The Energon Pub

Oh man, Kreo Swindle! As much as I liked Legos when I was a kid (and, quite frankly still do, but I don't still buy them often), none of the Kreo stuff has caught my eye until now. That Swindle is just too good to pass up!

I still can't get behind the blue limbs on Jazz though, it just doesn't have the same aesthetic. *shrug* I DO however like Optimus quite a lot; it reminds me of the War Within design, which only got the terrible Titanium figure which I haven't bothered to pick up. This makes me happy that they're re-using the basic design.

As for FOC Bruticus, I don't hate it, quite frankly I have no issues with the color scheme. If I have an issues, it's the weird lankyness, but I'm holding off judgement until we have an in-hand review.

Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!

Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.

Burn wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!

Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.

They'd hate me. Total teetotaler. I'm a water guy. I've even cut soda out of my diet.

I'd totally love to see one or more of them either hungover or slightly intoxicated and go to the panel. The questions. Ohh...the questions.

I'm no better really. Might have a drink once or twice a year.

Friend Delicon on Facebook and help me and robofreak spam his wall. We'll make it a new BotCon tradition for the staff who didn't make it there.

DISCHARGE wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote: So far seems like the lamest botcon ever, well news wise anyway.

I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure the people there are having fun, but there isn't the fanfare there usually is. I think squashing 3rd parties out really
broke some of the fun of what should be a big party.

On to the figures. I only checked out the FOC stuff, all the other stuff is really uninteresting. I like 'em all so far. Jazz is winning in the new toy dept, for me at least. I don't even care about the colors on Bruticus, it's a kids toy first and he looks like fun. Prime has grown on me and Shockwave, well, hes' definitely the weakest of the bunch (that last bit is sarcasm)

you like jazz over shockwave?

i think i like shockwave a bit more.. and i really want to get my hands on the new prime.

i just wish jazz had a little darker blue, and more red.

Burn wrote:I'm no better really. Might have a drink once or twice a year.

Friend Delicon on Facebook and help me and robofreak spam his wall. We'll make it a new BotCon tradition for the staff who didn't make it there.

Heh.

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Now, for TF Prime, why did they give Bumblebee a Leader/Weaponizer whatever class and not Megatron!? Why do they keep doing this!? No one wants big ass Bumblebees, we want Optimus and Megatron! If you're going to make a leader sized Optimus, why not make a Megatron that size as well? It makes no sense.

Kids want him. You know ... the ones these things are created for?

Well, they should release more Decepticons for more...troubled kids such as myself.

FOC Combaticons/Bruticus really, really need better colors. I mean, all the other Fall of Cybertron (and War for Cybertron) figures seem to match their game colors and models pretty impressively well. I've no idea why Hasbro just suddenly changed it up and/or dropped the ball here.

The models/sculpts for them on the other hand, I like. Well, mostly. Some of them look like they could use a little touching up, and I would like it if Onslaught were at least a little bigger (a very large deluxe if not just a voyager). Of course the Combaticons scale has never made all that much sense. I mean, Blast-Off is a freaking space shuttle. Those things are massive.

Really I'd be very happy with the Combaticons if they just gave them their proper colors and made them look better as Bruticus. It'd be nice if they cleaned up the connectors, but I can get past that if it just leads to a good looking Bruticus.

As for the other Generations/FOC figures, Shockwave looks amazing to me. Hands down the best Shockwave figure I've ever seen. Also I'm hoping there's a pseudo-blaster mode for added G1 awesome. I kind of like Jazz, I'm not big on all of the wheels, but overall the sculpt looks pretty good in both modes. The issue seems to just be that he looks very bland, which some added paint apps could very well fix. Optimus I'm just not sure about. The one shown on display in this gallery actually looks pretty nice, and was making me lean towards making him a must-buy. Then I noticed that the one being displayed in the packaging doesn't look nearly as good. Wondering which will be the retail version, and assuming it will be the less impressive looking in-package one. If it does, however, turn out to be the shinier, more detailed(?), red-autobrand version, I'll surely pick it up.

FOC: I like Blast Off, Brawl, Shockwave, and OP a lot, so I'm definitely getting those. I'll probably get the rest of the Combaticons as well.

Prime: Voyager Megatron,Optimus, Starscream, Dreadwing and deluxe Soundwave, Cliffjumper, Wheeljack, and Vehicon are all on my list. The Weaponizers Prime looks a little bulky, I'll have to see it in person, but I'll only consider buying it if Megatron gets a Weaponizer class. And I'm really wondering if Bumblebee is still so popular among kids that they will want another Leader-ish size? I have cousin, who is eight, and he is more interested in the big truck Transformers. I've had to transform his Leader ROTF OP and DOTM Sentinel for him and I know he also has HFTD SS, Ultimate OP, and Ironhide. He may have a Leader Bumblebee he got for Christmas or something, but he seems far more interested in the big trucks and jet. Does anyone else have any kids or around any that really love Bumblebee? Just curious.

I guess I had better start saving up some money...

Are these "new deluxes" still looking undersized? Please say it ain't so.

I could actually deal with the $14.99 MSRP if they are all still in scale with previous Universe/Generations figures.

On a positive note, I LOVE the new, more prominent character art on the Generations packaging.

TimothyR wrote:

DISCHARGE wrote:
On to the figures. I only checked out the FOC stuff, all the other stuff is really uninteresting. I like 'em all so far. Jazz is winning in the new toy dept, for me at least. I don't even care about the colors on Bruticus, it's a kids toy first and he looks like fun. Prime has grown on me and Shockwave, well, hes' definitely the weakest of the bunch (that last bit is sarcasm)

you like jazz over shockwave?

i think i like shockwave a bit more.. and i really want to get my hands on the new prime.

i just wish jazz had a little darker blue, and more red.

Shockwave is Shockwave, I expect him to be cool.
But I don't often like the looks of Autobot toys. This Jazz toy really gives me a vibe of what he would have looked like before his G1 persona. I seriously can imagine him in the heat of battle and he's got some metal, techno or gangsta rap blasting in the background.
When I first peeked his image a while back, he just looked strange, unJazzlike, interesting.
Almost like they'd made him look as if made for the Titaniums line.
I really anticipate him looking good next to Titaniums Prowl(even if he will be a tad smaller).

I don't get hung up an scale or minor coloring issues.

Burn wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!

Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.

Tis true, I am an eyewitness.

Shockwave actually looks pretty good in bot mode, but his alt mode is pants. Looks like I'm gonna save a LOT of money on new Transformers this year! I really wish Hasbro would make some toys that people want. Nix the Kre-o and Prime crap!

Welp, everything in the product display that we didn't already know about looks crap. So you guys gonna scream and shout about the First Editions or are you just going to sit on your hands? Seriously, if they don't give us any word on this I'll be pissed. Somebody throw a tomato for me will ya?

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!

Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.

Tis true, I am an eyewitness.

I presume you have video ...

oh hell yes, I'm getting all those FOC toys! ALL OF THEM! i hope there is a megatron. and i was hoping that they would show the starscream figure.

Gandalf wrote:Are these "new deluxes" still looking undersized? Please say it ain't so.

I am afraid so. That's what people at botcon is saying at tfw2005. They are more like big scouts than deluxes. It's kind of bs marketing to call them "deluxes". So far, only foc shocks seems good in my opinion, although the shrunken size kind turns me off. I would pay more to have the old size back, not the same to have it smaller... What I really fear is to see this new "deluxe" in classics generations line. I don't want figures like blurr and kup looking like monster trucks near the new ones. That would be sad. HasTak is really getting cheap. Seriously, even "voyagers" are coming with ball joints for shoulders and hips connections (compare that to old voyagers like mindwipe, seaspray or even skyhammer...). This botcon so far is just making me spend money with 3rd party and bandai...

Those are the finalized colors for the Combaticons, correct? They certainly look better than the first original pictures. That combined rifle of his though... displaying him WITHOUT that. Looks really ridiculous on him.

Oh yeah, and does anyone mind sending me scans of that comic? Looks like a real good eye-opener!

Burn wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!

Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.

Tis true, I am an eyewitness.

I presume you have video ...

There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!

Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.

Tis true, I am an eyewitness.

I presume you have video ...

There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.

Ask them about the unreleased 2008 hotel room video

Geekee1 wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!

Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.

Tis true, I am an eyewitness.

I presume you have video ...

There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.

Ask them about the unreleased 2008 hotel room video

Jesus, what wondrous shenanigans happened there...?

Mindmaster wrote:

Geekee1 wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!

Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.

Tis true, I am an eyewitness.

I presume you have video ...

There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.

Ask them about the unreleased 2008 hotel room video

Jesus, what wondrous shenanigans happened there...?

Two words - Piston Fistin'... ask Christian.

Geekee1 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Geekee1 wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Burn wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!

Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.

Tis true, I am an eyewitness.

I presume you have video ...

There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.

Ask them about the unreleased 2008 hotel room video

Jesus, what wondrous shenanigans happened there...?

Two words - Piston Fistin'... ask Christian.

Y'know, I don't think I wanna know anymore...

FoC Jazz