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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:02 pm

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OptimusN1701 wrote:Like I said, 2000 was the high point, Legacy seemed like it would recapture that greatness....But I guess those glory days are over


It all Enterprise's fault :sad:
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:41 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Like I said, 2000 was the high point, Legacy seemed like it would recapture that greatness....But I guess those glory days are over


It all Enterprise's fault :sad:


OMG,I never associated that with the downturn before. You might be right :-?

Damn You Scott Bakula!!!!
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:00 pm

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Like I said, 2000 was the high point, Legacy seemed like it would recapture that greatness....But I guess those glory days are over


It all Enterprise's fault :sad:


OMG,I never associated that with the downturn before. You might be right :-?

Damn You Scott Bakula!!!!


He should be shot on site.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:15 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Like I said, 2000 was the high point, Legacy seemed like it would recapture that greatness....But I guess those glory days are over


It all Enterprise's fault :sad:


OMG,I never associated that with the downturn before. You might be right :-?

Damn You Scott Bakula!!!!


He should be shot on site.


Maybe if we spare his life he will Leap into Rick Berman's body before Enterprise was greenlighted and stop it from being made :lol:
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:23 pm

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Like I said, 2000 was the high point, Legacy seemed like it would recapture that greatness....But I guess those glory days are over


It all Enterprise's fault :sad:


OMG,I never associated that with the downturn before. You might be right :-?

Damn You Scott Bakula!!!!


He should be shot on site.


Maybe if we spare his life he will Leap into Rick Berman's body before Enterprise was greenlighted and stop it from being made :lol:


You know ,I've never seen a single episode of that show of his????
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:47 pm

Quantum Leap had its good points
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:29 am

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OptimusN1701 wrote:Quantum Leap had its good points


Never saw it.I havent seen a CBS show since the 80's.I've boycoted that network ever since they made an intire season of Dallas a dream.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:42 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Quantum Leap had its good points


Never saw it.I havent seen a CBS show since the 80's.I've boycoted that network ever since they made an intire season of Dallas a dream.


Thats a hell of a long time man
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:43 am

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Quantum Leap had its good points


Never saw it.I havent seen a CBS show since the 80's.I've boycoted that network ever since they made an intire season of Dallas a dream.


Thats a hell of a long time man


I know ....but hey,I am A Klingon!
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:39 am

You know what I've always wondered: In ST VI Spock says that Qo'nos's atmosphere will be depleted in 50 years because of Praxis's destruction. So why is it still inhabited in TNG? was the ecological damage repaired? Are there atmospheric generators all over the planet?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:59 am

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OptimusN1701 wrote:You know what I've always wondered: In ST VI Spock says that Qo'nos's atmosphere will be depleted in 50 years because of Praxis's destruction. So why is it still inhabited in TNG? was the ecological damage repaired? Are there atmospheric generators all over the planet?

It want ineveitable that they only had 50 years left.The idea was that ecological damage caused by Praxis's explosion would have depleted Qo'nos's atmospher in 50 years or so if something could not be done to slow it down and repair the damage.Thats why the Klingons were considering peace in the first place.They could not afford to continue funding resources to the milatary to maintain all the outposts along the Netrul Zone or to maintain any war ships for continued hostilatys.With the khitomer accords in place they were able divert and concentrate their resorces twards the repair of Qo'nos's atmospher.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:11 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:You know what I've always wondered: In ST VI Spock says that Qo'nos's atmosphere will be depleted in 50 years because of Praxis's destruction. So why is it still inhabited in TNG? was the ecological damage repaired? Are there atmospheric generators all over the planet?

It want ineveitable that they only had 50 years left.The idea was that ecological damage caused by Praxis's explosion would have depleted Qo'nos's atmospher in 50 years or so if something could not be done to slow it down and repair the damage.Thats why the Klingons were considering peace in the first place.They could not afford to continue funding resources to the milatary to maintain all the outposts along the Netrul Zone or to maintain any war ships for continued hostilatys.With the khitomer accords in place they were able divert and concentrate their resorces twards the repair of Qo'nos's atmospher.


Weren't they planning a planet-wide evacuation at/around the time of the Kithomer conference?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:19 am

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:You know what I've always wondered: In ST VI Spock says that Qo'nos's atmosphere will be depleted in 50 years because of Praxis's destruction. So why is it still inhabited in TNG? was the ecological damage repaired? Are there atmospheric generators all over the planet?

It want ineveitable that they only had 50 years left.The idea was that ecological damage caused by Praxis's explosion would have depleted Qo'nos's atmospher in 50 years or so if something could not be done to slow it down and repair the damage.Thats why the Klingons were considering peace in the first place.They could not afford to continue funding resources to the milatary to maintain all the outposts along the Netrul Zone or to maintain any war ships for continued hostilatys.With the khitomer accords in place they were able divert and concentrate their resorces twards the repair of Qo'nos's atmospher.


Weren't they planning a planet-wide evacuation at/around the time of the Kithomer conference?


They were...but I would say that it was a last resort plan.I dont remember the exsact quote but Spock said that it was imperetive that they make peace with the Klingons while they were making the offer or Gorkon be swaid by more kligon conservitive ideas and die fighiting.
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Postby Insurgent » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:21 pm

Invasion was a good game. Still play that. Shattered Universe was a good game, but only if your a big fan of TOS. Gameplay was a bit pants, but for all the TOS characters brought back in it, I would knock it up a notch for that alone. Anyone played Encounters? I found that to be really enjoyable, if somewhat lacking in certain areas.


Speaking of ST6, does anyone remember seeing a shadow behind Kirk when he is talking to Spock after the initial meeting, when he says "Let them die". I remember seeing a shadow over his right (our left) shoulder in the background, who obviously turned out to be Valaries. Unfortunatly, this was many years ago and any time I watch it now, that shadow is missing. Am I just seeing things, or has anyone else seen this elusive spectre?
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:05 pm

Insurgent wrote:Speaking of ST6, does anyone remember seeing a shadow behind Kirk when he is talking to Spock after the initial meeting, when he says "Let them die". I remember seeing a shadow over his right (our left) shoulder in the background, who obviously turned out to be Valaries. Unfortunatly, this was many years ago and any time I watch it now, that shadow is missing. Am I just seeing things, or has anyone else seen this elusive spectre?


This is the first i'm hearing about this :shock:
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:51 pm

Insurgent wrote:Invasion was a good game. Still play that. Shattered Universe was a good game, but only if your a big fan of TOS. Gameplay was a bit pants, but for all the TOS characters brought back in it, I would knock it up a notch for that alone. Anyone played Encounters? I found that to be really enjoyable, if somewhat lacking in certain areas.


Speaking of ST6, does anyone remember seeing a shadow behind Kirk when he is talking to Spock after the initial meeting, when he says "Let them die". I remember seeing a shadow over his right (our left) shoulder in the background, who obviously turned out to be Valaries. Unfortunatly, this was many years ago and any time I watch it now, that shadow is missing. Am I just seeing things, or has anyone else seen this elusive spectre?



I've never seen that either, but I havent seen ST6 in years

I almost picked up Encounters but decided against it
Have you played the Armada series?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:59 pm

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Never seen it myself but the next time I see it I'll check it out.By the way guys hit this link for some news on Trek.
http://newsletter.startrek.com/cgi-bin4 ... 260FYlq0Gj
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:10 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Never seen it myself but the next time I see it I'll check it out.By the way guys hit this link for some news on Trek.
http://newsletter.startrek.com/cgi-bin4 ... 260FYlq0Gj


Thats pretty damn cool
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:25 pm

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http://newsletter.startrek.com/cgi-bin4 ... 260FYlq0Gj


Thats pretty damn cool


I just hope its showing around me. :PRAY:
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:00 am

It won't be in widescreen is was filmed for TV
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Postby Insurgent » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:53 am

OptimusN1701 wrote:
Insurgent wrote:Invasion was a good game. Still play that. Shattered Universe was a good game, but only if your a big fan of TOS. Gameplay was a bit pants, but for all the TOS characters brought back in it, I would knock it up a notch for that alone. Anyone played Encounters? I found that to be really enjoyable, if somewhat lacking in certain areas.


Speaking of ST6, does anyone remember seeing a shadow behind Kirk when he is talking to Spock after the initial meeting, when he says "Let them die". I remember seeing a shadow over his right (our left) shoulder in the background, who obviously turned out to be Valaries. Unfortunatly, this was many years ago and any time I watch it now, that shadow is missing. Am I just seeing things, or has anyone else seen this elusive spectre?



I've never seen that either, but I havent seen ST6 in years

I almost picked up Encounters but decided against it
Have you played the Armada series?


I have heard someone else mention it on another site a while back, but no one else could remember about the shadow either. And whenever it's on TV and the version I have, there's no silhouette. But I swear I have seen one there at least twice. That's how she knows Kirk said 'Let them die', for without that silouhette (it was technically a silouhette, not a shadow) we have an error since that line is said in the trial and Kirk and Spock are the only one's there otherwise. Unless she was listening in through a recording.

I haven't played Armada. My PC doesn't have the specs to run newer games, and I prefer consoles. I have played Elite Force for the PS2 and A Final Unity and Generations for the PC. Those were some quality Trek games. A Final Unity I only completed by a complete random fluke of nature.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:34 pm

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Insurgent wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
Insurgent wrote:Invasion was a good game. Still play that. Shattered Universe was a good game, but only if your a big fan of TOS. Gameplay was a bit pants, but for all the TOS characters brought back in it, I would knock it up a notch for that alone. Anyone played Encounters? I found that to be really enjoyable, if somewhat lacking in certain areas.


Speaking of ST6, does anyone remember seeing a shadow behind Kirk when he is talking to Spock after the initial meeting, when he says "Let them die". I remember seeing a shadow over his right (our left) shoulder in the background, who obviously turned out to be Valaries. Unfortunatly, this was many years ago and any time I watch it now, that shadow is missing. Am I just seeing things, or has anyone else seen this elusive spectre?



I've never seen that either, but I havent seen ST6 in years

I almost picked up Encounters but decided against it
Have you played the Armada series?


I have heard someone else mention it on another site a while back, but no one else could remember about the shadow either. And whenever it's on TV and the version I have, there's no silhouette. But I swear I have seen one there at least twice. That's how she knows Kirk said 'Let them die', for without that silouhette (it was technically a silouhette, not a shadow) we have an error since that line is said in the trial and Kirk and Spock are the only one's there otherwise. Unless she was listening in through a recording.


I'm gona dig out me vcr and my tape of ST 6 just to look for it........I'll give you an up date tomorrow.
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:58 am

I just got finishing watching Star Trek 5 and had an epiphany 18 years after its release

The entity that was imprisoned in the Great Barrier must of been imprisoned there by the Q

I know to some of you I me late on this but I just wanted to give my 2 cents
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:30 am

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Wheeljack35 wrote:I just got finishing watching Star Trek 5 and had an epiphany 18 years after its release

The entity that was imprisoned in the Great Barrier must of been imprisoned there by the Q

I know to some of you I me late on this but I just wanted to give my 2 cents


Could be.......but why do you think so???????The Q werent the only rase that we saw on ST that had the kind of powers needed to do what was done to that entity.I could name at least 3 other rases that were named that could have done it and 1 other that never got named.......althou in that case there is much fan speculation that the un-named ones could have been the Q.
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:53 am

I only know of the Q

Wasn't Trelane a Q?
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