Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:15 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:That "Frosty" 2007 voyager Megatron is a great toy. But obviously, the MPM is perfection.

Also, you were 12 at the time of the first TF movie?
I was young too at that time... Ah, to be 31 again...

The MPM is great quality too. I plan to talk more about him tomorrow, but so far I have very little to complain about. He's really good quality. And heavy too. Lots of die cast in him.

And yep, 12 when the movie came out. That was my door in


I was a G1 kid and my first was Optimus Prime. That was one awesome way to start! Then I got Defensor and Apeface. However, this dumb brat destroyed/donated/sold them all.... Those were the only transformers I ever got as a kid.

But then, the 2007 movie sparked the flames and the ROTF one sealed the deal. Got all of those G1s back too... at great Ebay price, of course.
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:58 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:That said, from a certified hater, that figure does look gorgeous. I don't know how the quality holds up on it (the larger MPMs have a **** track record), in the looks department, they knocked it straight out of the park.

Honestly, this guy’s pretty solid. He’s way less fiddly than Optimus; everything tabs together in both modes pretty well, and I’m not worried about breaking any fragile bits off of him.

In Robot Mode, I wish he had more ankle tiltage, more poseable fingers, and a more accurate flail accessory. But aside from those minor quibbles, I’m pretty stoked to have him.

“Jet-thing” mode is relatively simple to get him into, but I feel as though his “arm nacelles” are pointing more upward than the “nosecone”. And then of course there’s that massive case of VHS (Visible Head Syndrome), but whatever.
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:49 pm

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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:09 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yeah, well, by the conceits of movieverse design that VHS is supposed to be how he sees, so... At least it's accurate.


Bayverse (and Prime's) Megatron simply doesn't give a single fok about disguising and hiding. I like that because it just show that Megatron is one powerful (and overconfident) MOFO.
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:10 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yeah, well, by the conceits of movieverse design that VHS is supposed to be how he sees, so... At least it's accurate.


Bayverse (and Prime's) Megatron simply doesn't give a single fok about disguising and hiding. I like that because it just show that Megatron is one powerful (and overconfident) MOFO.
Well, why does the alien vehicle mode need to be a disguise? Or have a cockpit?
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:56 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yeah, well, by the conceits of movieverse design that VHS is supposed to be how he sees, so... At least it's accurate.


Bayverse (and Prime's) Megatron simply doesn't give a single fok about disguising and hiding. I like that because it just show that Megatron is one powerful (and overconfident) MOFO.
Well, why does the alien vehicle mode need to be a disguise? Or have a cockpit?


The alien vehicles (at least in the Bayverse) are NOT disguises. They serve a function that the bot mode cannot do meaning flying or burly ground combat. As for the "cockpits" they are merely decorative. I don't remember any Bayverse alien vehicles have cockpits appart from non-transforming vehicles meant to be piloted.

Only on Earth where disguising themselves in altmode is important... unless you are a powerful :CON: who just don't care.
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:53 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yeah, well, by the conceits of movieverse design that VHS is supposed to be how he sees, so... At least it's accurate.


Bayverse (and Prime's) Megatron simply doesn't give a single fok about disguising and hiding. I like that because it just show that Megatron is one powerful (and overconfident) MOFO.
Well, why does the alien vehicle mode need to be a disguise? Or have a cockpit?


The alien vehicles (at least in the Bayverse) are NOT disguises. They serve a function that the bot mode cannot do meaning flying or burly ground combat. As for the "cockpits" they are merely decorative. I don't remember any Bayverse alien vehicles have cockpits appart from non-transforming vehicles meant to be piloted.

Only on Earth where disguising themselves in altmode is important... unless you are a powerful :CON: who just don't care.

Pretty much this ^ I'd also add that the disguises are mandatory through the Transformers all powerful god...Hasbro ;)
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"Oh, So Unwise..." A Pictorial Review of Movie Masterpiece MPM-08 Megatron

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:55 pm

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The time has come, and MPM-08 Movie Masterpiece Megatron is arriving in-hand for all the movie fans (and hopefully more fans elsewhere) to enjoy. As a huge movie fan myself, I could not wait for this figure. I was more excited for this figure than I was for any other figure this year, including MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron, Ectotron, and even MPM-09 Jazz. This specific Megatron has a very special place in my heart, and I really wanted it to be good.

So is it?

In the famous words of another Megatron: Yessssss

Let's start just by looking at this robot mode head on. The figure is faultless. The design is dead on to the original Movie Megatron design. It's also both cool and important because this is the first mainline figure to utilize that Movie 1 design since the first movie itself.

Let's take a look.

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The robot mode is tall, hefty, and imposing. He looks like he walked right off the 2007 theatre.

Now take a look at that headsculpt! That is a mean Megatron face right there, captured in gorgeous detail and with some well placed paint to help it stand out. The mouth is posable, and it looks great open or closed. They nailed it.

And take a look at how tall he is! This Masterpiece figure is as tall as a Prime Wars Combiner, which is really impressive.

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Looking around the figure some more, there is a backpack on him, but honestly considering the design, I think this is as close as they could get to minimizing it. The good thing is that backpack is only really noticeable once you start moving around to view him from behind, and it blends in fairly well from a back view.

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Also, while we are around back, take a look at the weapon storage. The gun tabs in down behind his waist, and the flail piece pegs into the gun and the back stabilizer wing.

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And here we have my favorite of his accessories: the Allspark. I have wanted one of these since the movie came out, and it is awesome to see it here. The cube is very intricately detailed, and is painted a beautiful silver.

The cube itself can fit into Megatron's chest, so you can recreate his famous 2007 Death Scene, or maybe just pretend he is powered up on it. either way, that translucent red plastic in his chest is fantastic looking.

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Since we are now on accessories, take a look at that flail. Now, this is one of the few down points about this figure that I have. The flail is made of soft plastic, so while he can swing it around and pose it, it is subject to the laws of gravity, so you can't get all the poses you want out of it, such as a mid-air flying flail. But it is still a nice piece, and I appreciate that they recreated the movie where he literally pulls his hand out of his arm into a flail.

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His final accessory is his cannon. Now the cannon has 2 forms. The first is a blaster mode, where it replaces one of his hands and forms a pretty wicked looking gun hand. It makes a nice companion piece to his other hand has a flail.

The other form is that of his dual-handed fusion cannon, as seen in the first movie when he blasts Optimus. I really like the way they have it wielded and how it perfectly recreates his pose from the movie. I appreciate the effort they put into making it a single hand gun as well as a dual-handed cannon.

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Posing Megatron is also really fun. His fingers are all articulated, the head has multiple hinges to move around wherever you need it to go, and the arms and legs are very posable. The ankle tilts are a bit of an issue. He has some good ankle tilts with a lot of movement, but they have a soft tab area where they are either right upright or they are free to move and tilt, which limit his shallower ankle tiltage.

Before we get to comparisons, one last thing: he has spectacular light piping.

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So for some comparisons, here we have him beside his original voyager toy from 2007, his recent Revenge of the Fallen Studio Series toy, and the other Movie Masterpiece figures that have been released since the 2nd Bumblebee figure of the line.

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Breaking the mold of the larger Movie Masterpiece figures, Megatron's transformation is really fun! It takes less time to transform him than any of the other Movie Masterpiece figures, and he is far less finicky than any of the others too. It is fun to transform him, and it's not much of a chore.

The jet mode is a really nice looking alien jet mode too. Unlike a large portion of the fandom, I really like his 2007 jet mode, visible head and all. This is a lean and mean Megatron ready to batter you into submission. And the visible head makes his jet mode pretty darn scary when you see it flying at you.

It's also a very heavy robot, and the jet mode is not only huge in size, but you can feel the weight when you pick it up. The die cast is included in his midsection and his feet, so the weight is faily nicely distributed throughout, and the die cast in the middle of the jet mode fits in great with the plastic surrounding it, really giving Megatron a metal jet heart.

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He also does a fairly good job of blending his robot parts in with the jet parts. While the robot parts are not fully hidden away, they add to his mean jet aesthetic, with the fingers giving the nose a pointy feel, and his feet looking like massive jet boosters.

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He also has some good weapon storage in this mode. The blaster tucks away between his robot mode feet, and blends in flawlessly with the back of the jet. The flail is a little less subtle, pegging in beside the jet. But at least it has somewhere to go.

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And here we have his jet mode beside his 2007 self and some recent Studio Series Constructicons. His jet mode is absolutely massive.

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So the final verdict on Megatron: He is spectacular. He was such an anticipated figure, and he lived up to expectations. He is massive, accurate, posable, and fun to play with. Robot mode can move and is beautiful, the transformation is fun, and the jet mode is absolutely gigantic. He's heavy, and he's tight.

He has a few weak spots. The ankle tilts could use a little bit better and smoother movement, the fingers could be made of a little bit more sturdy plastic, and the flail could have been made stiffer and segmented for posing. But those are minor points considering how much is excellent about this figure.

As the 2007 Megatron voyager was my first ever Transformer, I have been waiting a long time for this update. And I could not be happier with it. They nailed this Megatron, finally giving proper justice for the first Megatron many of us got to see and love.

Well done.

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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:12 pm

I got that same bumblebee pillow as a gift. It’s very soft and comfy
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:14 pm

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Randomhero wrote:I got that same bumblebee pillow as a gift. It’s very soft and comfy

Really, that's what you got out of all that? :lol:

Although we can both agree those pillows are very comfy
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby TulioDude » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:34 pm

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Nice review!

I always thought this was one of the most imposing Megatron's designs.


Are joints in the arms strong enough to hold other toys?I'm asking because since he is meant to hold Jazz,I'm wondering who else he can lift with his BARE HANDS!
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:37 pm

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TulioDude wrote:Nice review!

I always thought this was one of the most imposing Megatron's designs.


Are joints in the arms strong enough to hold other toys?I'm asking because since he is meant to hold Jazz,I'm wondering who else he can lift with his BARE HANDS!

I haven't tried holding other figures in his arms yet, but he does have some pretty nice ratchets. The shoulders seem to be a bit weaker than the elbows, so i'm not sure about them yet. But I have confidence those elbows won't droop, they are strong
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby CobraKai » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:40 pm

I wish I can afford him. He’s my favorite iteration of Bay’s Megatron.

Im hoping a Studio Series release using similar engineering is in the works
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby SGMLordMirage » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:40 pm

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Besides the consensus on the fluffy pillows. :-D =P~ , definitely good review D-Max. I have not taken the plunge to get him just yet but he does look good!

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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:43 pm

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CobraKai wrote:I wish I can afford him. He’s my favorite iteration of Bay’s Megatron.

Im hoping a Studio Series release using similar engineering is in the works

I imagine it would not be difficult. his jet cannon unfolds from his chest, his arms rotate up and collapse into the chest space, and his legs are the MP version of CW Offroad/Aerialbots.
SGMLordMirage wrote:Besides the consensus on the fluffy pillows. :-D =P~ , definitely good review D-Max. I have not taken the plunge to get him just yet but he does look good!

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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby SGMLordMirage » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:47 pm

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So when does he make his debut at the office?
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:52 pm

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SGMLordMirage wrote:So when does he make his debut at the office?

He actually did today

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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby SGMLordMirage » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:01 pm

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Postby SkyFire Prime » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:04 pm

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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:32 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I got that same bumblebee pillow as a gift. It’s very soft and comfy

Really, that's what you got out of all that? :lol:

Although we can both agree those pillows are very comfy



What can be said about Megatron that hasn’t already?

That pillow however...
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:37 pm

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the one thing about this megatron that really annoys me is his hands
every other character has distinguishable hands with actual fingers but this guy
they had to give him weird looking thing-a-ma-bobbers
imagine if he had at least something resembling fingers with sharp claws
would look so much better
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Re: "Oh, So Unwise..." A Pictorial Review of Movie Masterpiece MPM-08 Megatron

Postby transformers_va » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:13 pm

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Nice review! :D

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Whilst I've never been a huge fan of the Bayformers, I just received Megatron today and I'm actually pleasantly surprised. The detailing and paint job are very well done, and he feels solid.

My only real gripes are having to fully remove the hands in order to attach the weapon, and his shoulders.. they remind me way too much of the Mondoshawans. I think the shoulders on the Studio Series Megatron looked much better.

Overall though, if you like the Bayformers, this is a good figure to have. ;)^
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby CobraKai » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:49 am

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
CobraKai wrote:I wish I can afford him. He’s my favorite iteration of Bay’s Megatron.

Im hoping a Studio Series release using similar engineering is in the works

I imagine it would not be difficult. his jet cannon unfolds from his chest, his arms rotate up and collapse into the chest space, and his legs are the MP version of CW Offroad/Aerialbots.
SGMLordMirage wrote:Besides the consensus on the fluffy pillows. :-D =P~ , definitely good review D-Max. I have not taken the plunge to get him just yet but he does look good!

SGM

thanks! And he does look and feel amazing!


BTW. Thank you for the pictorial review. Usually when video reviews pop up, I tend to skip them, but a nice written pictorial review is something I will always appreciate.

Also the pillow set up made Megatron look like he has huge butterfly wings at first
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:25 am

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Yeah he looks fantastic. Way out of my budget though but yeah hoping for a Studio version that's pretty much scaled down of this one. :)

I always liked that his head was kinda visible in his 2007 and RotF vehicle forms. Cos he's not in disguise, just in transport mode. He wants you to know it's him. It's not until a couple major defeats that he finally chooses an Earth-like alt-mode in DotM that does hide his head cos he feels he needs to be more disguised while recovering from shame of the defeats and loss of the Fallen.
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Re: Movie Masterpiece Megatron and Jazz MPM-08 and MPM-09 Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:59 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I got that same bumblebee pillow as a gift. It’s very soft and comfy

Really, that's what you got out of all that? :lol:

Although we can both agree those pillows are very comfy


That’s what stood out to me as well. :x
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