The Energon Pub

Leonardo wrote:Yes, that make sense.

It was the only thing I could think of.Altho when you think about it those that died could have eazly been brought back to life as so many others have...but I guess that who ever made that chart up felt that the events that took place in the end of the G2 book would have lead to a different future then the one the U.K. had already seen in their G1 comic.

Without remembering the specific events it's hard for me to say either way. I'm sure there's a reason the chart has been laid out like that, though.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:
I hate Armada with a passion but I watched the entire series. I never wanna watch it again though, once was enough.

I gave up about 15 or 20 episodes into the serries but I wasnt to into it.

I made it trew the 3/4 mark with Energon but I couldnt sit trew to the end.

I only saw the first 5 episodes od Cybertron and gave up.

So for me all 3 were a bust.

I'm still hoping that Animated will make up for the last 3 show's but I'm not expecting much better based on what we've seen so far.

Energon and Cybertron were both fairly good on their own. I try to forget they're a Trilligy and view them as seperate universe. I recomend doing the same and giveing Energon and Cybertron a second chance. If you're still not into them after that then that's OK.

Just doesn't sound like you've really given them a fair chance to me.

As for Armada, that series is one continuity error after another. I felt like I had wasted my life watching Armada which is why I'll never watch it again.

G1 wasn't perfect either but at least G1 had the benifit that each episode had it's own little plot rather than a continuas plot where every episode relies on the episode before to tell a story with plot holes the size of Alaska.

Simply put, G1 had alot of well writen stand alone episodes. Armada has... Past part 2, that's the only episode of Armada that can really stand on it's own.

Past part 1 is compleatly useless though. The 2 part episodes of Past both tell the same damn story about Hot Shot and Wheeljack. Part 2 didn't even look like a continuation of the previous episode but rather a retelling with better wrighting. Every seen from Past part 1 was allso in Past part 2.

Past part 1 allso had a story involving Sideswipe and Blurr I belive and Wheeljack just showed up at the end. Then in part 2 the focus was on Hot Shot and Wheeljack.

Anyway Past part 2 is the only episode of Armada I really liked, the rest felt like I waisted hours of life watching something completly horible that was writen by 5 year olds. Not FOR 5 year olds but BY 5 year olds.

Leonardo wrote:Without remembering the specific events it's hard for me to say either way. I'm sure there's a reason the chart has been laid out like that, though.

Well with out getting into all of the little details the U.K. G1 comic's future followed the event of the movie with Unicron first coming on the scene around the year 2005.

But the G2 comic followed the events of the U.S. G1 comic where Unicron first attacks Cybertron around the year 1990.

Thats a 15 year difference not to mention the fact that in the U.K. it was Rodimus Prime that destroyed Unicron and in the U.S. it was Powermaster Optimus Prime that killed Unicron.

Those may not be the only reasons for the chart being made that way but it had to be a major factor.

Saber Prime wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:
I hate Armada with a passion but I watched the entire series. I never wanna watch it again though, once was enough.

I gave up about 15 or 20 episodes into the serries but I wasnt to into it.

I made it trew the 3/4 mark with Energon but I couldnt sit trew to the end.

I only saw the first 5 episodes od Cybertron and gave up.

So for me all 3 were a bust.

I'm still hoping that Animated will make up for the last 3 show's but I'm not expecting much better based on what we've seen so far.

Energon and Cybertron were both fairly good on their own. I try to forget they're a Trilligy and view them as seperate universe. I recomend doing the same and giveing Energon and Cybertron a second chance. If you're still not into them after that then that's OK.

Just doesn't sound like you've really given them a fair chance to me.

As for Armada, that series is one continuity error after another. I felt like I had wasted my life watching Armada which is why I'll never watch it again.

G1 wasn't perfect either but at least G1 had the benifit that each episode had it's own little plot rather than a continuas plot where every episode relies on the episode before to tell a story with plot holes the size of Alaska.

Simply put, G1 had alot of well writen stand alone episodes. Armada has... Past part 2, that's the only episode of Armada that can really stand on it's own.

Past part 1 is compleatly useless though. The 2 part episodes of Past both tell the same damn story about Hot Shot and Wheeljack. Part 2 didn't even look like a continuation of the previous episode but rather a retelling with better wrighting. Every seen from Past part 1 was allso in Past part 2.

Past part 1 allso had a story involving Sideswipe and Blurr I belive and Wheeljack just showed up at the end. Then in part 2 the focus was on Hot Shot and Wheeljack.

Anyway Past part 2 is the only episode of Armada I really liked, the rest felt like I waisted hours of life watching something completly horible that was writen by 5 year olds. Not FOR 5 year olds but BY 5 year olds.

I've tried to watch them again not to long ago but theres one thing that bugs the hell out of me about all 3 shows that just got worce with each show.

It wasnt to bad in Armada but it got a little worse in Energon and then even more so in Cybertron.

It was the calling out loud of "Supermode" then "Powerlink" or "Butthole Transform" and by the time it got to the 3rd show they were calling out each attack!!!!!!!

Its a good thing that TF's dont have to go to the bathroom because I'm sure they would have been calling out each peace of $hi+ they left in the craper

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:
I hate Armada with a passion but I watched the entire series. I never wanna watch it again though, once was enough.

I gave up about 15 or 20 episodes into the serries but I wasnt to into it.

I made it trew the 3/4 mark with Energon but I couldnt sit trew to the end.

I only saw the first 5 episodes od Cybertron and gave up.

So for me all 3 were a bust.

I'm still hoping that Animated will make up for the last 3 show's but I'm not expecting much better based on what we've seen so far.

Energon and Cybertron were both fairly good on their own. I try to forget they're a Trilligy and view them as seperate universe. I recomend doing the same and giveing Energon and Cybertron a second chance. If you're still not into them after that then that's OK.

Just doesn't sound like you've really given them a fair chance to me.

As for Armada, that series is one continuity error after another. I felt like I had wasted my life watching Armada which is why I'll never watch it again.

G1 wasn't perfect either but at least G1 had the benifit that each episode had it's own little plot rather than a continuas plot where every episode relies on the episode before to tell a story with plot holes the size of Alaska.

Simply put, G1 had alot of well writen stand alone episodes. Armada has... Past part 2, that's the only episode of Armada that can really stand on it's own.

Past part 1 is compleatly useless though. The 2 part episodes of Past both tell the same damn story about Hot Shot and Wheeljack. Part 2 didn't even look like a continuation of the previous episode but rather a retelling with better wrighting. Every seen from Past part 1 was allso in Past part 2.

Past part 1 allso had a story involving Sideswipe and Blurr I belive and Wheeljack just showed up at the end. Then in part 2 the focus was on Hot Shot and Wheeljack.

Anyway Past part 2 is the only episode of Armada I really liked, the rest felt like I waisted hours of life watching something completly horible that was writen by 5 year olds. Not FOR 5 year olds but BY 5 year olds.

I've tried to watch them again not to long ago but theres one thing that bugs the hell out of me about all 3 shows that just got worce with each show.

It wasnt to bad in Armada but it got a little worse in Energon and then even more so in Cybertron.

It was the calling out loud of "Supermode" then "Powerlink" or "Butthole Transform" and by the time it got to the 3rd show they were calling out each attack!!!!!!!

Its a good thing that TF's dont have to go to the bathroom because I'm sure they would have been calling out each peace of $hi+ they left in the craper

Yes well that's the problem that comes with being made in Anime. Poke'mon, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh, ect. all do the same thing. Yu-gi-oh I think is the worst because they exsplain in exscrusiating detail what each card does and in every episode. It's like "I've seen that card 100 times now, I know how it works, just shut up and fight."

Seems like 1 Yu-gi-oh battle can last 6 episodes and the majority of that 3 hours is exsplaining how each individual card works. Would save alot of time if you just SHOWED how the card works insted of exsplaining it.

If I was in a Yu-gi-oh battle and my opponite started exsplaining every single card I'd be screaming "I know what it does, just play the damn thing so I can finish this before I turn 60!"

When you're watching a "battle" you exspect to see more "battleing" and less talking. How does that show hold anyone's attention for longer than 10 min. "Hey look, 2 huge monsters are on a battle field let's watch" 10 min. later "They're not moving, the guys controlling them have been talking for 10 min. time to change the channel."

Saber Prime wrote:
Yes well that's the problem that comes with being made in Anime. Poke'mon, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh, ect. all do the same thing. Yu-gi-oh I think is the worst because they exsplain in exscrusiating detail what each card does and in every episode. It's like "I've seen that card 100 times now, I know how it works, just shut up and fight."

Seems like 1 Yu-gi-oh battle can last 6 episodes and the majority of that 3 hours is exsplaining how each individual card works. Would save alot of time if you just SHOWED how the card works insted of exsplaining it.

If I was in a Yu-gi-oh battle and my opponite started exsplaining every single card I'd be screaming "I know what it does, just play the damn thing so I can finish this before I turn 60!"

When you're watching a "battle" you exspect to see more "battleing" and less talking. How does that show hold anyone's attention for longer than 10 min. "Hey look, 2 huge monsters are on a battle field let's watch" 10 min. later "They're not moving, the guys controlling them have been talking for 10 min. time to change the channel."

I just couldnt stand it....then to add indult to injury their was that other problem with the show that we already talked about [name's changing back and forth] that I couldnt get pass.

I can understand a few mishaps but the problem presisted trew all 40+ episodes each of both Armada and Energon.I didnt watch enough of Cybertron to know if they had any of those mistakes.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:
Yes well that's the problem that comes with being made in Anime. Poke'mon, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh, ect. all do the same thing. Yu-gi-oh I think is the worst because they exsplain in exscrusiating detail what each card does and in every episode. It's like "I've seen that card 100 times now, I know how it works, just shut up and fight."

Seems like 1 Yu-gi-oh battle can last 6 episodes and the majority of that 3 hours is exsplaining how each individual card works. Would save alot of time if you just SHOWED how the card works insted of exsplaining it.

If I was in a Yu-gi-oh battle and my opponite started exsplaining every single card I'd be screaming "I know what it does, just play the damn thing so I can finish this before I turn 60!"

When you're watching a "battle" you exspect to see more "battleing" and less talking. How does that show hold anyone's attention for longer than 10 min. "Hey look, 2 huge monsters are on a battle field let's watch" 10 min. later "They're not moving, the guys controlling them have been talking for 10 min. time to change the channel."

I just couldnt stand it....then to add indult to injury their was that other problem with the show that we already talked about [name's changing back and forth] that I couldnt get pass.

I can understand a few mishaps but the problem presisted trew all 40+ episodes each of both Armada and Energon.I didnt watch enough of Cybertron to know if they had any of those mistakes.

Energon didn't really have any nameing errors. They only had thoughs two names mixed up from the toy versions but that mistake, if it was a mistake was keeped throughout the series. Personally I think the toys were labed with the wrong names not the cartoon was wrong. (Allthough that one guy I'd rather not call him by either name because he looks supiciously like G1 Wheeljack)

Saber Prime wrote:
Energon didn't really have any nameing errors. They only had thoughs two names mixed up from the toy versions but that mistake, if it was a mistake was keeped throughout the series.

They did only mix up the names of 2 characters but it was not consistent.They did call both characters by their toys name from time to time.

I proved that to you already when you dared me to find one episode that called the characters by their toy names.Maybe you missed the post so I give you the episodes again

Transformers Energon: Distribution time frame 02:02
http://youtube.com/watch?v=u6p1V0B2ft8&feature=related

Transformers Energon: Decepticon Army time frame 00:22
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VzNWcEUIZEA&feature=related

Transformers Energon: Destructive Power time frame 05:42
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4OZxOxStg5Q

Transformers Energon: Spark time frame 06:10
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UqCbmAGLcFM

Saber Prime wrote: Personally I think the toys were labed with the wrong names not the cartoon was wrong. (Allthough that one guy I'd rather not call him by either name because he looks supiciously like G1 Wheeljack)

You might be right about that.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:
Energon didn't really have any nameing errors. They only had thoughs two names mixed up from the toy versions but that mistake, if it was a mistake was keeped throughout the series.

They did only mix up the names of 2 characters but it was not consistent.They did call both characters by their toys name from time to time.

I proved that to you already when you dared me to find one episode that called the characters by their toy names.Maybe you missed the post so I give you the episodes again

Transformers Energon: Distribution time frame 02:02
http://youtube.com/watch?v=u6p1V0B2ft8&feature=related

Transformers Energon: Decepticon Army time frame 00:22
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VzNWcEUIZEA&feature=related

Transformers Energon: Destructive Power time frame 05:42
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4OZxOxStg5Q

Transformers Energon: Spark time frame 06:10
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UqCbmAGLcFM

Saber Prime wrote: Personally I think the toys were labed with the wrong names not the cartoon was wrong. (Allthough that one guy I'd rather not call him by either name because he looks supiciously like G1 Wheeljack)

You might be right about that.

I didn't see the post. I've been in alot of pain for the last couple days. I feel close to OK now but I still can't stay at the computer for more than an hour at a time.

Saber Prime wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:
Energon didn't really have any nameing errors. They only had thoughs two names mixed up from the toy versions but that mistake, if it was a mistake was keeped throughout the series.

They did only mix up the names of 2 characters but it was not consistent.They did call both characters by their toys name from time to time.

I proved that to you already when you dared me to find one episode that called the characters by their toy names.Maybe you missed the post so I give you the episodes again

Transformers Energon: Distribution time frame 02:02
http://youtube.com/watch?v=u6p1V0B2ft8&feature=related

Transformers Energon: Decepticon Army time frame 00:22
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VzNWcEUIZEA&feature=related

Transformers Energon: Destructive Power time frame 05:42
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4OZxOxStg5Q

Transformers Energon: Spark time frame 06:10
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UqCbmAGLcFM

Saber Prime wrote: Personally I think the toys were labed with the wrong names not the cartoon was wrong. (Allthough that one guy I'd rather not call him by either name because he looks supiciously like G1 Wheeljack)

You might be right about that.

I didn't see the post. I've been in alot of pain for the last couple days. I feel close to OK now but I still can't stay at the computer for more than an hour at a time.

WSorry to hear that.....is it something your used too or is it something new?

I've had back problems before but not like this. This was just something totally random that seemed to pop up from nothing.

Basically Sunday while I was at work my back was feeling a little sore which is normal so I thought nothing of it. Then throught the day it just kept getting worse till I was no longer able to bend down. I ended up kicking props under the table back stage rather than picking them up.

Seemed verry strainge considering I don't do anything that's stressfull to my back, there's no heavy lifting or anything, it just randomly started to hurt.

It's toned down alot sence then though. I'm able to move as normal again but I still can't stay at the computer verry long before I have to go lie down.

Seems to be a muscle just to the left of my spine that tightened up on me.

Saber Prime wrote:I've had back problems before but not like this. This was just something totally random that seemed to pop up from nothing.

Basically Sunday while I was at work my back was feeling a little sore which is normal so I thought nothing of it. Then throught the day it just kept getting worse till I was no longer able to bend down. I ended up kicking props under the table back stage rather than picking them up.

Seemed verry strainge considering I don't do anything that's stressfull to my back, there's no heavy lifting or anything, it just randomly started to hurt.

It's toned down alot sence then though. I'm able to move as normal again but I still can't stay at the computer verry long before I have to go lie down.

Seems to be a muscle just to the left of my spine that tightened up on me.

This might sound crazy but you should try lieing down face up on some thing very very cold.Take a soaking wet towel and place it in the freazer for a few hours.then put it on the floor and lay on top of it as long as you can take it.

Its helped me in the past and I have always done heavy lifting for a livving.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:I've had back problems before but not like this. This was just something totally random that seemed to pop up from nothing.

Basically Sunday while I was at work my back was feeling a little sore which is normal so I thought nothing of it. Then throught the day it just kept getting worse till I was no longer able to bend down. I ended up kicking props under the table back stage rather than picking them up.

Seemed verry strainge considering I don't do anything that's stressfull to my back, there's no heavy lifting or anything, it just randomly started to hurt.

It's toned down alot sence then though. I'm able to move as normal again but I still can't stay at the computer verry long before I have to go lie down.

Seems to be a muscle just to the left of my spine that tightened up on me.

This might sound crazy but you should try lieing down face up on some thing very very cold.Take a soaking wet towel and place it in the freazer for a few hours.then put it on the floor and lay on top of it as long as you can take it.

Its helped me in the past and I have always done heavy lifting for a livving.

That's what I've been doing, that among other things.

Heating pad, Icy Hot Cream (should really be called Warm Burning cream. There is no Icy in Icy Hot.), and my shower head has a massage setting so last night I was in the shower with that thing pointed at the sore spot for about an hour. I think I'll end up doing that again tonight.