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Soprano's series finale... What are your predictions? *POSSIBLE SPOILERS ADDED*

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Soprano's series finale... What are your predictions? *POSSIBLE SPOILERS ADDED*

Postby Cyber Bishop » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:36 am

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This Sunday HBO airs the last episode of the Soprano's titled "Made In America", and seeing what has happened so far, what are your predictions on how this show will come to an end?
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:00 pm

If Tony goes out I hope its in a shootout with that asshole Phil

I hated to see Bobbby killed off and I think Sylvio will get another attempt on his life

Didn't Phil think that this would cause a war between both factions His and Tony's?

As I said before its the only show there is that the major characters get killed


EDIT: I had to add this

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Postby Cyber Bishop » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:15 pm

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Weapon: Black Magic
*SPOILER ALERT**

ONLY READ IF YOU WANT TO READ OF ONE OF THE POSSIBLE 3 ENDINGS.




























The episode opens at a gas station in upstate New
york a couple pull up to a pump in a red Cadillac. It
is revealed to be Phil and Patty Leotardo. Phil gets
out and begins to fill his tank when Benny Fazio
approaches him from behind and shoots him twice in
the head. Benny runs and gets into a sedan driven by
Patsy Parisi and the two speed off as an african
american youth onlooker throws up. We see see Tony
Soprano, Paulie Walnuts, Carlo Gervasi, and Dante
Greco playing cards in the safehouse from the prior
episode. Tony gets a call from Benny on a payphone.
He says "The Shaw's gone," and hangs up. Tony get up
and motions for Paulie to follow. The two get into
his Escalade after putting his AR-10 inot the
backseat. The two drive to Satriales and sit outside
all the while discussing days past in Johnny Boy
Sopranos heyday. Paulie is working on his tan and
Tony is smoking a cigar when a black Cadillac sedan
approaches. Little Carmine Luperatazzi exits the
backseat while the car drives around the corner. They
seat themselves across from Tony and Paulie and begin
to discuss recent affairs. After many malaprosims
from Carmine and some moronic rambling from Paulie
Tony laughs and interjects saying he is proud to be
present at the first sit down between the new bosses
of New Jersey and Brooklyn. Paulie and Carmine both
appear shocked and Tony tells them its long over due
and Paulie has been passed up too many times. Tony
leaves the two and goes inside to speak with Agent
Harris. Who is seen sitting in the back corner.
Harris acknowledges Carmines presence and asks if hes
to take that Carmine's the new boss of Brooklynn Tony
tells him to, "Take whatever the *beep* you want and
take one last Veal Parm Hero on the house." We now
see AJ, Carmella, and Meadow in a motel room. A knock
on the door prompts Carmella to remove a .45
automatic from her purse and walk to the door and ask
whos there? Meadow reading the paper and AJ watching
t.v. are both scared. After a long silence a familiar
voice say's "A loving father and husband." Carmella
opens the door and Tony and Paulie enter they all
leave and go back to Casa De Soprano. After arriving
home Janice Pulls up, leaves her kids there and her
and Tony leave. Leaving Paulie to guard their
respective families. The two arrive at a state
hospital where they enter one at a time to talk to
their Uncle Junior. Janice goes first and the two
discuss moving him out of the hospital and Tony comes
in to talk with him. The two make small talk until
the shooting comes up. Junior apoligizes and said he
was out of his head and that he always loved Tony
even when he didnt show it. Tony and Janice return
home around night fall and Tony and Paulie leave
again Carmella is worried and Tony tells her not to
worry this is the last time he will be leaving like
this. Paulie and Tony are sitting in his car at night
in an empty parking lot as the snow is falling
discussing Paulies promotion Tony says he will be
happy to be Consigliere to Paulie. When headlights
shine upon them. The two get out and walk toward a
parked SUV. When Butch DeConcini and Albie Cianflone
exit it and walk toward them. They discuss peace and
Tony tells the that if ran under Carmine, Brooklyn
could expect no porblems from them. They shake hands
and Tony suggests a drink to celebrate. Tony walks
back to his car and opens the backseat. Tony pulls
out a large object covered in a black plastic garbage
bag. Paulie runs off to the side and throws himself
down and Albie and Butch pull ot pistols but are too
late when the garbage bag erupts with machine gun
fire. Tony helps Paulie out of the snow and the two
admire the AR-10 and two dead bodies. Tony looks the
gun over and admires a phrase written on the stock.
"Made In America." The two then drive away. We see
the Soprano home at daylight the next day Carmella is
in the bathtub, Meadow is asleep, and AJ is unlocking
the hidden gun closet in an indoor column. he removes
something and then goes outside. We see the pool once
again uncovered yet empty and AJ is sitting in the
botton holding a hand grenade. He pulls the pin out
and holds the handle he hesitates and throws it to
the other end of the pool it blows up dirtying him.
Carmella comes outside with her .45 and nearly shoots
her son. Tony arrives to see him sitting on the couch
being questioned AJ says it was so cool. Tony laughs
and writes it off and tells everyone to get in the
car. Carmella asks where there going and Tony
replies, Out for ice cream. We see a number of things
in the final scene Paulie the surviving Jersey crew
with Carmine and his crew having dinner together and
toasting the two's promotions. Silvio's heartbeat
monitor going flat. Janice in a small home with her
three kids appearing miserable. Agent Harris
aresting the two muslims from the Bada Bing
apparently making bombs. Pat Blundetto breaking
Junior out of the state hospital.Dr. Jennifer Melfi
Smiling alone in her office while reading about the
recent gangland slayings and Anthony Sopranos
apparent stepping down as boss. Finally we see Tony
and his immediate family together at an ice cream
parlor.Tony then tells his family that hes no longer
depressed and that being with his family and them
being safe was better than all the therapists and
Prozac in the world. It just took all this *beep* to
make him see it. AJ says he's happy just to be alive
and that hes snapped out of it aswell. Tony proposes
a toast to his family mirroring the season one finale
"I Dream Of Jeannie Cusamano".

I got this from a pretty decent source as one of the "3 endings" that David Chase filmed.

And after the pix that I saw, this does make some sort of sense.
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Postby Counterpunch » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:32 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:*SPOILER ALERT**

ONLY READ IF YOU WANT TO READ OF ONE OF THE POSSIBLE 3 ENDINGS.




























The episode opens at a gas station in upstate New
york a couple pull up to a pump in a red Cadillac. It
is revealed to be Phil and Patty Leotardo. Phil gets
out and begins to fill his tank when Benny Fazio
approaches him from behind and shoots him twice in
the head. Benny runs and gets into a sedan driven by
Patsy Parisi and the two speed off as an african
american youth onlooker throws up. We see see Tony
Soprano, Paulie Walnuts, Carlo Gervasi, and Dante
Greco playing cards in the safehouse from the prior
episode. Tony gets a call from Benny on a payphone.
He says "The Shaw's gone," and hangs up. Tony get up
and motions for Paulie to follow. The two get into
his Escalade after putting his AR-10 inot the
backseat. The two drive to Satriales and sit outside
all the while discussing days past in Johnny Boy
Sopranos heyday. Paulie is working on his tan and
Tony is smoking a cigar when a black Cadillac sedan
approaches. Little Carmine Luperatazzi exits the
backseat while the car drives around the corner. They
seat themselves across from Tony and Paulie and begin
to discuss recent affairs. After many malaprosims
from Carmine and some moronic rambling from Paulie
Tony laughs and interjects saying he is proud to be
present at the first sit down between the new bosses
of New Jersey and Brooklyn. Paulie and Carmine both
appear shocked and Tony tells them its long over due
and Paulie has been passed up too many times. Tony
leaves the two and goes inside to speak with Agent
Harris. Who is seen sitting in the back corner.
Harris acknowledges Carmines presence and asks if hes
to take that Carmine's the new boss of Brooklynn Tony
tells him to, "Take whatever the *beep* you want and
take one last Veal Parm Hero on the house." We now
see AJ, Carmella, and Meadow in a motel room. A knock
on the door prompts Carmella to remove a .45
automatic from her purse and walk to the door and ask
whos there? Meadow reading the paper and AJ watching
t.v. are both scared. After a long silence a familiar
voice say's "A loving father and husband." Carmella
opens the door and Tony and Paulie enter they all
leave and go back to Casa De Soprano. After arriving
home Janice Pulls up, leaves her kids there and her
and Tony leave. Leaving Paulie to guard their
respective families. The two arrive at a state
hospital where they enter one at a time to talk to
their Uncle Junior. Janice goes first and the two
discuss moving him out of the hospital and Tony comes
in to talk with him. The two make small talk until
the shooting comes up. Junior apoligizes and said he
was out of his head and that he always loved Tony
even when he didnt show it. Tony and Janice return
home around night fall and Tony and Paulie leave
again Carmella is worried and Tony tells her not to
worry this is the last time he will be leaving like
this. Paulie and Tony are sitting in his car at night
in an empty parking lot as the snow is falling
discussing Paulies promotion Tony says he will be
happy to be Consigliere to Paulie. When headlights
shine upon them. The two get out and walk toward a
parked SUV. When Butch DeConcini and Albie Cianflone
exit it and walk toward them. They discuss peace and
Tony tells the that if ran under Carmine, Brooklyn
could expect no porblems from them. They shake hands
and Tony suggests a drink to celebrate. Tony walks
back to his car and opens the backseat. Tony pulls
out a large object covered in a black plastic garbage
bag. Paulie runs off to the side and throws himself
down and Albie and Butch pull ot pistols but are too
late when the garbage bag erupts with machine gun
fire. Tony helps Paulie out of the snow and the two
admire the AR-10 and two dead bodies. Tony looks the
gun over and admires a phrase written on the stock.
"Made In America." The two then drive away. We see
the Soprano home at daylight the next day Carmella is
in the bathtub, Meadow is asleep, and AJ is unlocking
the hidden gun closet in an indoor column. he removes
something and then goes outside. We see the pool once
again uncovered yet empty and AJ is sitting in the
botton holding a hand grenade. He pulls the pin out
and holds the handle he hesitates and throws it to
the other end of the pool it blows up dirtying him.
Carmella comes outside with her .45 and nearly shoots
her son. Tony arrives to see him sitting on the couch
being questioned AJ says it was so cool. Tony laughs
and writes it off and tells everyone to get in the
car. Carmella asks where there going and Tony
replies, Out for ice cream. We see a number of things
in the final scene Paulie the surviving Jersey crew
with Carmine and his crew having dinner together and
toasting the two's promotions. Silvio's heartbeat
monitor going flat. Janice in a small home with her
three kids appearing miserable. Agent Harris
aresting the two muslims from the Bada Bing
apparently making bombs. Pat Blundetto breaking
Junior out of the state hospital.Dr. Jennifer Melfi
Smiling alone in her office while reading about the
recent gangland slayings and Anthony Sopranos
apparent stepping down as boss. Finally we see Tony
and his immediate family together at an ice cream
parlor.Tony then tells his family that hes no longer
depressed and that being with his family and them
being safe was better than all the therapists and
Prozac in the world. It just took all this *beep* to
make him see it. AJ says he's happy just to be alive
and that hes snapped out of it aswell. Tony proposes
a toast to his family mirroring the season one finale
"I Dream Of Jeannie Cusamano".

I got this from a pretty decent source as one of the "3 endings" that David Chase filmed.

And after the pix that I saw, this does make some sort of sense.


I could totally be happy with that ending.
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:50 pm

I hope this is true because its sounds like a very good ending
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:53 pm

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Wheeljack35 wrote:I hope this is true because its sounds like a very good ending


A lot better than Tony dying or some damned dream sequence..
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:15 pm

Too bad Sylvio has to die though :(
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:49 pm

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Wheeljack35 wrote:Too bad Sylvio has to die though :(


Well we don't know that yet.. There were 3 endings filmed..
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:45 am

Well I won't be able to catch until Tuesday night my next off day so I won't be on this this thread till then
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:08 pm

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When it went to black like that we were like "ok... what just happened" then the credits started to roll.
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Postby Professor Smooth » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:18 pm

What happened?
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Postby Talon523 » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:19 pm

Cyber Bishop wrote:When it went to black like that we were like "ok... what just happened" then the credits started to roll.


I came on here to see if anyone else saw that. I thought my cable or sound went out. That was a crazy ending.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:25 pm

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Talon523 wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:When it went to black like that we were like "ok... what just happened" then the credits started to roll.


I came on here to see if anyone else saw that. I thought my cable or sound went out. That was a crazy ending.


We thought the cable went out as well..
I was expecting the guy that went to the bathroom to whack all of them but...

It was funny watching those guys get grossed out over what happened to Phil..

It basically ended with Tony and his family together (well Meadow was coming in the restaurant)..
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Postby NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:27 pm

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David Chase sucks.

I hope he gets taken out like Vito did.

5 minutes of Meadow parking.

What an ending.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:26 am

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NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE wrote:David Chase sucks.

I hope he gets taken out like Vito did.

5 minutes of Meadow parking.

What an ending.


I know what Chase was trying to accomplish with that ending..
He wanted to keep us guessing "oh crap something is going to happen with Meadow", "who coming in is going to whack Tony"..
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Postby GetterDragun » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:55 am

I really liked the ending!

I wonder though how muh Lexus paid for that placement. Funny though, the LS460 could have parallel parked itself.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:07 am

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Some ending theories I have heard discussed on the radio this morn.

Meaning of ending theory #1
To show the paranoia of Tony’t life and how every person that walks through the door could be the one to “clip him” .
Tony does live and his life will never change.

Meaning of ending theory #2
A few episodes back when Tony and Bobby were on the boat they discussed death and how it just goes to black and there is no sound.
Fast forward to the finale,
Things seem somewhat normal for Tony and as he looks and sees Meadow enter the screen goes black and there is no sound which signifies Tony does indeed get clipped right after Meadow enters but goes to the perspective of the boat discussion “goes black and no sound”.

I don’t like to think Tony got clipped so I like the first ending theory.

One thing Chase accomplished was having people talk about it.. It is the rage at the “water cooler” this morning.
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Postby Homer » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:15 am

I have GOT to find someone that tivo'd this, I wasn't able to catch it.


Isn't there a possible movie coming? Was there confirmation of this or no?
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:17 am

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Homer Jay wrote:I have GOT to find someone that tivo'd this, I wasn't able to catch it.


Isn't there a possible movie coming? Was there confirmation of this or no?


If you have on demand you can watch it via the HBO on demand today.

Let's put it this way, I heard Steven Van Zandt say there would be no movie BUT the ending does leave things open for one.
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Postby Talon523 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:27 am

My inital reaction was that it sucked. Now that I have had a few hours to reflect, I think it was great. If he was whacked, how awsome was that last scene. To kill one of the best characters ever, on one of the most violent shows ever, by just cutting to black.
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:14 pm

I was going to stay away from this thread until I have seen it tommorrow night but I heard them talking about this on ESPN this morning

2 things were bought up

1 David Chase made 5 different endings and may put them all on one DVD

2 There might be a movie which I wouldn't put it past them to make

I only got to see the first half hour last night

Homer the HBO channels repeat these episodes each night up til Saturday

Check on of the HBO networks to see if its on tonight which it should

I will catch on Tuesday I watch it every tuesday because I work Sunday nights
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Postby NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:30 pm

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I think those theorys are just fans scrambling to make sense out of what The Sopranos did best.

D*ck tease.

Every year they set up plotlines, and every year very little if anything came of them, Nemesis's for Tony arose, and disappeared with little or no impact.

Even in the end, as Tony's life started to spiral outta control, Melfi leaving him, Phil ordering his death, Sil in a coma, Bobby dead, AJ sucidal, Meadow changing careers (yeah and like that was a huge tragedy,she wants to be a lawyer and not a doctor, oh yeah that sucks) what happens?

Melfi leaving has no effect, Phil dies, Sil's coma means nothing, as does Bobby's death, AJ is handed a career, and just gets better (so basically burn a 30,000 dollar car and it cures your depression), and Meadow can't park a car.

Every issue Tony has just disappears, like his cousin, like Furio, like John Sak, like Ritchie Apreal, like Junior, like his mom, like Janice, like Ralph, like Adriana, like Christopher....

I couldn't see how people praised this show, season after terrible season, season delay after season delay and even now after what is already being called, 'The WORST ending in television history' continue to do so.

Terrible just terrible, but that's my opinion.
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:03 pm

The worst?

No

If he had woken up and this was all a dream that would of been the worst

Even though I haven't seen it yet it sounds to me like the rest of Tony's life will be mundane
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:15 pm

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Wheeljack35 wrote:If he had woken up and this was all a dream that would of been the worst


There would be a bounty on Chase's head..

And you don't have to wait for HBO to re-air anything if you have the "on demand" feature.
If you have that you can watch it anytime that you want to.

And WJ a correction

Chase made 3 endings
There will be no movie.

Both questions were asked and answered by Steven Van Zandt last week on the Stern show.
According to him the decision on what ending to go with would happen on Sunday (or something last minute like that).
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:58 pm

My HBO on demand is not letting me in BUT I found out its being repeated tonight at 8 so I can see it today instead of tommorrow

I have learned one thing over my life is to never say never

Stevy may have said no but David Chase and HBO have the final say
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