The Energon Pub

by **Rated X** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:36 pm

Wow the MP line is so out of scale with each other. I mean should Hot Rod really be that much taller than Sideswipe ? Dont get me wrong, the detail is beautiful, but I just dont get what people like about the huge size ? Theyre in scale with dolls for crying out loud ! (hence the pictures) If this figure could be shrunk to voyager size, Id be all over it.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:39 pm

Rated X wrote:...should Hot Rod really be that much taller than Sideswipe?

Technically, he's supposed to be in scale with MP-10, not Lambor.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:49 pm

I'm hoping they don't change a thing for the US release, except maybe a yellow optic band (though not a purple repaint; I like comic continuity better, but not THAT much better), but I'm guessing Hasbro might not include Megatron.

I'm all for sensitivity in the wake of the horrible shootings of the past year, but one thing I learned in the wake of Aurora is that such tragedies seem to lead to toy guns getting cracked-down upon instead of the real ones...for some reason. I hope I didn't just start some polarizing debate, but I just noticed the Megatron, and it's something I WOULD like to see Hasbro include as well. Because it's harmless fantasy. And it's too small to be mistaken for a real magnum. Just sayin'.

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:13 am

Rated X wrote:Wow the MP line is so out of scale with each other. I mean should Hot Rod really be that much taller than Sideswipe ? Dont get me wrong, the detail is beautiful, but I just dont get what people like about the huge size ? Theyre in scale with dolls for crying out loud ! (hence the pictures) If this figure could be shrunk to voyager size, Id be all over it.

MP-01 Optimus and MP-05 Megatron are from the old larger scale. Hot Rod is actually G1 Rodimus Prime with the Hot Rod modes being more of a gimmick that doesn't scale well with the other figures, but it isn't really meant to. MP-09 Rodimus Prime, MP-10 Optimus, MP-11 Starscream, MP-12 Sideswipe and MP-13 Soundwave are all in perfect scale with each other based on the G1 size chart. MP-08 Grimlock could be considered a bit small, but still looks good with the others.

Don't get me wrong, the detail is beautiful, but I just don't see it happening in voyager size

by **Ultra Markus** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:43 am

Bumblevivisector wrote:I'm hoping they don't change a thing for the US release, except maybe a yellow optic band (though not a purple repaint; I like comic continuity better, but not THAT much better), but I'm guessing Hasbro might not include Megatron.

I'm all for sensitivity in the wake of the horrible shootings of the past year, but one thing I learned in the wake of Aurora is that such tragedies seem to lead to toy guns getting cracked-down upon instead of the real ones...for some reason. I hope I didn't just start some polarizing debate, but I just noticed the Megatron, and it's something I WOULD like to see Hasbro include as well. Because it's harmless fantasy. And it's too small to be mistaken for a real magnum. Just sayin'.

the 20th anniversary masterpiece prime back in 2005 included it even after those other mass shootings way back when(heres a guide for reference: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... -full-data ) so i wouldn't count it out yet there is still hope

by **Henry921** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:41 am

Mindmaster wrote:
Rated X wrote:...should Hot Rod really be that much taller than Sideswipe?

Technically, he's supposed to be in scale with MP-10, not Lambor.

I certainly hate knowing that Hot Rod is taller than Soundwave. :BOOM:

Still, I hope one day I can forget it, as I leave MP Rodimus boxed for all eternity as punishment for... uh, existing. :twisted:

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:59 am

I hope the quality control is sorted on this figure, after the issues with Sideswipe this could kill the MP line for me if its messed up.

As much as I love Soundwave I think Laserbeak could be the star of this release.

by **AutoBorst** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:54 am

Rated X wrote:Wow the MP line is so out of scale with each other. I mean should Hot Rod really be that much taller than Sideswipe ? Dont get me wrong, the detail is beautiful, but I just dont get what people like about the huge size ? Theyre in scale with dolls for crying out loud ! (hence the pictures) If this figure could be shrunk to voyager size, Id be all over it.

Which is exactly why I decided not to buy MP Sideswipe. Ever since they released MP Hot Rod Takara's gone and messed up the whole scale. Bad enough Soundwave will be a whole head shorter than Megatron, but Sideswipe shouldn't look like a Autobot mini spy next to him.

So I'm guessing the next MP announcement will be Soundblaster?

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:00 am

AutoBorst wrote:So I'm guessing the next MP announcement will be Soundblaster?

Wonder what tape he would come with?

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:07 am

I just pictured Soundwave blasting Rod Stewart... because yeah I think he's sexy!

I agree with those who think Rodimus is too tall. But it's true, he was meant to be Rodimus Prime, so I guess it's forgiven. Sideswipe really does look tiny though.

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:41 am

Thanks to 78dm.net we have an extensive set of high quality MP-13 Soundwave and Laserbeak images. Pretty much everything gets covered here: packaging, instructions, accessories, both figures in all modes, comparisons, and even the special collectors coin. Enjoy the images mirrored below.

by **Bumbleblogn** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:16 pm

At first the legs on this guy really bothered me, but after I saw you could at least pose them in a running/standing/action foreign pose, it became alright. Sadly tho, the shinning point of this set Is laserbeak, and I'm not saying this sarcastically. The way takara re-imaged this toy is simply stunning. Going from a toy that was basicly a parts former, to a toy that has 3X the articulation and NO CIBBLE! It's a shame you can't just buy laserbeak lol

by **jindrak** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:20 pm

I don't want to see any more pictures of this, I want to OWN it!!!

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:17 pm

Wow that's a lot of pictures!
so does the clear energon cube comes with all Soundwave releases or just the Amazon exclusive one? All the pictures and reviews I've seen of him has it but neither say if they have the Amazon exclusive version

by **Arie** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:19 pm

mooncake623 wrote:Wow that's a lot of pictures!
so does the clear energon cube comes with all Soundwave releases or just the Amazon exclusive one? All the pictures and reviews I've seen of him has it but neither say if they have the Amazon exclusive version

The Amazon release simply comes with an extra energon cube.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:25 pm

Oh that's great news thanks!

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:26 pm

Holy extensive gallery, Batman! So nice. I love the little speakers in the arm compartments, very nice touch.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:40 pm

kirbenvost wrote:I love the little speakers in the arm compartments, very nice touch.

Speakers in the arm compartment? What the....?

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:26 pm

This is officially my entire Christmas List. "Dear Santa..."

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:52 pm

Ravage XK wrote:I hope the quality control is sorted on this figure, after the issues with Sideswipe this could kill the MP line for me if its messed up.

As much as I love Soundwave I think Laserbeak could be the star of this release.

What was the issue with your Sideswipe? I didn't have any.

Regarding the scale. I don't have any problem with height of Sideswipe, Soundwave, MP10, and Rodimus Prime, Seekers, and Grimlock.

by **YoungPrime** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:54 pm

All I want is the bird.

Bird, bird, bird...bird is the word!

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:01 pm

Great detailed pics. Love the speakers in the arm. And the articulation with the shoulder.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:01 pm

YoungPrime wrote:All I want is the bird.

Bird, bird, bird...bird is the word!

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:43 pm

So you have to cut out the two illustrations on the user manual and sandwich it between SW's chest and the transparent grid plate for the schematics gimmick?

I'd rather scan the two illustrations and print them out...or make some original ones.

I hate that, like MP-10, there's a space/gap between his fingers and the bottom of the gun, caused by the blocky forearm:

It could have been remedied by redesigning the gun so that the trigger parts could be lowered a little when deployed, like the GU-11 gunpods for Yamato's 1/60 VF-1 toys:

Overall, though, this is a kickass toy; can't wait for it to arrive at my hobby store.

by **feeiq90** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:55 pm

im guessing his thigh uses the joint like hasbro iron man figure..if u rotate the upper part,u can get a good range of motion for his leg...any confirmation on this?