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Delta Magnus wrote:As long as TR doesn't pull a CW and redeco the same few molds ad infinitum I'm excited. Hardhead and Skullcruncher are definite buys for me. Glavatron too.

Well, you're in for disappointment, I'm sure we'll be getting 6 recolors of Skullcruncher for all the alligator figures we (haven't) had


WAIT... Soundwave is getting a TR mold with a detachable head... and Soundwave was an alligator in BW...

BEAST WARS MUTANTS SOUNDWAVE CONFIRMED FOR TITANS RETURN

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:As long as TR doesn't pull a CW and redeco the same few molds ad infinitum I'm excited. Hardhead and Skullcruncher are definite buys for me. Glavatron too.

Well, you're in for disappointment, I'm sure we'll be getting 6 recolors of Skullcruncher for all the alligator figures we (haven't) had


WAIT... Soundwave is getting a TR mold with a detachable head... and Soundwave was an alligator in BW...

BEAST WARS MUTANTS SOUNDWAVE CONFIRMED FOR TITANS RETURN

I told ya we're probably gonna get Beast Wars Headmasters!

SillySpringer wrote:Blurr for example, Hasbro would have to make a PRETTY BIG STRETCH to turn those into different characters

Never underestimate Hasbro when it comes to making the most out a mold.

Case in point, the most recent rumour from the transmissions podcast:

Titanmaster Deluxe Brainstorm will be a remold of Titanmaster Deluxe Blurr (new head, and adds wings).

Also, while I was visiting the rumour mill (getting my weekly flour bag), I stumbled upon this:

There will be another Windblade figure, who is not a Headmaster.

So for those who want non headmasters to remain non headmasters, well no worries, Windblade is getting issued again and not as a headmaster

Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, people seem to be passing it off after seeing only 1 wave of figures

We're Transformers fans, it's what we do.

Someone mentioned in the CW thread about Computron becoming a Headmaster but it wouldn't happen because it would require a lot of retooling.

Looking at TR (got it right then Billy-Jim!) Blaster, it looks like the Titanmaster just plugs into a flat piece of plastic.

Can't imagine that would take much retooling on Scattorshot. Throw in some weapon Mini-cons and we have three gimmicks in one!

Hellscream9999 wrote:So by the time I was interested in getting him, the artic deco was announced, which I was more interested in

Cool. I mean ice cold cool! But you'll probably have to paint his mustache too.

william-james88 wrote:

Titanmaster Deluxe Brainstorm will be a remold of Titanmaster Deluxe Blurr (new head, and adds wings).

SAY WHUT?

I'm cool with some Beast Wars Headmasters. If we're getting weird with it then let's get real weird. Get a leader or bigger whale pretender shell basemode titanmaster in the mix.

Hellscream9999 wrote:BEAST WARS MUTANTS SOUNDWAVE CONFIRMED FOR TITANS RETURN

Oh Hasbro knows full well. They even commented that very possibility during an interview with Seibertron (I think, there were so many itnerviews I forget which one it was).

I was actually super impressed when they brough it up. Its always nie to know the people that run it know of such niche toys.

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Blurr for example, Hasbro would have to make a PRETTY BIG STRETCH to turn those into different characters

Never underestimate Hasbro when it comes to making the most out a mold.

Case in point, the most recent rumour from the transmissions podcast:

Titanmaster Deluxe Brainstorm will be a remold of Titanmaster Deluxe Blurr (new head, and adds wings).

Also, while I was visiting the rumour mill (getting my weekly flour bag), I stumbled upon this:

There will be another Windblade figure, who is not a Headmaster.

So for those who want non headmasters to remain non headmasters, well no worries, Windblade is getting issued again and not as a headmaster

I scanned through that post and couldn't see anything about Blurr being retooled into any other characters. I also think a deluxe Brainstorm retool of Blurr is kinda stupid and not needed.

Burn wrote:Someone mentioned in the CW thread about Computron becoming a Headmaster but it wouldn't happen because it would require a lot of retooling.

Looking at TR (got it right then Billy-Jim!) Blaster, it looks like the Titanmaster just plugs into a flat piece of plastic.

Can't imagine that would take much retooling on Scattorshot. Throw in some weapon Mini-cons and we have three gimmicks in one!

Well, that was me shooting it down, and I was basing it off the fact that there may not be enough clearance for the neckplate to accommodate the headmasters head-clips and such; but if the rotation joint is included in the headmaster unit (the headmaster's head must be on a mushroom joint - maybe one like cw cyclonus that can rock forwards and backwards maybe ), I suppose it could happen - so long as it is more accurate to what it is trying to emulate, I don't care

SillySpringer wrote:
I scanned through that post and couldn't see anything about Blurr being retooled into any other characters. I also think a deluxe Brainstorm retool of Blurr is kinda stupid and not needed.

Its the last paragraph. I agree on it not being needed. But at least that means Canada might finally get a brainstorm on its shelves.

Mr Skram wrote:I'm cool with some Beast Wars Headmasters. If we're getting weird with it then let's get real weird. Get a leader or bigger whale pretender shell basemode titanmaster in the mix.

Titan class Orcanoch ftw

Just so long as it gets a bot mode too

Cobotron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:So by the time I was interested in getting him, the artic deco was announced, which I was more interested in

Cool. I mean ice cold cool! But you'll probably have to paint his mustache too.

Well, as I have no real connection to the character/figure, I don't really need him

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:
I scanned through that post and couldn't see anything about Blurr being retooled into any other characters. I also think a deluxe Brainstorm retool of Blurr is kinda stupid and not needed.

Its the last paragraph. I agree on it not being needed. But at least that means Canada might finally get a brainstorm on its shelves.

Yeah, considering when the first one was released, I think that was them testing some of the designs for this line, while fitting in a portion of tf history into the 30's line

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:
I scanned through that post and couldn't see anything about Blurr being retooled into any other characters. I also think a deluxe Brainstorm retool of Blurr is kinda stupid and not needed.

Its the last paragraph. I agree on it not being needed. But at least that means Canada might finally get a brainstorm on its shelves.

Canada didn't get Generations Brainstorm?! That's a travesty. I was never into headmasters but Brainstorm made me a believer and it's probably the main reason I'm excited for the TR line. My favorite figure shifts from time to time but I always come back to Gen Brainstorm. I'm slightly opposed to another incarnation when the current one suits the character perfectly well already, but I'd probably end up picking it up anyway.

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:
I scanned through that post and couldn't see anything about Blurr being retooled into any other characters. I also think a deluxe Brainstorm retool of Blurr is kinda stupid and not needed.

Its the last paragraph. I agree on it not being needed. But at least that means Canada might finally get a brainstorm on its shelves.

Yeah but still, I'd probably just get Gen Brainstorm and get the Blurr version of this new mold.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Burn wrote:Someone mentioned in the CW thread about Computron becoming a Headmaster but it wouldn't happen because it would require a lot of retooling.

Looking at TR (got it right then Billy-Jim!) Blaster, it looks like the Titanmaster just plugs into a flat piece of plastic.

Can't imagine that would take much retooling on Scattorshot. Throw in some weapon Mini-cons and we have three gimmicks in one!

Well, that was me shooting it down, and I was basing it off the fact that there may not be enough clearance for the neckplate to accommodate the headmasters head-clips and such; but if the rotation joint is included in the headmaster unit (the headmaster's head must be on a mushroom joint - maybe one like cw cyclonus that can rock forwards and backwards maybe ), I suppose it could happen - so long as it is more accurate to what it is trying to emulate, I don't care

Or they just sacrifice articulation for a gimmick.

Wouldn't be the first time articulation has been neutered because of a gimmick.

Counterpunch wrote:(snip)

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Not to defend the new-stuff haters, but that was when all of the GEEWUNers were still kids, so they would have seen it as a cool new feature.

First off, I don't think I was so obtuse as to be mentioned in the same breath as anything that could be considered a "new-stuff hater." Before most current board members were on their way to see the 2007 movie, I was taking up the sword and shield for RiD and Armada, two franchise elements much harder to defend that CW or TR, against a sea of G1 purists.

So I'll have no one on this board inferring any bit of close mindedness on my part.

How was any of that directed at you?
Unless you are referring to my use of the term GEEWUNner, I don't remember pointing you out.
The specific meaning of GEEWUNNer (from Wikipiedia, and I quote) is: "pejorative, fandom slang, (chiefly Transformers fandom) Someone who prefers the first generation of a franchise, especially when elitist or snobbish about later generations". That wasn't intended to insult you.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Rated X wrote:Ill stick with my Unique Toys Soundblaster who is actually made to scale with existing figures rather than being kiddie size like Hasbro is trying to pull here.

Great, but you've already said that at least twice now. I don't have a problem with you sticking with him, but please stop proclaiming it every time TR Blaster is mentioned.

I base my comments on how I feet at the current time of posting. I don't keep track of posts I made a month ago. Maybe if Hasbro's choices for this character didn't suck so much, I would have something more positive to say. Not only is it out of scale, they made him a freaking headmaster and a mini city bot just for the hell of it. My comments are no more redundant than the dozens of other negative comments made about this figure for the same reasons I stated. You know whats really getting redundant?

You singling out my comments among an entire sea of negativity.

Except the choices didn't suck. Sure for a G1 purist, they do, but for their intended audience, it makes the toy look more attractive, and thus more likely to be bought. It just so happens that they don't match up with the way you like things. And for the thing about comments, most people are just saying that they wish that the figure didn't have the whole HeadTitanmaster gimmick, while you are directly insulting the figure itself. That's a whole other level.

Burn wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Burn wrote:Someone mentioned in the CW thread about Computron becoming a Headmaster but it wouldn't happen because it would require a lot of retooling.

Looking at TR (got it right then Billy-Jim!) Blaster, it looks like the Titanmaster just plugs into a flat piece of plastic.

Can't imagine that would take much retooling on Scattorshot. Throw in some weapon Mini-cons and we have three gimmicks in one!

Well, that was me shooting it down, and I was basing it off the fact that there may not be enough clearance for the neckplate to accommodate the headmasters head-clips and such; but if the rotation joint is included in the headmaster unit (the headmaster's head must be on a mushroom joint - maybe one like cw cyclonus that can rock forwards and backwards maybe ), I suppose it could happen - so long as it is more accurate to what it is trying to emulate, I don't care

Or they just sacrifice articulation for a gimmick.

Wouldn't be the first time articulation has been neutered because of a gimmick.

Well, we've seen that they do have rotation, and that some helmets have joints to allow for this. the cg shots take some liberties, but the demo videos from sdcc and whatnot show this off. But I guess, if it was computrons had, it wouldn't be a headmaster in a helmet (nowhere for the helmet to go) so it could take liberties with it's design

I bet that Alligator/Crocodile will get repainted to with-in an inch of it's life - I'd not mind a City of Steel Optimus even if that does step on the toes of the idea of a Bat Optimus Titanmaster a bit.

I'd say it would be fun to have a Amazon twin pack style gift set with a Megatron Croc with an Optimus Bat in the set.

They they can just slap City of Steel Optimus in the main line so there is some sort of Optimus Deluxe toy.

It might be feasible to turn Hardhead into a Dynobot too. I would imagine they would stay away from making it a Tank Vehicon though.

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Any how - I don't personally object to gimics - I do though prefer that a character is given the 'appropriate' one when feasible. Some might see Blurr or Hot-Rodimus as Titanmasters as a bit to extreme of a change to really embrace though, perhaps even more so as it's suggested the reason they are getting toys is as a love letter to the animated Movie of the 1980's. If that was the case then headmasters are not really fulfilling that goal so well as no gimmick or Season 4 Style Targetmasters on those guys would.

RAR wrote:I bet that Alligator/Crocodile will get repainted to with-in an inch of it's life - I'd not mind a City of Steel Optimus even if that does step on the toes of the idea of a Bat Optimus Titanmaster a bit.

I'd say it would be fun to have a Amazon twin pack style gift set with a Megatron Croc with an Optimus Bat in the set.

They they can just slap City of Steel Optimus in the main line so there is some sort of Optimus Deluxe toy.

Well Mindwipe is rumoured to come along so Mindwipe and Skullcruncher could be BW Optimus and Megatron.

And that could be our BW 20th Anniversary set!

I don't see why everyone is so certain that every mold is going to get repainted to hell. I understand what happened in combiner wars has people on the defensive but I saw it as a way for them to pay for this next line and not rely on as many reuses in this line.

Re:Blaster - How easily people forget that Blaster has had three modern update toys before this one, all smaller than this Leader one, even:





FOC Blaster was repurposed as a version of G1 Blaster via the Cloud fiction.


It's not like this Leader is the end-all be-all only 1st party CHUG Blaster option.

steals_your_goats wrote:I don't see why everyone is so certain that every mold is going to get repainted to hell. I understand what happened in combiner wars has people on the defensive but I saw it as a way for them to pay for this next line and not rely on as many reuses in this line.

Hasbro has stated that making molds is expensive. So expensive they have to be used for at least two separate releases (redeco or retool) in order to break even. That doesn't always happen, mind you, but it does make us weary for (or prone to joke about) any potential reuse.

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:
Like I've said in other threads, it may be time for me to move on. I keep tabs on this thread, hoping to see something that makes me feel different, but I don't. Plus, with more and more children showing up on the threads (sorry, if your under 25, I now consider you a child), I'm starting to feel like the creepy old man, trying to hang on to his youth.

If you like Headmasters and want to see perfect G1 homages to them, then I recomend you keep a lookout. Hasbro is going to be giving 3p a run for its money, wait and see.
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No, they won't. Not in my opinion anyway. Takara can with the masterpiece line, but as Hasbro only sporadically puts out MPs, they will never hold a candle to what 3rd party offers the adult collector. Thats fine, even if I don't like it, I understand why they make it as broad appealing as possible, but the cheap quality and visibly hollow parts have just about ruined Hasbro/Takara main line figures for me.

Take Leader Class Ultra Magnus. One of the most awesome looking figures we've gotten in several years. I stress looking. In hand, he is cheap and flimsy. The hollowed arms stand out like big blinking neon signs. I'm so disgusted with what was my most looked forward to figure of the year, that I just about want to put it on the target stump where Motormaster met its demise.

Everything I've seen of the Titans line just seems to be more of the same. Awsome looking figures? Yeah, they are, but with so many cost cutting flaws, the awsome is drowned in a sea of **** soup. Yeah, I think I'm done. I might add a random figure here or there to the box of transformers I'm keeping for when my boys are older, but no more Hasbro product for me. I'm much happier and satisfied by a $100 3rd party deluxe than a $45 Hasbro leader.

funnily enough no mention of Megatron in the Titan Wars lineup yet?

Stuartmaximus wrote:funnily enough no mention of Megatron in the Titan Wars lineup yet?

We just got a pretty nice Megatron in combiner wars, I hope they just leave him alone and save a spot for another character