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Well, I know I am the only one who appreciates a good 3" tit, For Primal and Megs I feel they should have made BW insignia bases but alas they did not to be cheap and use the same bases generically, so I have taken up the reigns and did so my self.

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Althought the 6? inch Cheetor from BM did have the new style Maximal logo form BW, and the other bases for them had different symbols for the fallen too.

It is basically styrene that I transferred the pattern on and then razored out , then glued it on to another sheet to get the raised effect and also to add strength. Then drilled and inserted a piece of model sprue for the peg.

I intend it to be the base for my super posable Primal I am making slowly, broke my GF's old lighter and now can not burn the holes I need, I got one arm done though, super articulated being the waist and elbows lol.

I do need help though, I want to paint the raised section red and then overcoat the base in black, then us an off white, but the red I do not want to just paint with acrylics, should I just use Krylon fusion red?

I have dyed a couple of things recently and am afraid the styrene would warp too easy, thanks

wow! that lkooks like a proto or test shot now but will look like a final prod version when finished

Looks pretty cool

if they all had bases like that id have probably bought some

I like where this is going.

And you're probably right about the dyeing; you'd have to immerse it hot water, and that probably would warp the styrene, and it might have an adverse effect on the cement, too. Just a guess.

One possibility is casting. Once you've finalised the shape of the base, I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to make a mould off it (latex, perhaps?), and then you could make coloured resin castings; cast it in red, then paint the details and seal it.

Thanks alot guys, I would love to cast it, I wanted to make a Spychangers Octane from an UltraMagnus then cast it but I never really got the stuff to do it with, another project sidtracked as usual.

Thanks for the good replies I was afraid with everyone's seething hatred of tits this would be not so popular lol.

Also I am working on a Spychangers Skullcruncher, when I get pics I will put it up, it was an unfortunate side effect of my first dye attempt.

Lookin pretty sweet there!!!!

Ram rider, would sculpey work for a mold? I used it to make a mold for a Z Gundam head once but I had no box or anyhting, if I went to Walmart and got those small craft boxes then filled them with sculpey and baked, wood does not catch fire in the oven, would that make a viable mold?

Then could I use that Milliput( I used Brown stuff for the gundam heads) to actually cast it in I know this would not solve the color issue, but that stuff is cheap right? Then I could just spray that? It would be nice to have multiples,as always thats the problem of making things always needing more of the custom part.

Sculpey might work for a mould, but I have my reservations. I've never used the stuff myself yet (although I have potential plans for it soon), but if I understand correctly, it's pretty rigid once baked, and you could really do with something quite flexible so it's easier to both remove from the master, and to take the cast out of. On top of that, you'd have to remove the master from the mould before you baked it, otherwise the styrene would just melt in the oven. And when you removed the master, you'd likely wind up deforming the mould trying to get it off.

That's why I suggested latex. It shouldn't be too expensive (in fact, for something like this, you could quite probably just paint on latex glue), and it takes details really well. And of course, it flexes really well, and as long as it's thick enough, should just bounce back into shape.


For the castings, something like Milliput may work. If you work it enough and add a little water, it should be soft enough to push into the corners of the mould.
I'd recommend a more liquid medium, though, to be sure. Resin would be pretty much ideal; you can pour it into the mould, and it'll find its own way into most of the tricky spots. When it's set, it'll be solid enough to support the fig, and probably take a fair beating, too. And you can get pigments to sort the colour out.
Another alternative might be plaster of paris, which should give you similar results, but with a different finish (resin would be more like plastic, plaster closer to stone). And it'd probably work out cheaper, too.

So, what exactly would I need I would love to go the latex and resin way, but the only experience I had with it was a friend of mine who used it in school and it turned out to be the consistency of Rice Krispies.

So if you could tell me exactly what to get it would be fantastic.

Rice Krispies? I have no idea how that even makes sense...

Like I said, the mould is easy. I can think of two ways offhand of doing it; one would be to mount the master in a box and pour the latex over the top until it just covers the master. Once it's set you'll be able to take the mould out, and it'll be nice and square, and ready for use.
The second, and possibly easier, way would be to simply paint the latex on. I've done this using latex glue (here, we have Copydex, I don't know what brands are available where you are); it's even supplied with a handy brush in the lid. Paint on a layer, let it dry, then paint on another layer and repeat. After a few layers, you can peel the latex off, and you've got yourself a mould.

The resin will be trickier to advise you on, not least because again I don't know what's available where you are. Your best bet would be to check out a local hobby/craft store; if there's one of any decent size near you, they'll likely have a section that deals with casting.

There's a good deal of useful advice on the subject here - I think it was Hobbyist Prime who pointed this one out. Check out the How To section. There's also a fair bit of info if you do a search for casting or moulding (or molding?) on these here forumses on which we lurk.

It was this 2 part resin/plastic stuff he made small figures of his characters in his demo reel the guys looked like rice crispies, they were full of like air pockets and the first few were crunchy after they hardened, I suppose it was the ratio of the mix that was off.

Go to someplace like Walco and purchase their sample size of platinum based molding silicone. It's is about $40 last I checked but you could make dozens of molds that size from it! After that you can cast in pretty much anything you want to except metal unless you have the metal epoxies!