Voyager Grimlock all on sale.
Visit to Toys R us tomorrow to track down Voyager Megatron.

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:53 pm

Bumblebee21 wrote:i dont see the point of griping or boycotting hasbro over the price hike. it isnt the first time this has happened. iirc deluxes used to be $7-10 in 2007 and then up to 15. so why start complaining now. it isnt gonna start a linewide price increase its just because of the movie and its "premier edition."

It's like the boiling frog story. Drop a frog in a pan of boiling water and he jumps straight out. Drop a frog in a pan of tepid water and slowly raise the heat to boiling, the frog will sit there and boil to death. We are the frog and Hasbro has been slowly raising the water temperaure over the years. While we've been getting hotter in our pans, and getting a little discomfort, it's only been small over a long time so we think it's not bad. But eventually, we really need to jump out of the pan.

by **LE0KING** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:57 pm

Insurgent wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:i dont see the point of griping or boycotting hasbro over the price hike. it isnt the first time this has happened. iirc deluxes used to be $7-10 in 2007 and then up to 15. so why start complaining now. it isnt gonna start a linewide price increase its just because of the movie and its "premier edition."

It's like the boiling frog story. Drop a frog in a pan of boiling water and he jumps straight out. Drop a frog in a pan of tepid water and slowly raise the heat to boiling, the frog will sit there and boil to death. We are the frog and Hasbro has been slowly raising the water temperaure over the years. While we've been getting hotter in our pans, and getting a little discomfort, it's only been small over a long time so we think it's not bad. But eventually, we really need to jump out of the pan.

Again, purchased today at walmart. No price increase.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:40 pm

LE0KING wrote:Again, purchased today at walmart. No price increase.

I'm starting to think that the price increase is mainly in TRU's and online, as the Walmart and Target sightings I've been seeing have had no price increase. Which is similar to the titans return figures, which online and in TRU are like $16.99 but in walmart and target they are still hovering at $14.97

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:38 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
LE0KING wrote:Again, purchased today at walmart. No price increase.

I'm starting to think that the price increase is mainly in TRU's and online, as the Walmart and Target sightings I've been seeing have had no price increase. Which is similar to the titans return figures, which online and in TRU are like $16.99 but in walmart and target they are still hovering at $14.97

tru sticks to hasbros mrsp price.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:39 pm

Bumblebee21 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
LE0KING wrote:Again, purchased today at walmart. No price increase.

I'm starting to think that the price increase is mainly in TRU's and online, as the Walmart and Target sightings I've been seeing have had no price increase. Which is similar to the titans return figures, which online and in TRU are like $16.99 but in walmart and target they are still hovering at $14.97

tru sticks to hasbros mrsp price.

Which helps my case that TRU and online are the ones using higher prices while Walmart and Target are using the lower prices

News Credits: 4845 · by **william-james88** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:55 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
LE0KING wrote:Again, purchased today at walmart. No price increase.

I'm starting to think that the price increase is mainly in TRU's and online, as the Walmart and Target sightings I've been seeing have had no price increase. Which is similar to the titans return figures, which online and in TRU are like $16.99 but in walmart and target they are still hovering at $14.97

tru sticks to hasbros mrsp price.

Which helps my case that TRU and online are the ones using higher prices while Walmart and Target are using the lower prices

Yeah, you are both saying the same thing differently. Hasbro's MSRP has gone up, but its only a suggested price. TRU chose to go with it and Hasbro of course is going with it but Walmart and Target arent. What I think, for walmart's case, is that they simply didnt bother to change the price for the classes on their central pricing software or have accepted the loss of having a higher price to pay Hasbro but not wanting to pass it off to the consumer, thinking they will sell enough of these to still make a profit. But my gut feeling (looking at Walmart's international operations, which I know first hand) is that the price will be corrected and increase once they figure out that their cost is not the same.

Could be wrong and if I am, then happy hunting in the US ;)^

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:55 pm

So I was just in contact with the 2 TRU's around my area: to add chaos to the toy street dates, their stock is street dated for May 5, and they are sticking to the "not put them out until this date" line.

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:58 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:So I was just in contact with the 2 TRU's around my area: to add chaos to the toy street dates, their stock is street dated for May 5, and they are sticking to the "not put them out until this date" line.

more chaos
deluxes can sell fine at tru but voyager prime cant be sold tll june 23rd

News Credits: 4845 · by **william-james88** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:59 pm

Bumblebee21 wrote:its doesnt tab in or anything but it does fit.
all i did was tab in the machine gun, take the back pack off,open the doors and then close it around the gun

I see, it is more of a fan mode than a hidden functionality. I thought it pegged in, from the way you were speaking.

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:08 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:its doesnt tab in or anything but it does fit.
all i did was tab in the machine gun, take the back pack off,open the doors and then close it around the gun

I see, it is more of a fan mode than a hidden functionality. I thought it pegged in, from the way you were speaking.

yeah sorry about that, shoulda said it was a fan mode.

News Credits: 4845 · by **william-james88** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:20 pm

Bumblebee21 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:its doesnt tab in or anything but it does fit.
all i did was tab in the machine gun, take the back pack off,open the doors and then close it around the gun

I see, it is more of a fan mode than a hidden functionality. I thought it pegged in, from the way you were speaking.

yeah sorry about that, shoulda said it was a fan mode.

No worries, I am still very happy you shared that, like that fans in thsi thread can do it too

And man, those street dates are all over the place. I like my Walmart's approach best: if they have it in stock, it goes on the shelves :lol:

They really dont seem to want to hold onto anything in a backroom unsold.

News Credits: 2 · by **SpikeyTigertron** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:36 pm

For those saying "just go online" part of the fun for me is "the hunt" which you don't get online. Sure you spend more... but we only get product sets like this once (maybe twice) a year. I think the biggest disappointment (besides the lack of stock at Target/Walmart) is the fact over half of "opening day" is repaints. In comparison to Combiner Wars launch, where I felt like a kid back in the 80s/90s again.

For what it's worth, the difference between Slash and Grimlock are night and day. But I'll admit there's still a charm to AoE Slash's neon colors.