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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It is always a fine line in Transformers. You can have witty/one liner humour (Rattrap) dark humour (BW Rampage) or, unfortunately all too often, comic relief. Your Silverbolt/Waspinator types.
I'd use Siege examples over Beast Wars. Except I watched it through twice and struggle to remember any comedic moments or characters.
I started watching Beast Wars again yesterday, I'm about halfway through season 1. I still think it's the best TV series in Transformers history, followed by Prime, and I have a faint hope that Kingdom ends up being a sort of prequel for it. Or even if it officially won't be, maybe the events play out so that it could be thought of as such. When they showed Dinobot (or was it just a velociraptor?) at the end of ER I could have sworn I was looking at the character from Beast Wars season 1.william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It is always a fine line in Transformers. You can have witty/one liner humour (Rattrap) dark humour (BW Rampage) or, unfortunately all too often, comic relief. Your Silverbolt/Waspinator types.
I'd use Siege examples over Beast Wars. Except I watched it through twice and struggle to remember any comedic moments or characters.
I love how the use of situational comedy in Beast Wars. Like when Scorponok kept saying he was next in line to command but when the time came for him to actually command he had no clue how to do it.
What a great show.
I didn't say anything about humor.o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:To get back on track, I'm going to vent for just a second.
It is frustrating how every time we get an "adult-aimed" Transformers cartoon it's something made by people who are convinced that adults only want to watch something miserable and depressing, devoid of any and all joy, charm, or charisma.
Yesterday I was watching this for the 2nd time with my son, and while Humor is not the dominant trait of this TF series, it certainly wasn't devoid of humor.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Give the Japanese version of Armada a chance. It's better written, better acted, and makes worlds more sense than the English version. Karyuudo Fansubs subbed it.o.supreme wrote:The writers of Beast Wars are some of the best no doubt, but I'm sure there are plenty of threads to go give praise that BW rightly deserves. All I can say is I can derive some level of entertainment from almost any TF series, Armada, Cyberverse, and Prime Wars being the Exceptions.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
just_aCloud wrote:Not to be too contrarian or anything but I'm actually enjoying WFC so far.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Cyberverse proved that a Transformers show can be set on Earth in the present day without any human characters.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It was the humans. My take on Transformers was always skewed. The Movie was my jump on point. Which had two humans and at the time, I thought that is all there was. Then Beast Wars came along and had none. Even better. By the time it finished, I was old enough to see that isn't the standard for the series. Going through the later UT, Animated and Prime series.
Their prominence is a deterrent to me. The titular characters are what I want. Besides other alien races, I don't want anything else. Always loved robots and sci-fi since I was very young.
Partly the reason the over the years, I have tried to go back and watch the pre-Movie seasons of Sunbow and just can't do it.
Sabrblade wrote:Cyberverse proved that a Transformers show can be set on Earth in the present day without any human characters.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
william-james88 wrote:It's not human vs no humans, it's good writing vs bad writing. Rescue Bots, Prime and the BB film had humans and didn't suffer for it. While Prime Wars had no humans and sucked hard.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Ya know, one other thing I forgot about until now that was not delivered but was promised: fan vote characters and their stories.
Impactor v. Mirage, and how Mirage turned Impactor into a bot. "you'll see in the WFC stores!" Yet if anything RATCHET was the one who helped Impactor see the error of his ways, Mirage only had some supplementary commentary and thoughts, he wasn't the direct contributor.
Same with Runamuck, he was supposed to stow away on the Ark right? That would have had Megatron find out they were still alive and gone after them without the need of the Mercenaries and Deeseeus, and could have presented them as an outside threat. But the "fan vote character" didn't even appear.
Both feel like promises unfulfilled and add to my disappointment
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Ya know, one other thing I forgot about until now that was not delivered but was promised: fan vote characters and their stories.
Impactor v. Mirage, and how Mirage turned Impactor into a bot. "you'll see in the WFC stores!" Yet if anything RATCHET was the one who helped Impactor see the error of his ways, Mirage only had some supplementary commentary and thoughts, he wasn't the direct contributor.
Same with Runamuck, he was supposed to stow away on the Ark right? That would have had Megatron find out they were still alive and gone after them without the need of the Mercenaries and Deeseeus, and could have presented them as an outside threat. But the "fan vote character" didn't even appear.
Both feel like promises unfulfilled and add to my disappointment
It's the dub voices. Armada had some of the worst casting choices of any English dub anime I've ever seen, and I've seen all of these same actors in other shows where they give good performances. So it is baffling to see the choices made for the Armada dub's English voice cast.o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:It's not human vs no humans, it's good writing vs bad writing. Rescue Bots, Prime and the BB film had humans and didn't suffer for it. While Prime Wars had no humans and sucked hard.
I'm not a big fan of humans myself, but this above statement is true. I didn't mind the humans in Prime, but in Armada especially they are one of the biggest detractors for me. People say Kicker in Energon is the worst. Somehow I can tolerate him. Billy & Fred are unlike any other humans in the history of TF media as while I am normally a very calm person, I wish them a painful death that never happened.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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