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Decepticlone Soundwave wrote:Here's the way I see it:

G1 Ravage boards The Ark w/the rest of the G1 Decepticons.
Ark crashes on Prehistoric Earth
BW Megatron flies the Nemesis & fails; it crashes in South America
Mt. St. Hilary Erupts, G1 Transformers wake up.
Events of G1 take place.
Decepticons lose the Great War.
Ravage granted Amnesty by the Maximal Elders.
BW Ravage travels back in time & is destroyed.

Now, say just on a small chance we saw the different stages of Earth after the Maximals left. If we saw everything, we'd eventually get to 1984 again, & the Autobots & Decepticons wake up again. Thus:

Events of G1 take place.
Decepticons lose the Great War.
Ravage granted Amnesty by the Maximal Elders
Travels back in time & gets destroyed

It might seem weird to some of you, but that's what I see.....

Hmm. Isn't that basically what I wrote? With nothing confusing in it? I can't understand why people have trouble with the Ravage timeline. He doesn't cause any paradoxes, he doesn't create any alternate timeline, he doesn't screw up history in anyway. So where is the problem? (this is not directed at you Decepticlone SOundwave, but to people in general who can't comprehend it.)

Okay, then you agree that Ravage will keep going back in time & dying, only to be awakened again & do the same thing?

Decepticlone Soundwave wrote:Okay, then you agree that Ravage will keep going back in time & dying, only to be awakened again & do the same thing?

Urm, no. He only does it once. If he travelled back in time and possessed his comatose G1 body aboard the Ark, then I would agree. But he didn't. There are 2 Ravage's on Earth during The Agenda. the G1 aboard the Ark, and the Predicon who gets killed. You seem to be shifting perceptions. Which is where I think you are getting confused. This is not the case. From Ravage's perspective:

Blasts off on the Nemesis.
Boards the Ark.
Lies in Stasis Lock for 4 million years.
Awakens in 1984.
G1.
Cons get defeated. Ravage is granted amnesty.
At some point in the next 300 years, he gets rebuilt into a new predicon body and becomes a covert agent for the Tripredicus council.
Gets ordered to go back in time and kill Megatron II.
Goes back and 'The Agenda' happens.
He dies.

That's it. End of life. Game over. No more time travel for the kitty.

OR

from the Earth's perspective:

Ark crashes with G1 ravage aboard.
Predicon Ravage arrives from the future. The Agenda happens. Predicon Ravage dies.

*THERE ARE NOW TWO NON MOVING RAVAGE'S ON EARTH. THE G1 ABOARD THE ARK AND THE DEAD PRED*

In 1984, G1 Ravage awakens.
G1 happens.
Cons get defeated. Ravage is granted amnesty.
At some point in the next 300 years, he gets rebuilt into a new predicon body and becomes a covert agent for the Tripredicus council.
Gets ordered to go back in time and kill Megatron II.
Leaves this time frame.

Nothing more is heard from Ravage unless his ship's blackbox or his battered Predicon body is dug up on Earth somewhere.

It can only be viewed from one perspective or the other. Not both or you will get confused.

Hope that helps.

Yes, Insurgent's correct. That's how it works. Ravage creates no paradoxes and no contradictions. If he doesn't create any paradoxes, why is there confusion? Predacon Ravage's death doesn't affect the Decepticon Ravage in stasis aboard the Ark.