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SPOILERS AHEAD!

Read it yesterday and really dug it.

I was wondering how a normal person was able to take down Bumblebee with ease. I was floored to discover that someone is mass producing Megatron guns.

And I've got to say I really like Don's redesign for Frenzy & Rumbles. I've liked those characters but this is the first time I've seen them as dangerous. Wicked design.

Man, I'm really excited about "Revenge of the Decepitcons."

As much as I would LIKE to like this series, I just cannot keep interested. The story just isn't good enough to be carried by mediocre-to-downright-bad art...Yes, I am looking RIGHT at you, Don! I bought a few issues during the time when Don wasn't doing the art and was just struck with the total "meh" of the story...Some of the ideas are nice, but I just cannot get into it!

Now that Don and his BSC art is back, I am just plain done with Ongoing.

Too bad.

Supreme Convoy wrote:I was floored to discover that someone is mass producing Megatron guns.

You should be "floored". It's a plot twist that makes no damn sense at all. Of course, crafting plot twists that make no damn sense at all is what Costa's (sadly) known for, so on that level, I don't know why you would be surprised at all.

Well, could it be a forum where logical criticism of the ongoing wreck can be discussed without the risk of getting mobbed torn limb from limb by the fans who like it?

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, could it be a forum where logical criticism of the ongoing wreck can be discussed without the risk of getting mobbed torn limb from limb by the fans who like it?

Yes, but make sure that you explain why you dislike something. Simply saying "it sucks" isn't a good enough reason.

.....umm, Optimus - you really need to look into getting an upgrade.... like NOW!!

trence5 wrote:#-o .....umm, Optimus - you really need to look into getting an upgrade.... like NOW!!

What can I say?
It is in no way related to any G1 at all anymore...
Give it a new title, let the 2,5 people that still buy and read this enjoy it and start or pick up a G1 series that everybody can relate to.
This is getting way out of hand...
Hasbro should have stepped up or, like with so many things, they just don't care as long as the title 'Transformers' is out there...
This is not G1 to me...

Angelus wrote:

trence5 wrote:#-o .....umm, Optimus - you really need to look into getting an upgrade.... like NOW!!

What can I say?
It is in no way related to any G1 at all anymore...
Give it a new title, let the 2,5 people that still buy and read this enjoy it and start or pick up a G1 series that everybody can relate to.
This is getting way out of hand...
Hasbro should have stepped up or, like with so many things, they just don't care as long as the title 'Transformers' is out there...
This is not G1 to me...

Megatrons new look I like, as it is a step out of the eternal G1 looks.

Too bad they forced the Witwickys into this continuity, I liked the IDWverse better before them. On second thought, it is a funny parallel, that the helper of G1 autobots was a builder, while the IDW equivalent is a soldier. Could sign the approach of the writers.

As for the issue: DULL SURPRISE! The art was bad, and having half the pages full with humans showing dull surprise without a decent dialogue didn't help either.
This issue was weak. The autobots didn't place a single guard beside the captured decepticons, and there is only four-five autobots at the base (in the same room)?
Smokescreen could have been anybody, and when I read Costas writing, I can't imagine the bots having more than one "voice" - they all have the same characteristics.

That is the dumbest version of megatron I think I've ever seen.

Supreme Convoy wrote:Instead of listing things you don't like about comic, what do you want to see in the ongoing?

Every once in a while, there's a glimmer of hope, a little piece in the story that if it was given half a chance, could blossom into a story that would knock our socks of. Ok, so it's no secret that I am the eternal optimist who wants this series to succeed, but I'm really starting to reach out kinda desperately here. I want to like this, and it's just not manifesting the way I need it to - the way that will make this series a classic - in 20 years, how are we going to remember Ongoing? Mediocre and lackluster and un-exciting and (ugh) Don's art - Don, you are better than this.

The mass produced Megatron gun portion of the story, to me, is a pretty sinister plot twist. Soundwave talking humans into killing Autobots - that's a little scary too. I'm pretty tired of Transformers as hired military muscle for various world dictatorships. I'm tired of Autobots downgraded to cave dwellers at the mercy of the U.S. Government. I'm tired of roving Decepticons who don't really do much or pose much of a threat. It's like the whole of the Transformers on earth are depressed or something. Give me Autobots vs. Decepticons. Give me one good knock down, drag out battle scene where someone gets beat - by another robot. What, LSOTW wasn't a big enough hint as to what the fans want?

Stormwolf wrote:

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, could it be a forum where logical criticism of the ongoing wreck can be discussed without the risk of getting mobbed torn limb from limb by the fans who like it?

Yes, but make sure that you explain why you dislike something. Simply saying "it sucks" isn't a good enough reason.

God! Thank you! How are we supposed to know what people like/don't like if you don't have something to say about it? You just can't be afraid to throw out your opinions on something - and for God's sake, don't just agree with what others are saying! What's the point of having a discussion if no one discusses anything? While I don't agree with ripping someone apart for having a thought, don't let that discourage you from voicing what you think! Besides, keep in mind that we're trying to get through IDW's thick skulls (* oh, is that yet another example of me being too optimistic? * )to get some things changed for the better.

Sometimes things just don't get changed until everyone is pissed!

Hey guys. I read most of the negative comments here, and although others have already spoken out on IDW's forums about their opinions on the ongoing, I also did the same here:
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=9024.

Feel free to chime in with your opinions (negative or positive), as I feel IDW needs to know how the fandom feels about their series. I decided to register on their forums just to let them know this is going all wrong... in my opinion.

Hans wrote:Hey guys. I read most of the negative comments here, and although others have already spoken out on IDW's forums about their opinions on the ongoing, I also did the same here:
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=9024.

Feel free to chime in with your opinions (negative or positive), as I feel IDW needs to know how the fandom feels about their series. I decided to register on their forums just to let them know this is going all wrong... in my opinion.

Good job, Hans! IDW does need to know how we feel. Either they make some changes, or they're going to lose Ongoing - which would make me very sad. I've been the cheerleader for 14 issues now and it's hard to keep up the positive when there's nothing to cheer about. It's past time for an exciting, dynamic, edge-of-your-seat kind of story that will have us all breathless and wanting more. I'm gonna just have to let IDW have it - even though you've already said it best!

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:That is the dumbest version of megatron I think I've ever seen.

whaaa....?!? This version of Megatron looks like he could take out Galvatron by himself!!!

Stormer wrote:

Hans wrote:Hey guys. I read most of the negative comments here, and although others have already spoken out on IDW's forums about their opinions on the ongoing, I also did the same here:
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=9024.

Feel free to chime in with your opinions (negative or positive), as I feel IDW needs to know how the fandom feels about their series. I decided to register on their forums just to let them know this is going all wrong... in my opinion.

Good job, Hans! IDW does need to know how we feel. Either they make some changes, or they're going to lose Ongoing - which would make me very sad. I've been the cheerleader for 14 issues now and it's hard to keep up the positive when there's nothing to cheer about. It's past time for an exciting, dynamic, edge-of-your-seat kind of story that will have us all breathless and wanting more. I'm gonna just have to let IDW have it - even though you've already said it best!

Thanks!

It's been like nearly 2 years since I read a TF IDW comic. It well downhill in AHM......DW despite all it's faults(Pat Lee mainly) had a much better take IMHO.

trence5 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:That is the dumbest version of megatron I think I've ever seen.

whaaa....?!? This version of Megatron looks like he could take out Galvatron by himself!!!

That is a Megatron so fanwanked and messed up it'd be a wonder he could move around. And what the hell is on his right arm there?

Bad issue bad artwork

mistaloko wrote:Bad issue bad artwork

Why do you think it's bad? Please explain what it was you don't like about it. Don't just go along with what everyone else is saying -give us your opinion in detail.
Thank you.

Nice.

Line work looks rushed at some points, color work is too simplistic it has no dynamic...
Movie verse faces on G1 characters. G1 needs to be done as G1!
I buy these books every single month hoping to have a suprise and it´s always the same disappoint get it? It´s been 15 months and still nothing...
Thats the reason of my disapointment.
Im not saying these people aren´t good artists, it just seems they aren´t putting a real effort in these books

Happy?

mistaloko wrote:Nice.

Bad line work, color work is too simplistic... Megatron looks awfull


Happy?

I'm always happy! I just wanna know your opinion in detail - kinda like your post in the Transformers: Ongoing #15 Five-Page Preview. It's really not enough to just say "I don't like this." If changes need made, there needs to be details. For discussion purposes, there needs to be discussion.

I don't argue well. But I will prod you into giving up what you really think in living color detail.

That is all. Hope you're happy too!