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News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:33 pm

I'm glad to see this topic getting some life after this long!

Funny that the later posters agree with me that Moviverse Prime would win the duel.

I never doubted the abilities of G1 Prime. He IS a force to reckon with. Unfortunately, only Movie Prime will be willing to fight dirty and deliver the killing blow.

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:42 pm

G1 Prime's very first action is mowing down a line of Decepticon soldiers without even batting the proverbial optic sensor and then doing a damned quip about it. He 'took the fight' to Lord Chumley and pretty much every single Decepticon, only pausing when human life would be in danger... like Movie Prime did in the 2007 movie against Megatron.

Not to mention that he's simply far stronger, far tougher, more experience and more technologically advanced.

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:40 pm

News Credits: 4 · by **MasterSoundBlaster** » Wed May 30, 2012 8:07 pm

To me MV Prime seems kinda "fragile." After being shot several times,he loses pieces and is almost falling apart. G1 Prime seems (to me) more sturdy and can take some good damage. Almost I gotta give it to G1 Prime and that he only needs a Ion Blaster and Energon-Hand Ax to defeat his foes whereas MV prime has to rely on a diverse array of weaponry AND flight tech. In the '86 movie, Prime took out a diverse group of Cons with just his alt mode and his gun. In DOTM when Prime flew threw chicago,He needed a Jetpack,miniguns,blades,ion cannons,missles,etc. Yes MV prime has all these weapons and could take down G1 Prime,but I think G1 Prime is more resourceful with just his one gun.

Final Verdict IMHO: G1 Optimus Prime

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:45 am

G1 Prime is simply stronger, sturdier, has more powerful weapons and the 'Movie Prime is more ruthless!' falls apart with even a cursory glance at G1 Prime.

Movie Prime's weapons might start damaging G1 Prime after a sustained assault.

One shot from G1 Prime either cripples, maims or outright kills movie Prime.

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:49 pm

Well -Kanrabat- did say this was a prime-for-all, so I'm going to go with RID Omega Prime. Try beating that.

by **Microraptor** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:44 pm

Movie Prime. His diverse weaponry and hand-to-hand combat skill would make mincemeat out of G1 Prime. Just look at the fight between Prime and Megs in the 86 movie, Prime gets his aft handed to him. Now imagine Megs being stronger, faster, more agile, and with a veritable cornucopia of pop-out blades and guns. G1 Prime would be SCREWED.

News Credits: 3604 · by **Seibertron** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:15 pm

Microraptor wrote:Movie Prime. His diverse weaponry and hand-to-hand combat skill would make mincemeat out of G1 Prime. Just look at the fight between Prime and Megs in the 86 movie, Prime gets his aft handed to him. Now imagine Megs being stronger, faster, more agile, and with a veritable cornucopia of pop-out blades and guns. G1 Prime would be SCREWED.

Sadly, I have to agree with this. Movie Optimus Prime isn't afraid to get his hands dirty which would unfortunately really be a disadvantage to G1 Optimus Prime.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:10 am

Seibertron wrote:
Microraptor wrote:Movie Prime. His diverse weaponry and hand-to-hand combat skill would make mincemeat out of G1 Prime. Just look at the fight between Prime and Megs in the 86 movie, Prime gets his aft handed to him. Now imagine Megs being stronger, faster, more agile, and with a veritable cornucopia of pop-out blades and guns. G1 Prime would be SCREWED.

Sadly, I have to agree with this. Movie Optimus Prime isn't afraid to get his hands dirty which would unfortunately really be a disadvantage to G1 Optimus Prime.

Even Peter Cullen took notice of this....change in character that he is portraying. Movie Prime plays dirty.

by **Microraptor** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:11 pm

I still fail to see how being more willing to kill in a WAR constitutes as "fighting dirty".

by **North Sunrider** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:02 am

The triumph of good over evil is pretty much a given in Transformers.

Therefore, ANY G1 character, including any of the Decepticons, including Spike, Daniel and even WHEELIE, would triumph over any creation of Michael Bay, whether it is Transformers-related or not.

The real question here is why don't they all team up together and travel back in time to stop Michael Bay from happening. >:oP

by **tffan01** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:33 pm

I don't think it's that easy.

Firstly, the humans need special "sabot" rounds to damage Transformers in the movieverse. Otherwise, weapons like Maverick missiles do jack **** to them (look at Scorponok, for instance). They also survive re-entry. Heck, in TLK, Optimus survived an uncontrolled re-entry to Cybertron (which had comparable gravity to that of Earth's) in robot mode like it was nothing (I know at the time this thread was created, TLK wasn't out yet but still).

Some people like to include G1 Prime's oil tanker throw feat. Yet, in the first episode, he failed to lift off a much smaller object (which wasn't even solid). Unless you people are going to tell me that he had a MASSIVE strenght upgrade, I'm going to say it's really inconsistent (more inconsistent than the other TF incarnations).

Also, G1 TFs rarely fight as violently as the movie TFs and in the instances where they do, like TF:TM (which wasn't operating under the 80s cartoon rules, so there was less stupid ****) they were still a lot less energetic than the movie fights and they were SERIOUSLY hurting each other. Prime was down for the count after a few shots to his exposed wounds. The evidence shows that Movie Prime would survive that. It would hurt him, but he would shrug it off (look at forest fight).

As for weapons, what can G1 Prime's weapons do? I saw it blowing up tanks in the cartoon. If that's its best feat, Movie TFs can survive that. As I said before, Scorponok tanked maverick missiles with no visible damage.

G1 TFs are technologically more advanced? Just because they fire lasers instead of bullets? Just because G1 guns go pew pew doesn't mean they have more destructive force than the movie TF guns. Plus, some movie TFs also use similiar weapons.