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I think a lot of credit needs to go to whomever took the pics.

My guess is these are very nice pictures of mediocre bots.

By placing the bots at an angle, they look a lot slimmer than they would on a shelf.

rpetras wrote:I think a lot of credit needs to go to whomever took the pics.

My guess is these are very nice pictures of mediocre bots.

By placing the bots at an angle, they look a lot slimmer than they would on a shelf.

MySpace pictures! Glad we agree.

I WANT CLIFFJUMPER!!! He looks friggin awesome!

CJ is an amazing colour! Not sure if I'll get these though. Need more info on articulation first. Maybe I'll just stick with Prime and Megatron.

What's going on?
They look better now.

I still don't want them though.
If I get any Alternity figure, it'll be Megatron.
Sadly, it's both sold out and expensive, right?

CJ looks better than BB but i think he still needs his Bazooka that would be sweet to see on an alternity

Even though it has a Cliffjumper head, the red one is called "Bumble - Pearl Red".

It'll be up to the fiction to decide whether or not he is Cliffjumper, or if he's another Auto-Avatar for Bumblebee.

Jacob P. Galvatron wrote:What's going on?
They look better now.

I still don't want them though.
If I get any Alternity figure, it'll be Megatron.
Sadly, it's both sold out and expensive, right?

Expensive, yes...sold out, no.
toyarena.com
robotkingdom.com
yahobby.com
eBay.com

I see one on ebay right now for less than I paid shipped. Comes out to $54.49...

http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-ALTERN ... 286.c0.m14

Sabrblade wrote:Even though it has a Cliffjumper head, the red one is called "Bumble - Pearl Red".

It'll be up to the fiction to decide whether or not he is Cliffjumper, or if he's another Auto-Avatar for Bumblebee.

>PFFFT< Honk that noise! Once it's yours, it's whoever you want it to be! A Red Bumblebee with a Cliffjumper head is Cliffjumper!

I just had to explain to my nephew last time we played together at his house, "it's up to you how you play with your toys." We were playing with his um... I have no idea what they were but his guy could fly and when I made the guy I had fly he had a mild freak out because he only flis in a upgraded form or some such nonsense. I had to try to explain that it could do whatever I darn well felt like and once he got it through his head that imagination doesn't have a cartoon and isn't sold in a store, all his rules went out the window. We went from "you can't fly!" to "mine's a Jedi now!"

Fun! You can still have it!

Sabrblade wrote:Even though it has a Cliffjumper head, the red one is called "Bumble - Pearl Red".

It'll be up to the fiction to decide whether or not he is Cliffjumper, or if he's another Auto-Avatar for Bumblebee.

Unless there's a mistake with the naming of the two figures, I can't see why Cliffjumper would be an auto-avatar for Bumblebee unless the fiction changes things around and states that BB/Bumble and CJ/Cliff are versions of the same character, which would be odd.

Optimus Prime was reformated into an auto-avatar as the result of joining his fellow alternate Primes/Convoys in the Convoy Corps of the Alternity. Megatron made his auto-avatars after merging with Hytherion and becoming an Alternity so his auto-avatars are, like the Convoy Corps, various iterations of "Megatron", the "Megatron Aggregate" according to the included fiction.

Maybe BB and CJ are part of a sort of "Minibot Corps".

Convotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Even though it has a Cliffjumper head, the red one is called "Bumble - Pearl Red".

It'll be up to the fiction to decide whether or not he is Cliffjumper, or if he's another Auto-Avatar for Bumblebee.

Unless there's a mistake with the naming of the two figures, I can't see why Cliffjumper would be an auto-avatar for Bumblebee unless the fiction changes things around and states that BB/Bumble and CJ/Cliff are versions of the same character, which would be odd.

Optimus Prime was reformated into an auto-avatar as the result of joining his fellow alternate Primes/Convoys in the Convoy Corps of the Alternity. Megatron made his auto-avatars after merging with Hytherion and becoming an Alternity so his auto-avatars are, like the Convoy Corps, various iterations of "Megatron", the "Megatron Aggregate" according to the included fiction.

Maybe BB and CJ are part of a sort of "Minibot Corps".

Since you've read the fiction, you may be aware that the black Convoy may be a separate character altogether: U-Nemesis Prime (the mammoth), restored. But officially, he's still called Convoy. The same can be applied to the red Bumblebee: officially "Bumble", but "Cliff" in fiction.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Since you've read the fiction, you may be aware that the black Convoy may be a separate character altogether: U-Nemesis Prime (the mammoth), restored. But officially, he's still called Convoy. The same can be applied to the red Bumblebee: officially "Bumble", but "Cliff" in fiction.

My understanding is that the Super Black Alternity Convoy is a reformed Nemesis Prime(the "dark clone" of OP/Herald of Unicron/redeco of Big Convoy) from the future. I can understand why he could be in the Convoy Corps because he is a clone of an alternate OP, thus being an alternate version of OP/Convoy in a way.

The thing about BB and CJ is that they're not supposed to be related in any way aside from being from the Autobots/Cybertrons(unless I'm mistaken about that, I'm not too familiar with the Japanese Transformers fiction). So I can understand grouping them together in a division like a Minibots Corps due to being minibots but not a "Bumblebee Corps" or "Cliffjumper Corps" since they're not iterations of each other as far as I understand.

For anyone familiar with the fiction, I'd like to ask what you think Alternity Bumble/Bumblebee will have for whacked out tech specifications. For those unfamiliar with the fiction, check these far out specs:

Alternity Convoy:

Ten-Dimensional Processor Block [head]: The brain-part that controls multi-dimensional thinking and consciousness.

Timaeus Powertrack Generator [chest]: Generates the racetrack for the super-dimensional-locomotion Timaeus Drive.

Universal Emulation Engine [waist]: Universal mechanism that replicates all mechanical devices.

Phasic Isolation Shield Emitter [knee]: Shield emitter that erases one’s presence and offers total protection.

Timestorm Detector Array [door-wing]: Able to remotely detect the generation of changes in time-space and immediately calculate their coordinates.

Alternium Hyper-Frame [clavicle]: Higher-dimensional-material receiver that physically links the Auto-Avatar and the true Alternity.

Anti-Hytherion Spacetime-Piercing Tachyon Blasters [forearm]: Super-long-range armaments that can strike targets existing in the past, the future, or in other dimensions.

Planet Force Storage Reactors [lower leg]: Where the vibrational energy of the planets is gathered as backup energy storage.

Alternity megatron:

Higher Dimension Sensory Array [head]: A type of sensor that boosts perceptual strength in higher dimensions.

Negavation Cloak Emitter [shoulder]: A stealth feature that disrupts detection of alternities.

Alternium Hyper-Frame [clavicle]: Physically links the Auto-avatar and Alternity frame. A terminal for higher-dimensional matter.

Timaeus Powertrack Generator [chest]: Generates a run loop for the "Timaeus Drive" super-temporal driver.

Inertia Manipulation Device [waist]: A control device which can alter the momentum of enemy physical attacks or the user's body.

Gravital Blades [forearm]: Swords that slash apart space and slice up the flow of time. They can be used to open up a dimensional hole and create a beam attack that bathes the target in the exotic particles that flow out.

Tesseractal Swords: A sword made from the fang of the Hytherion, a super-dimensional creature. It can slash even faraway enemies, ignoring intervening spacial distance.

Holo-Kinetic Arm Projector [lower leg]: Generates an invisible force field arm that can support devices' installation, removal and self-repair.

Universal Emulation Engine? Tesseractal Swords? Anti-Hytherion Spacetime-Piercing Tachyon Blasters? Isn't that crazy? In a good "over the top super space anime mecha technology" way, of course. If Bumblebee gets some super hyper time/space/reality upgrades, he could become the MGS4 Raiden of Transformers with respect to suddenly perceived bad@$$ery.

Convotron wrote:Universal Emulation Engine? Tesseractal Swords? Anti-Hytherion Spacetime-Piercing Tachyon Blasters? Isn't that crazy? In a good "over the top super space anime mecha technology" way, of course. If Bumblebee gets some super hyper time/space/reality upgrades, he could become the MGS4 Raiden of Transformers with respect to suddenly perceived bad@$$ery.

Buncha jibberish is what it is! Anime gobbledeegook! Bah! I'll have none of it!

Wow, you brought out my inner crazy prospector and I didn't even know I had one! Bumblebee already had his badassery upgrade in the 07 movie. Before that he was just the little brother to the bigger bots and Cliffjumper was (and still is) a well armed Scrappy Doo.

Seriously, I'm getting them to go with the MP/Alternator lines and, heh, I collect Bumblebees. Bee still doesn't had a dedicated shelf display but Alternity (and bigger shelves) will change that!

zodconvoy wrote:Buncha jibberish is what it is! Anime gobbledeegook! Bah! I'll have none of it!

Wow, you brought out my inner crazy prospector and I didn't even know I had one! Bumblebee already had his badassery upgrade in the 07 movie. Before that he was just the little brother to the bigger bots and Cliffjumper was (and still is) a well armed Scrappy Doo.

Seriously, I'm getting them to go with the MP/Alternator lines and, heh, I collect Bumblebees. Bee still doesn't had a dedicated shelf display but Alternity (and bigger shelves) will change that!

Hehe, fear the crazy prospector within!

Movie BB is definitely a step up, especially with his work near the end of RotF. I was hoping for a movie CJ to be introduced. Imagine the weapons he'd bring to a fight with Bay in charge!

After looking at these further, I agree with CP-these "glamour shots" of the two still can't hide that they're wearing diapers and their feet suck. As much as I like CJ's head mold, the cons of this mold far out weigh the pros. Oh well.

Whaddaya know? A shinier paintjob, different camera angle, and ol' B looks so much better, and slimmer too. I guess what works for women also applies to Autobots.

Unfortunately, he still sports that "naked-guy-holding-a-barrel" look.

Both B and Cliffjumper look nice, but it still doesn't justify the $50 price point. I'd grab 'em if they were voyager-class figs in a Henkei toyline or something.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Convotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Even though it has a Cliffjumper head, the red one is called "Bumble - Pearl Red".

It'll be up to the fiction to decide whether or not he is Cliffjumper, or if he's another Auto-Avatar for Bumblebee.

Unless there's a mistake with the naming of the two figures, I can't see why Cliffjumper would be an auto-avatar for Bumblebee unless the fiction changes things around and states that BB/Bumble and CJ/Cliff are versions of the same character, which would be odd.

Optimus Prime was reformated into an auto-avatar as the result of joining his fellow alternate Primes/Convoys in the Convoy Corps of the Alternity. Megatron made his auto-avatars after merging with Hytherion and becoming an Alternity so his auto-avatars are, like the Convoy Corps, various iterations of "Megatron", the "Megatron Aggregate" according to the included fiction.

Maybe BB and CJ are part of a sort of "Minibot Corps".

Since you've read the fiction, you may be aware that the black Convoy may be a separate character altogether: U-Nemesis Prime (the mammoth), restored. But officially, he's still called Convoy. The same can be applied to the red Bumblebee: officially "Bumble", but "Cliff" in fiction.

Yes, I am well aware of that. Which is why I am eagerly awaiting the fiction to tell us whether Bumble - Pearl Red is Cliffjumper (like how Convoy - Super Black is Nemesis Prime) or Bumblebee with his pal's head and colors.

It probably won't happen but regardless of the fiction behind Alternity Bumblebee, I hope the red/Cliffjumper head sculpt version gets a modular bazooka instead of twin pistols.

Kibble wrote:

Jacob P. Galvatron wrote:What's going on?
They look better now.

I still don't want them though.
If I get any Alternity figure, it'll be Megatron.
Sadly, it's both sold out and expensive, right?

Expensive, yes...sold out, no.
toyarena.com
robotkingdom.com
yahobby.com
eBay.com

I see one on ebay right now for less than I paid shipped. Comes out to $54.49...

http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-ALTERN ... 286.c0.m14

Hmmm.
Maybe it's not really super expensive.
I don't have any money now, so it honestly doesn't matter.

I dunno. Maybe I can try to get one for Christmas.

Even though these have been taken in a Glamor Shots photo booth, they still look pretty good.

What I really can't wait for is the Perfect Black Cliffjumper and Pearl White Bumblebee. Runamuck and Runabout for sho'

Down_Shift wrote:What I really can't wait for is the Perfect Black Cliffjumper and Pearl White Bumblebee. Runamuck and Runabout for sho'

More like Bug Bite.

Sabrblade wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:What I really can't wait for is the Perfect Black Cliffjumper and Pearl White Bumblebee. Runamuck and Runabout for sho'

More like Bug Bite.

I was thinkin' bug bite, but a lot of members won't know who that is.

Down_Shift wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:What I really can't wait for is the Perfect Black Cliffjumper and Pearl White Bumblebee. Runamuck and Runabout for sho'

More like Bug Bite.

I was thinkin' bug bite, but a lot of members won't know who that is.

I know who Bug Bite is. He's a white Gobot clone of Bumblebee. When the Gobot dimension was destroyed, Bug Bite was among the few that survived. He was available at BotCon 2007.
Seriously, though, anyone who went to BotCon '07 should know. (I didn't go, but I read up on TFWiki.net. That website knows everything about everything.)

Bleh. I'll take the Classics mold over this. Alternity just doesn't appeal to me and I can't stand how the paint looks on these figures.

Blurrz wrote:Bleh. I'll take the Classics mold over this. Alternity just doesn't appeal to me and I can't stand how the paint looks on these figures.

What's wrong with the paint?