The Energon Pub

Pretender Skywarp wrote:I don't collect Beast Era stuff personally, but would hav gladly made an exception for these if they hadn't been at the Voyager price point.

Did we ever find out why?

The deluxe price point has changed, the figures have become smaller. 3 of these figures (excluding Axalon) are just a lot more plastic than the average deluxe figure now. Axalon is priced like regular deluxes because he's not as large as the others.

Takara is charging too much for these, but they also don't have a price point between deluxe and voyager at this time. Same goes for the Scout class two packs which they're charging too much for.

Nice galleries... but pass on all of them since I already own the original molds.

Seibertron wrote:

Pretender Skywarp wrote:I don't collect Beast Era stuff personally, but would hav gladly made an exception for these if they hadn't been at the Voyager price point.

Did we ever find out why?

The deluxe price point has changed, the figures have become smaller. 3 of these figures (excluding Axalon) are just a lot more plastic than the average deluxe figure now. Axalon is priced like regular deluxes because he's not as large as the others.

Takara is charging too much for these, but they also don't have a price point between deluxe and voyager at this time. Same goes for the Scout class two packs which they're charging too much for.

It was the Axalon, still being carded that confused me the most! I'd forgotten about the scout 2pks, not that it stopped my dropping the cash on Rumble and Frenzy!

What does a Takara deluxe retail at in Japan then?

trence5 wrote:Quick question folks - can anyone tell me if this:

image

figure's head will on a Classics Optimus PRime mold?






thank you

I don't think a Deluxe's head on a Voyager's body would look all that good.

Pretender Skywarp wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Pretender Skywarp wrote:I don't collect Beast Era stuff personally, but would hav gladly made an exception for these if they hadn't been at the Voyager price point.

Did we ever find out why?

The deluxe price point has changed, the figures have become smaller. 3 of these figures (excluding Axalon) are just a lot more plastic than the average deluxe figure now. Axalon is priced like regular deluxes because he's not as large as the others.

Takara is charging too much for these, but they also don't have a price point between deluxe and voyager at this time. Same goes for the Scout class two packs which they're charging too much for.

It was the Axalon, still being carded that confused me the most! I'd forgotten about the scout 2pks, not that it stopped my dropping the cash on Rumble and Frenzy!

What does a Takara deluxe retail at in Japan then?

These prices all come from e-Hobby:

United Deluxes retail for 2,125 Yen or 2,587 Yen and "Voyagers" for 3,326 Yen. Meanwhile, Arms Micron Deluxes are 1,848 Yen and Arms Micron Voyagers are 3,696 Yen.

As you can see, TakaraTomy has a pretty liberal pricing system between lines.

Sabrblade wrote:

alternator77 wrote:well with the foc figures and these guys that makes 12 of the promised 40 figs for generations
cant wait to see the other 28

How do you figure? These are Japanese toys for the United toyline, not Generations. And, we already got these toy molds in the Energon, Cybertron, and Beast Wars 10th Anniversary toylines.

sarcasm doesnt register well here sorry

but you kind of made my point we've seen these at least 3 times but the kiddies havent. and hasbro has the tendency of following takaras lead so it just wouldnt suprose me if we saw these released again at some point we did get 2 cyclonus and 2 versions of rodimus not to mention rts bb and his original classics counterpart, as well as the legacy of bb 3 pack.and those molds are fairly recent compared to these 4.

Sabrblade wrote:

trence5 wrote:Quick question folks - can anyone tell me if this:

image

figure's head will on a Classics Optimus PRime mold?






thank you

I don't think a Deluxe's head on a Voyager's body would look all that good.

damn, its a deluxe. Ok thanx for the answer. I gotta a custom in mind in this style of "not quite Prime" Optimus looking head would be perfect for. Is there a voyager version of this figure any way?

the original one was big. maybe a bit bigger than voyager sized though. It's been a long time since I had one in-hand. head isn't really the same though.

trence5 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

trence5 wrote:Quick question folks - can anyone tell me if this:

image

figure's head will on a Classics Optimus PRime mold?






thank you

I don't think a Deluxe's head on a Voyager's body would look all that good.

damn, its a deluxe. Ok thanx for the answer. I gotta a custom in mind in this style of "not quite Prime" Optimus looking head would be perfect for. Is there a voyager version of this figure any way?

The only Voyager (or rather, Mega) class-sized Optimus Primal molds there are the Transmetal Optimus Primal toy:


And the Blast Punch Optimus Primal toy:



Oh, and there's also the BotCon 2006 Timelines "Dawn of Future's Past" Axalon Optimus Primal, which is a remold of the Cybertron Voyager Crumplezone figure.

craggy wrote:the original one was big. maybe a bit bigger than voyager sized though. It's been a long time since I had one in-hand. head isn't really the same though.

The original was an Ultra, which is larger than Voyager.

Counterpunch wrote:

Blurrz wrote:Cyber Keys make me sick...

Insert key into ass...unleash projectile.

I didn't think I'd have anything remotely like that happen to me anytime soon.. but alas, karma.

I'm glad to have passed on them all. Primal has no more deco than the previous release. Less even. I can't believe they added more deco to the useless surfboard over the actual figure. Megatron looks ok but nothing to make me replace what I feel is the superior deco from BW Anniversary. Axalon does nothing for me. I got exactly what I wanted from the mold from Botcon. This deco was just boring IMO. Finally, Unicron. I'm reminded I should sell the Cybertron version I already own. The only reason I haven't is that he's part of the club fiction in that form. I thought it was an okay figure for that time but that ship sailed. There have been better. This was no improvement.

Sabrblade wrote:

craggy wrote:the original one was big. maybe a bit bigger than voyager sized though. It's been a long time since I had one in-hand. head isn't really the same though.

The original was an Ultra, which is larger than Voyager.

Hate to correct you there, but the Ultras of yesteryear are today's Voyagers. I have my Universe 2003 Optimus Primal next to my Cybertron Galaxy Force Vector Prime, and they're the same size.