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wigglez323 wrote:The only thing I didn't like about Wall-E is that it portrayed humans in the future as a bunch of fat slobs that are too lazy to do anything. Thus the creation of robots. But brings me to another point. Would we find robotic races? Like I said earlier, we might find a race that are kinda metallic that were actually organic. Not completely metallic because that just falls in my theory of how rock creatures wouldn't exist. So I wouldn't say we would find an alien race like transformers unless they were built by someone else. Like the Geth from Mass Effect. They were built by the Quarians to do labor for them and then gained self-awareness and rebelled. Now they have their own society and are considered another species because of the self-awareness and the term artificial is also considered racist to these beings.

That's what I want humanity to accomplish before we're all wiped off the face of existence itself.

Jesterhead wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:
Wall-E.

Best movie of 2008, imo. If you were expecting aliens and explosions, you didn't get it...



And yes, Apollo 18 was easily detestable.

You mean 2011? And I didn't expect explosions. I expected actual footage with actual aliens. Not fake ass footage with rocks with legs.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Jesterhead wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:
Wall-E.

Best movie of 2008, imo. If you were expecting aliens and explosions, you didn't get it...



And yes, Apollo 18 was easily detestable.

You mean 2011? And I didn't expect explosions. I expected actual footage with actual aliens. Not fake ass footage with rocks with legs.

He meant Wall-E.

If you expected Apollo 18 to be real, you have no clue what the found-footage genre is. It's all fake; Paranormal Activity, Cannibal Holocaust, The Tapes, etc.

BTW, Wall-E was completely stupid. It was all about how a trash compactor fell in love with an offline egg-pod. It had absolutely no point to it besides looking pretty.

prowl123 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Jesterhead wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:
Wall-E.

Best movie of 2008, imo. If you were expecting aliens and explosions, you didn't get it...



And yes, Apollo 18 was easily detestable.

You mean 2011? And I didn't expect explosions. I expected actual footage with actual aliens. Not fake ass footage with rocks with legs.

He meant Wall-E.

If you expected Apollo 18 to be real, you have no clue what the found-footage genre is. It's all fake; Paranormal Activity, Cannibal Holocaust, The Tapes, etc.

Oh...

I've never seen any of those movies though. But I knew PA was fake though, I've just never seen it.

SlyTF1 wrote:

prowl123 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Jesterhead wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:
Wall-E.

Best movie of 2008, imo. If you were expecting aliens and explosions, you didn't get it...



And yes, Apollo 18 was easily detestable.

You mean 2011? And I didn't expect explosions. I expected actual footage with actual aliens. Not fake ass footage with rocks with legs.

He meant Wall-E.

If you expected Apollo 18 to be real, you have no clue what the found-footage genre is. It's all fake; Paranormal Activity, Cannibal Holocaust, The Tapes, etc.

Oh...

I've never seen any of those movies though. But I knew PA was fake though, I've just never seen it.

Do NOT believe the hype that it is scary. It isn't.

Back on-topic, aliens are real.

What do you guys think about aliens?

wigglez323 wrote:What do you guys think about aliens?

I think they better hurry up and destroy earth. I'd gladly help them. If not, I'll settle for being abducted by them and living on their planet.

SlyTF1 wrote:

wigglez323 wrote:What do you guys think about aliens?

I think they better hurry up and destroy earth. I'd gladly help them. If not, I'll settle for being abducted by them and living on their planet.

This is why you're on my friends list.

So you think it would be logical to say that aliens would have to be on a planet at a certain distance from a star like earth?

wigglez323 wrote:So you think it would be logical to say that aliens would have to be on a planet at a certain distance from a star like earth?

I don't think so. You have to get rid of the box, guys.

We all keep thinking that the aliens are going to be exactly like humans; it can't be too hot, it can't be too cold, they need oxygen, etc. If you cut up that little box that's called science, it makes believing in aliens so much easier.

prowl123 wrote:I don't think so. You have to get rid of the box, guys.

We all keep thinking that the aliens are going to be exactly like humans; it can't be too hot, it can't be too cold, they need oxygen, etc. If you cut up that little box that's called science, it makes believing in aliens so much easier.

I agree.

"Human-like" life my require Earth-like conditions, but who knows whats possible on alien worlds.

Well, if you think about it. The alien creatures could be like anything. But the ones that would be amphibious people our bird people, they would need water right? So they would need to be at a certain distance from earth. Then there might be creatures that might be like jelly creatures or something like that. Then yeah, their planet might as far as Saturn or something.

prowl123 wrote:

wigglez323 wrote:So you think it would be logical to say that aliens would have to be on a planet at a certain distance from a star like earth?

I don't think so. You have to get rid of the box, guys.

We all keep thinking that the aliens are going to be exactly like humans; it can't be too hot, it can't be too cold, they need oxygen, etc. If you cut up that little box that's called science, it makes believing in aliens so much easier.

How the hell do you know they need oxygen? They could have adapted to the lack of oxygen.

SlyTF1 wrote:

prowl123 wrote:

wigglez323 wrote:So you think it would be logical to say that aliens would have to be on a planet at a certain distance from a star like earth?

I don't think so. You have to get rid of the box, guys.

We all keep thinking that the aliens are going to be exactly like humans; it can't be too hot, it can't be too cold, they need oxygen, etc. If you cut up that little box that's called science, it makes believing in aliens so much easier.

How the hell do you know they need oxygen? They could have adapted to the lack of oxygen.

That goes with the theory of them not needing a planet close to a star that sustains water. But I agree. There can be a race where they breathe a completely different gas or not need to breathe at all.

SlyTF1 wrote:

prowl123 wrote:

wigglez323 wrote:So you think it would be logical to say that aliens would have to be on a planet at a certain distance from a star like earth?

I don't think so. You have to get rid of the box, guys.

We all keep thinking that the aliens are going to be exactly like humans; it can't be too hot, it can't be too cold, they need oxygen, etc. If you cut up that little box that's called science, it makes believing in aliens so much easier.

How the hell do you know they need oxygen? They could have adapted to the lack of oxygen.

That's what I'm sayin' Jeevs.

Seriously, we can't possibly imagen what alien life forms really look like or how they function.
If life exists on other planets, it's evolution will have made it to survive it's environment, they can only be aquatic if the planet they live on has water, or large bodies of water.

As for alien life like us, or similar to that of earth? Well I think I read somewhere once that we know of around 1000 planets that offer from similar living conditions to exactly the same living conditions as earth.

Also I believe Saturn's moon Titan has signs of primitive life, or was it just the conditions for developing life?

I've always been interested in the prospect of alien life. I'm absolutely convinced that's out there somewhere. I mean, space is just so absurdly big that saying that our planet is the only place with life seems almost like a naive standpoint.

But the question of what alien life forms could be like is a much touchier subject. I doubt there are many life forms similar to what we have here on Earth out there, but I do think there probably are some. There's a concept known as convergent evolution, where two more or less unrelated organisms develop similar characteristics to another because they live in the same environment. It might not be impossible for other planets with life that requires similar conditions to our own to have beings that resemble birds for instance, because there are only so many effective body plans out there. That's why we constantly see similar body plans repeated. For instance, being bipedal developed in both humans and dinosaurs, but we evolved that trait separately.

For those touching on the idea of mechanical life forms, considering this is a Transformers forum, I say, sure, why not? It probably wouldn't surprise me if we found some form of life based on, or at least heavily composed of, metal. There are some who speculate that a life form could be composed of silicon, which bonds with a lot of different metals, albeit the idea has been shot down by a number of scholars. I say we can't rule anything out, though. After all, we only know of one kind of life, and that's what's on Earth right now.

So I was talking to someone earlier and he said that it was impossible that aliens lived anywhere but on a planet where it's far enough to have water. I sorta agree with him.

I don't.

I just saw the Men In Black 3 trailer and I have to say despite what we think about aliens, I deffinately know it's not possible for aliens to exist that are drawings on walls. We talked about if they could live on a planet that doesn't have to be at a certain distance from a star or what they could be comosed of. But this is just throwing things pretty far.

Given the age of the universe, the length of time required for evolution to produce an intelligent tool-using species, and the tendency of technological development to accelerate at ridiculous rates, any alien species in our galaxy will be either thousands/millions of years ahead of us or thousands/millions of years behind us, technologically speaking. Thus, a Star Trek-ish "major powers" sort of scenario is pretty unrealistic; it's going to be more like either Independence Day or Avatar. Or Contact, but that would be totally boring.