The Energon Pub

Own all previous seeker molds.
Pass.
Don't need a new TC mold.

I can't afford MPs anyway. Cheap-ass alert.

PrimeStriker wrote:I can't afford MPs anyway. Cheap-ass alert.

I prefer the term "financially selective" myself, as it says that my budget is nobody's business.

And it also why I have to be extremely selective on what I purchase, too.

Seeing as how they cancelled this in the UK and I will be in the US in December I will pick one up! Gonna need a large suitcase.

Not really understanding all the complaining about the price for this. $70 for a MASTERPIECE mold that was very recently released by Takara for almost double the cost. Not to mention we finally get a Hasbro MP Thundercracker...using the new superior mold no less!

This is a awesome deal, and I am grateful for it!

Good luck trying to find these on clearance guys.

I'm gonna try and get this guy since I don't have a Thundercracker but MP Prime is a top priority. I do hope we get a proper release of the new Starscream at some point with cape and crown.

Fistful of Energon wrote:Not really understanding all the complaining about the price for this. $70 for a MASTERPIECE mold that was very recently released by Takara for almost double the cost. Not to mention we finally get a Hasbro MP Thundercracker...using the new superior mold no less!

This is a awesome deal, and I am grateful for it!

Good luck trying to find these on clearance guys.

I 100% agree on this. The price is affordable, in my opinion, for an MP new version of the seekers. I've been waiting for this one for a while now. Can't wait to get it. I'll bet it will sell quick too. Seems the more complaints that come with new figs, the quicker it goes.....


And thanks to Lost Cybertronian for for the comparison pic.....Now I can breathe a sigh of relief........

headsortails wrote:

Fistful of Energon wrote:Not really understanding all the complaining about the price for this. $70 for a MASTERPIECE mold that was very recently released by Takara for almost double the cost. Not to mention we finally get a Hasbro MP Thundercracker...using the new superior mold no less!

This is a awesome deal, and I am grateful for it!

Good luck trying to find these on clearance guys.

I 100% agree on this. The price is affordable, in my opinion, for an MP new version of the seekers. I've been waiting for this one for a while now. Can't wait to get it. I'll bet it will sell quick too. Seems the more complaints that come with new figs, the quicker it goes.....


And thanks to Lost Cybertronian for for the comparison pic.....Now I can breathe a sigh of relief........

I agree on behalf of those who either buy Hasbro only or not brand specific. And I wish that the complainers soon realize that the increase of price may mean an increase of production quality... As these items are produced in one of their Asian production factories.

As for the pricing of the Takara Tomy MPs, I have to say that the production quality and packaging is better. And adding import costs, as well as the Yen to Dollar aspect, a more hardcore collector is getting his monies worth with their line.

This is never goin on clearance at TRU man. Geoffrey would rather stick his neck in a woodchipper than clearance MP TFs. So few will ship, I highly doubt there'll be a store with a glut, that doesn't get raided by db scalpers.

I'm not complaining on the price, esp. since Rodimus was $70. The one that pissed me off was the SDCC excl. FOC Bruticus at $100. If it were $75 I might have jumped, but 100? Horse*&%$. It's probably a moot point since the Hasbro line was the worst I've ever seen in 7 yrs. I knew people who waited 3+ hrs. for just the ticket to get in the line, who didn't get in. By the time people got in, days later, everything was sold out. All bitterness in this post justified? Absolutely.

vectorA3 wrote:This is never goin on clearance at TRU man. Geoffrey would rather stick his neck in a woodchipper than clearance MP TFs. So few will ship, I highly doubt there'll be a store with a glut, that doesn't get raided by db scalpers.

I'm not complaining on the price, esp. since Rodimus was $70. The one that pissed me off was the SDCC excl. FOC Bruticus at $100. If it were $75 I might have jumped, but 100? Horse*&%$. It's probably a moot point since the Hasbro line was the worst I've ever seen in 7 yrs. I knew people who waited 3+ hrs. for just the ticket to get in the line, who didn't get in. By the time people got in, days later, everything was sold out. All bitterness in this post justified? Absolutely.

Seriously. How is the ranting of a person who hates something that he cannot control "justified"?

I mean... Should I bitch about people like you with the same level of regard you gave these two companies and call it just that? How about the fact that I might be spending the same amount of money to have my collection graded, as it cost me to get it in the first place? Should I hate AFA for their increase just because I'd like to pay less?

Point is that these items do go down in price if they do not sell well. My Toys"R"Us, when I liked going there, has numerous MPs and Commemorative sets go on clearance. And the SDCC exclusive? You do understand that they pay to be there and it is not cheap, right? So those who paid that $100 paid $15 per figure, plus another $5 per figure just for the exclusiveness of the item.

So yeah... Where is the "justification" when getting angry will just stress you out, as well as sour the enjoyment of doing this kind of collecting? Because if you do not like the needed increase or price, then what does that say about your collection in the future? You need to think about that.

Because for me, I finally found something worth collecting. And while I do not like the prices I pay, as well as the fees tied to AFA, I do it because the only "justice" is either having the reason to pay said "premium" or not and enjoy what I have. And this is after 15+ years of trying to find my "collecting groove."

Besides the price and the likelihood of finding exclusives on clearance -the bulk of that bitterness was toward how poorly Hasbro handled their line. They had the most demand that they've ever had & as I'd said, the people waited in line 3-4 hrs. for the "time to go" tickets and STILL did not get in.
It's your choice to get your figures graded - even at a premium. Just as I passed on the BS "premium" price of the SDCC FOC Bruticus.
Lastly -please show me the TRU where MP Grimlock and or Rodimus went on clearance. What did they cost? Need to see that to believe it. The other big box retailers clearance much more frequently than TRU - so the frustration/bitterness is toward TRU for not following suit. Example: SW EPIII figures being clearanced finally after 2 yrs.

vectorA3 wrote:Besides the price and the likelihood of finding exclusives on clearance -the bulk of that bitterness was toward how poorly Hasbro handled their line. They had the most demand that they've ever had & as I'd said, the people waited in line 3-4 hrs. for the "time to go" tickets and STILL did not get in.
It's your choice to get your figures graded - even at a premium. Just as I passed on the BS "premium" price of the SDCC FOC Bruticus.
Lastly -please show me the TRU where MP Grimlock and or Rodimus went on clearance. What did they cost? Need to see that to believe it. The other big box retailers clearance much more frequently than TRU - so the frustration/bitterness is toward TRU for not following suit. Example: SW EPIII figures being clearanced finally after 2 yrs.

Let me simplify this: I have no love for either company. Nor do I have love for SDCC. Especially since Anime Expo in 2007 was better organized and cheaper than SDCC. So when it comes to me, lets say I am completely neutral on the subject.

So with SDCC version, its price is based on the following elements: The regular price + the additional cost to cover their SDCC booth costs. And with SDCC, I have read that their booth spaces are overpriced for what they are. So since they want to be there, they need to cover that and still make money.

Then again... Your complaint is part of the many issues tied to SDCC, and not just Hasbro. Plus, I heard other stories that make that issue sound mild.

As for Toys"R"Us, I used to work at the one closest to me. And from what I was told, your beef is not their fault. Blame their higher ups. But, then again, I stopped buying TFs because the last two I bought had the same QC issues, and both were different lines. That, and I find these stores to be uninspiring and make shopping online a better option.

But with the attitude towards the price and company, let me say that it is a poor move to obsess, much less get angry over such things. If the price is greater than your need, move on and allow somebody who feels differently buy it. You are the potential buyer, not a owner of the company. And when it comes to the things you collect, it should be about why you want it... Not why you skipped something you did not want because of its price.

In other words - Skip the talks of how they price their stuff, and enjoy what you do have. If you disagree with the price, then do not buy it. Just say that the price did not justify your need, and allow others to do business with them. And I say this because you are souring your time hating something you know nothing about, opposed to just using that time planning and creating a collection that says "This is me. This is what I like."

And if you cannot do that because Hasbro had a justifiable reason you do not know, then you might as well try to find something that will support your emotional and physical health... As they say that nothing is worth bitching about.

vectorA3 wrote:Besides the price and the likelihood of finding exclusives on clearance -the bulk of that bitterness was toward how poorly Hasbro handled their line. They had the most demand that they've ever had & as I'd said, the people waited in line 3-4 hrs. for the "time to go" tickets and STILL did not get in.
It's your choice to get your figures graded - even at a premium. Just as I passed on the BS "premium" price of the SDCC FOC Bruticus.
Lastly -please show me the TRU where MP Grimlock and or Rodimus went on clearance. What did they cost? Need to see that to believe it. The other big box retailers clearance much more frequently than TRU - so the frustration/bitterness is toward TRU for not following suit. Example: SW EPIII figures being clearanced finally after 2 yrs.

Hasbro still did that "ticket" thing for their exclusives at SDCC? In 2007 at the Con, they set it up to where you had to find their people standing in various places with a box of tickets. You had to have one to get the exclusives, but they would not tell you where they would be standing.........just give a "round about" time in which they would start handing them out. It was chaotic. I got mine by picking up some off the floor.......it was like a piranha frenzy when someone all of the sudden yelled "get your Hasbro tickets here. I was able to grab a bunch and hand to those who weren't able to get any.....

headsortails wrote:

vectorA3 wrote:Besides the price and the likelihood of finding exclusives on clearance -the bulk of that bitterness was toward how poorly Hasbro handled their line. They had the most demand that they've ever had & as I'd said, the people waited in line 3-4 hrs. for the "time to go" tickets and STILL did not get in.
It's your choice to get your figures graded - even at a premium. Just as I passed on the BS "premium" price of the SDCC FOC Bruticus.
Lastly -please show me the TRU where MP Grimlock and or Rodimus went on clearance. What did they cost? Need to see that to believe it. The other big box retailers clearance much more frequently than TRU - so the frustration/bitterness is toward TRU for not following suit. Example: SW EPIII figures being clearanced finally after 2 yrs.

Hasbro still did that "ticket" thing for their exclusives at SDCC? In 2007 at the Con, they set it up to where you had to find their people standing in various places with a box of tickets. You had to have one to get the exclusives, but they would not tell you where they would be standing.........just give a "round about" time in which they would start handing them out. It was chaotic. I got mine by picking up some off the floor.......it was like a piranha frenzy when someone all of the sudden yelled "get your Hasbro tickets here. I was able to grab a bunch and hand to those who weren't able to get any.....

Wow, an Easter Egg hunt? That sounded like fun.

If it means anything, yes, MP Rodimus did go on clearance in Asia. It's still at the major TRUs up to this date. It's now $64US, orgi. $144US. Got mine while it was $80, and I should not have. Arms broke off. The horror.

has anyone seen the ebay listings for mp tc seriously
be grateful youre getting a domestic release because otherwise youd get cleaned out for the takara version. and to think i got him at a flea market for 85 sheesh

gavinfuzzy wrote:If it means anything, yes, MP Rodimus did go on clearance in Asia. It's still at the major TRUs up to this date. It's now $64US, orgi. $144US. Got mine while it was $80, and I should not have. Arms broke off. The horror.

I feel for you. I cannot tell you how heart-breaking it is to buy something you really want, and either have the box be damaged, figure break, or even find out that it either has a missing piece... Or a double of one piece. As I think you know how it feels.

alternator77 wrote:has anyone seen the ebay listings for mp tc seriously
be grateful youre getting a domestic release because otherwise youd get cleaned out for the takara version. and to think i got him at a flea market for 85 sheesh

Agreed. Because despite the number of reasons a Takara/Takara Tomy MISB versions of the Masterpiece line is so much more collectible... When it comes eBay, sellers tend to jack the price on virtually anything that is highly collectible. And a good example includes the C-108 Artfire that I assume is still for sale there.

Besides, that is a very nice price you have gotten him for. The luckiest I had gotten was with the MISB "Welcome to Transformers 2010" Predaking, which I had gotten for $170.

Hasbro's Toys"R"Us exclusive Masterpiece Thundercracker has been released! Seibertron.com member formula93 dropped by to let us know he purchased the highly anticipated figure from a Kansas Toys"R"Us location. Happy hunting!

At last he is finally here! Let the search begin!

But something may be suspicious but yet confusing. If TC has no Coronation accessories, then why is he a redeco of the retooled SS (MP-11)? Looks like Hasbro forgot to not yet expose their version of MP-11, just like how they forgot to make their Skywarp was supposed to have red optics instead of yellow.

Does anyone have a vague idea when Prime is expected to be released???


The last I saw indicated Thundercracker was due out September-October with Prime to follow in November-December. If Thundercracker moved up will Prime do the same?

St. Even wrote:Does anyone have a vague idea when Prime is expected to be released???


The last I saw indicated Thundercracker was due out September-October with Prime to follow in November-December. If Thundercracker moved up will Prime do the same?

Please make it so!

St. Even wrote:Does anyone have a vague idea when Prime is expected to be released???


The last I saw indicated Thundercracker was due out September-October with Prime to follow in November-December. If Thundercracker moved up will Prime do the same?

I thought Prime was supposed to come out first and I heard late August.

BBTS doesn't have him up yet, hopefully they will soon. I don't wanna miss this one.

XDMan wrote:At last he is finally here! Let the search begin!

But something may be suspicious but yet confusing. If TC has no Coronation accessories, then why is he a redeco of the retooled SS (MP-11)?

Because it's a better tooling of the mold, period.

And once again, Québec is screwed.

Bah, I already have the first model of Starscream twice so it's not like I need this in my life.