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News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:11 pm

I love the mold for Bludgeon, but not for Gigatron. I can totally pass on this.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:16 pm

Dr. Heavy B wrote:IMLTHO the samari theme of bludgeon dosn't fit overlord well.

besides, didn't they say "NO" to movie-verse figures?

Except the Bludgeon mold only appeared in the comics, and more importantly is not a licensed vehicle. The likes of Mindwipe and Lockdown, who were re-released in a main line (meaning non-movie which the 2010 line was generally speaking), are fair game.

by **Godzillabot Primal** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:17 pm

Not bad, I'd prefer a less movie oriented toy, but I think they pulled it off

Now I'm wondering if ROTF Jetfire is a candidate for the second unit (I know it was female, but look at Galaxy Force/Cybertron Override)

Still, even though my parents gave me permission to go down to Texas I decided to not, as I've none of the other SG toys

News Credits: 5 · by **--B--** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:21 pm

Hmmm, not bad, but not my cup of tea. I don't like it as Overlord, but it is a nice figure and a decent homage.

News Credits: 16 · by **Super Megatron** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:21 pm

MR Optimus Prime wrote:

Wait till you see RID Optimus Prime.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:22 pm

godzillabot wrote:Now I'm wondering if ROTF Jetfire is a candidate for the second unit (I know it was female, but look at Galaxy Force/Cybertron Override)

Too big, licensed vehicle and we're only getting the tank for Gigatron. It's 6 figures, not 7

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:22 pm

Wonder how Hasbro's all new original mold for 2013 Overlord will look compared to this? (sarcasm)

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:32 pm

Rated X wrote:A blue and white Bludgon...wasnt this guy supposed to be a plane ???

What are you saying? Gigatron was supposed to be a plane? Or Bludgeon was supposed to be released as a blue and white plane?

News Credits: 2 · by **F Prime** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:37 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:
Rated X wrote:A blue and white Bludgon...wasnt this guy supposed to be a plane ???

Megatron used to be a gun. But he's also been a plane, a tank, a truck, a dinosaur, and more.

This is Gigatron (the tank component of Overlord), not Megatron.

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Overlord_(Masterforce)

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:50 pm

less enthused than I might have been, but can't complain really. It's better when Botcon toys are nice, but not anything I'm particularly sad about missing out on. Since I never go and can't afford after market prices on them.

News Credits: 1 · by **Blozor** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:08 pm

Ugh. Pass.

Maybe this will inspire a 3rd Party company to do an updated Overlord right Since Hasbro doesn't want to.

News Credits: 3 · by **No One** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:15 pm

Super Megatron wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:

Wait till you see RID Optimus Prime.

?

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:20 pm

although it is a great mold im just not sure its a good pick for gigalord

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:37 pm

Well... There we go, then. I like it.

News Credits: 2 · by **Stockade** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:39 pm

No Sir, I dont like it! They can do better and the Bludgeon mold is cool and all, but come on for goodness sake!!!

by **Godzillabot Primal** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:14 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
godzillabot wrote:Now I'm wondering if ROTF Jetfire is a candidate for the second unit (I know it was female, but look at Galaxy Force/Cybertron Override)

Too big, licensed vehicle and we're only getting the tank for Gigatron. It's 6 figures, not 7

Forgot, sorry! I'm thinking the Metalhawk could be a remold of Scourge (and yes I know all the hubbub about him being either Leozack or Ratbat)

by **Skullcrunchberries** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:15 pm

I'm... genuinely surprised. I never thought they'd use a movie mold; wasn't there supposed to be some copyright issues with that?

Beyond that though, I'm pretty happy with the choice. Now if only they could do some kind of partner for him out of the Universe 2.0 Silverbolt mold to accomodate Overlord's plane half...

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:19 pm

Hoitytoity wrote:I'm... genuinely surprised. I never thought they'd use a movie mold; wasn't there supposed to be some copyright issues with that?

Any non-licensed vehicle mode is fair game.

by **dinogeist** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:19 pm

I only like this enough to pay $20 for at at retail stores & pay no other addittional fees like shipping.

I don't like this enough to pay up to $75 to $100+ for this. then have to pay another $8 to $10 in shipping fees.

Anyways from my personal opinnion this looks horrible. masterforce overlord was a duo-con with 2 alt modes. to select only one of overlord's alt modes & turn it into a robot is kinda lacking.

no thanks,i don't like paying 5 times over retail prices for repaints. If I gotta shell out this big money,then it better be a 3rd party 100% new mold.

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:36 pm

I hope the Transformers PRIME team were paying close attention to that video. It even had an authentic G1 inaccuracy: Starscream using Skywarp's teleportation ability. If only Grimlock had swung his tail inbetween Starscream's legs then it might have just been cringe-worthy enough to make me :BOOM:

With regards to the figure, Overlord was going to be the deal maker on this set and having now seen it I'm pleased to say I'm out! Quite a cheap and lazy attempt in my opinion.

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:41 pm

The colors and homage to the tank mode really look nice. The head looks good too. Not real tickled with the bot mode. It isn't terrible and I can't think of a more fitting mold to use really. It is a bit more samurai looking than I would have hoped though, for this character at least. I'd be interested if Headrobots came along and produced a new chest piece and weapons. Their blood kit did wonders for Bludgeon IMO.

by **dinogeist** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:01 pm

Flux Convoy wrote:The colors and homage to the tank mode really look nice. The head looks good too. Not real tickled with the bot mode. It isn't terrible and I can't think of a more fitting mold to use really. It is a bit more samurai looking than I would have hoped though, for this character at least. I'd be interested if Headrobots came along and produced a new chest piece and weapons. Their blood kit did wonders for Bludgeon IMO.

thus far no 3rd party company has made powermasters/godmasters/chest pieces because it's impossible to find spots on the liscensed TF bigger toy to accomodate room for a engine in alt mode & in robot mode.

to create a 3rd party powermaster,they'd have to be a port connecting system on the 3rd party power master. and some kind of connecting port on the liscensed bigger TF toy.

at best some AEC toys with minicon ports created by hasbro might be able to accomodate a 3rd party powermaster accessory.

sadly i read a few threads here in the past month. that these 3rd party companies are not willing to copy any minicon styled ports because hasbro/takara might sue them for stealing & using their minicon port designs.

i don't think these 3rd party companies would create new bigger robot parts like a hollow engine cavity,new bigger robot chest hollow engine cavity or port system. at best i think the budget of some of these 3rd party companies are only willing to create the powermaster/godmaster & that's it.

by **dinogeist** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:08 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Hoitytoity wrote:I'm... genuinely surprised. I never thought they'd use a movie mold; wasn't there supposed to be some copyright issues with that?

Any non-licensed vehicle mode is fair game.

Just to add to this,also any movie verse toy that didn;t appear in the movie "might" be fair game & can be used as a botcon convention/club toy.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:17 pm

Tidalwavex wrote:
at best some AEC toys with minicon ports created by hasbro might be able to accomodate a 3rd party powermaster accessory.

sadly i read a few threads here in the past month. that these 3rd party companies are not willing to copy any minicon styled ports because hasbro/takara might sue them for stealing & using their minicon port designs.

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no, you didn't. I speculated that this might be why no 3rd party products have used the system. I have no actual knowledge of either copyright law, or the various 3rd party toy companies decision processes.