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News Credits: 2 · by **Stockade** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:12 pm

Hell Yeah! 100 times better than Hasblo's version! im getting this one and many others.

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:10 pm

Takara version is not that much better. For 3 times the price you get a painted grill, tail lights, autobot sign, rims and back window. I am not sure the white is any different because the one in the picture has yellowed a little. My Jazz is much whiter than that. Hasbro wins this one here in the U.S.A.

News Credits: 2 · by **sabrigami** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:27 pm

Now that Jazz is smoking! the color apps are way better than the harbro ones. Too bad they cost so much, that and I already have a Hasbro one on the way

This looks great though. Now that I've seen the recent pics of this guy and Tak. Drift too, I never really noticed how off white our versions are. kinda weird.

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:37 pm

craggy wrote:United version definitely looks better, but not for the price.

My thought EXACTLY.

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:48 pm

sabrigami wrote:Now that Jazz is smoking! the color apps are way better than the harbro ones. Too bad they cost so much, that and I already have a Hasbro one on the way This looks great though. Now that I've seen the recent pics of this guy and Tak. Drift too, I never really noticed how off white our versions are. kinda weird.

Ours are not that off white. The Hasbro Jazz in the pic and Drift in the other thread have yellowed. MY Drift and Jazz are just as white as the new Takara ones in the pic.

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:01 pm

Takara version does look better, but I can add all those paint apps and the faction symbol myself and not have to spend x3 the price of the RtS version I already have.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:11 pm

El Duque wrote:Takara version does look better, but I can add all those paint apps and the faction symbol myself and not have to spend x3 the price of the RtS version I already have.

exactly! or wait for the Reprolabels kit, which might also have the Martini logos.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:39 am

LOST Cybertronian wrote:
sabrigami wrote:Now that Jazz is smoking! the color apps are way better than the harbro ones. Too bad they cost so much, that and I already have a Hasbro one on the way This looks great though. Now that I've seen the recent pics of this guy and Tak. Drift too, I never really noticed how off white our versions are. kinda weird.

Ours are not that off white. The Hasbro Jazz in the pic and Drift in the other thread have yellowed. MY Drift and Jazz are just as white as the new Takara ones in the pic.

Nonsense

by **Rated X** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:41 am

The white is nicer but the other paint apps look like stuff Reprolabels will take care of in a few months.

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:29 am

Looks great, he's one of the new molds I'm really excited for. There's a bunch of em this time around. This one tops most to me though.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:09 am

Domestic price United: $30
Domestic price RtS: $10

Take your pick.

News Credits: 1 · by **Optimus1138** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:28 am

United looks much better, but still not nearly enough to justify the higher price. Although the United version has the taillights and rear window painted, is a better white, and has partially chromed silver instead of grey for the feet and torso area, there is still one thing that should be different: The stripes. Both versions have the simple blue stripes with a red stripe down the center, which is inaccurate to actual Martini Racing cars and therefore to the original Jazz toy. Hopefully Reprolabels will make better stripes, as well as stickers for the taillights, rear windows, and some sponsors.

News Credits: 1 · by **Solrac333** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:18 am

Glad I held out on the Hasbro version. Will get THIS!

News Credits: 2 · by **Stockade** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:19 am

Takara is just like KFC they know how to do Transformers right!

News Credits: 2 · by **Stockade** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:28 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Domestic price United: $30
Domestic price RtS: $10

Take your pick.

I wouldnt be using the domestic RTS price $10 as an average, cause im sure after the christmas mayhem the price can and will go up and depending on location and dept stores? Like for example the Kohls dept stores Transformers on average are about $14.00, unless you go to walmart or Target then prices will be about $12 to $13 but again depends where you live and what your tax rate is and besides, if you really want a Takara im sure theres other small vendors out there thats not raping the collectors like BBTS and TFsource is, all you have to do is research and google is your best friend. Trust me, i found some vendors that treats me really good and because i buy from them and not the big guys.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:03 pm

Stockade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Domestic price United: $30
Domestic price RtS: $10

Take your pick.

I wouldnt be using the domestic RTS price $10 as an average, cause im sure after the christmas mayhem the price can and will go up and depending on location and dept stores? Like for example the Kohls dept stores Transformers on average are about $14.00, unless you go to walmart or Target then prices will be about $12 to $13 but again depends where you live and what your tax rate is and besides, if you really want a Takara im sure theres other small vendors out there thats not raping the collectors like BBTS and TFsource is, all you have to do is research and google is your best friend. Trust me, i found some vendors that treats me really good and because i buy from them and not the big guys.

My point was that you can either go the cheap, more available way with less detailing, or the slightly more detailed, "perfect" way and pay through the nose with a good chance of missing out. To me the extra detail isn't worth the extra $20 or more.

by **Praxus Prime** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:38 pm

This reminds me of those Clorox "which sock is whiter" commercials. My answer? The one on the left is definitely better!
By the way, would anyone else like to see a Ricochet re-color along with Nightstick?

by **Optimum Supreme** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:48 pm

Looks a little better, but not enough that I'll lose any sleep over it.

by **Rodimus the Prime** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:05 pm

The Takara version looks awesome. Pure awesome! I'm definitely going to buy one!

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:40 pm

US$ 10 domestic + US$ 10 to 15 reprolabels upgrade = US$ 25.00 (?) so factor in United and you get...?

News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:47 pm

The white doesn't look bad on the RTS version until you compare it side by side with the United version. The painted rims look excellent though.

by **Rodimus the Prime** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:11 am

I still can't get over the difference! The completely white plastic makes all the other colours 'pop' nicely, and the autobot symbol on the chest/ hood really gives it a sense of completion. I love that Takara painted the midsection in metallic silver as well. Very nice homage to the original Jazz! This figure is easily going to be the gem of my Classics collection!

News Credits: 2 · by **munkimus prime** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:57 am

Praxus Prime wrote:This reminds me of those Clorox "which sock is whiter" commercials. My answer? The one on the left is definitely better!
By the way, would anyone else like to see a Ricochet re-color along with Nightstick?

A Ricochet repaint would be awesome.

Wait a tick, why is he called Autobot Jazz here, surely he should be called Meister. Name doesn't really matter though since he's Jazz to me anyway.

This is a massive improvement over the RTS Jazz and I may pick it up unless Reprolabels release something. Well atleast the white is nicer on this one

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:07 am

munkimus prime wrote:Wait a tick, why is he called Autobot Jazz here, surely he should be called Meister. Name doesn't really matter though since he's Jazz to me anyway.

TakaraTomy has shied away from the Japanese names ever since the Movie and Animated lines. So no more Convoys.