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Optimus Prime's son?

Postby MommaWolf » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:00 pm

I can't remember much about the cartoon or cartoon movie. Did Optimus Prime have a son and if so what was his name? :D
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Postby Ramrider » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:12 pm

This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).
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Postby Barricade » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:16 pm

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i think junior lio was lio convoy's little brother...... but dont quote me on that....
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Postby i_amtrunks » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:43 pm

Barricade wrote:~~~WARNING:SEIBERTON CONTAINS NUTS!!!~~~


Close Barricade. Next time, try it in red!

Also, Prime was Barren. :P
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Postby Barricade » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:04 pm

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i_amtrunks wrote:
Barricade wrote:~~~WARNING:SEIBERTON CONTAINS NUTS!!!~~~


Close Barricade. Next time, try it in red!

Also, Prime was Barren. :P
i knew i forgot something when making the warning......
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Postby Zombie Starscream » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:16 pm

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Ramrider wrote:This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).
And there was a few debates on that which would go on for twenty odd pages..

Can Tfs Have Babies?
Where do the Babies Grow Inside Them?
Do Tfs have Genders?
How do Tfs Reproduce?

Not the titles exactly, but you get the idea. Basically, the threads are interesting, but after a while they have a tendancy to get heated and some members getting temp banned.
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Postby Deadpool. » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:59 pm

Zombie Starscream wrote:
Ramrider wrote:This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).
And there was a few debates on that which would go on for twenty odd pages..

Can Tfs Have Babies?
Where do the Babies Grow Inside Them?
Do Tfs have Genders?
How do Tfs Reproduce?

Not the titles exactly, but you get the idea. Basically, the threads are interesting, but after a while they have a tendancy to get heated and some members getting temp banned.
Well, ALL of them were started by Tramp.
Who was banned.
For good.
Permanently.
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Postby Venomous Prime » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:05 pm

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Barricade wrote:i think junior lio was lio convoy's little brother...... but dont quote me on that....


Well, I'm quoting you on it...

but your wrong sadly. :P

Lio Junior was Lio Convoy's "son"

The amolgis(spelling is wrong I know) had an affect on Lio Convoy and the Matrix producing Lio Junior.

Watch Beast Wars II the Movie, its a goodie

:grin: :grin:

You don't even have to know the back story to enjoy it
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:42 pm

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Ramrider wrote:This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).


That is the case in the U.S. toons but in the Japanese shows there are a few characters with sons....how they had those sons is beyond me.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:43 pm

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Barricade wrote:i think junior lio was lio convoy's little brother...... but dont quote me on that....
welcome and
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No he was Lio Convoys son but by what meens I dont know.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:44 pm

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i_amtrunks wrote:
Barricade wrote:~~~WARNING:SEIBERTON CONTAINS NUTS!!!~~~


Close Barricade. Next time, try it in red!

Also, Prime was Barren. :P


Thats cause he got prostate cancer :P
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Postby Venomous Prime » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:22 pm

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sheesh, triple posting?

thats a big no no! :P
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:11 pm

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Original Sin wrote:sheesh, triple posting?

thats a big no no! :P


Its a bad habit I'm trying to break.
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Postby AxiomScion » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:26 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Original Sin wrote:sheesh, triple posting?

thats a big no no! :P


Its a bad habit I'm trying to break.
much like the second gallon of blood wine, Kalis? :P

Barricade should have wrote:~~~WARNING:SEIBERTON CONTAINS NUTS!!!~~~
:grin: all better. Now it's official!
<hr>

G1 Prime had prostate cancer...

but

Lio Convoy had Viatrix
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Postby Omega Charge » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:23 am

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Barricade should have wrote:~~~WARNING:SEIBERTON CONTAINS NUTS!!!~~~
:grin: all better. Now it's official!
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Yeah just make itBIGGER
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Postby God Magnus » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:27 am

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Ramrider wrote:This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).
And there was a few debates on that which would go on for twenty odd pages..

Can Tfs Have Babies?
Where do the Babies Grow Inside Them?
Do Tfs have Genders?
How do Tfs Reproduce?

Not the titles exactly, but you get the idea. Basically, the threads are interesting, but after a while they have a tendancy to get heated and some members getting temp banned.

I don't know if they can or can't have babies. All I know is that Transformer sex would be extremely loud.
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Postby AxiomScion » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:24 am

God Magnus wrote:
Zombie Starscream wrote:
Ramrider wrote:This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).
And there was a few debates on that which would go on for twenty odd pages..

Can Tfs Have Babies?
Where do the Babies Grow Inside Them?
Do Tfs have Genders?
How do Tfs Reproduce?

Not the titles exactly, but you get the idea. Basically, the threads are interesting, but after a while they have a tendancy to get heated and some members getting temp banned.

I don't know if they can or can't have babies. All I know is that Transformer sex would be extremely loud.
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Postby Sloptank » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:25 am

Actual descendants? No, not really. I think that perhaps Cybertronians, upon the creation of a new shell and the addition of a recurrent spark from the Allspark, might take to mentoring a new Transformer. This would account for Kup being like a cranky uncle to Hot Rod, and also for Ironhide being an uncool dweeb around Hot Shot in Energon.

Then again, maturity level depends on the spark itself, as characters like Rumble and the Battlechargers seem to lack any signs of responsibility.

I think that the issue of gender boils down to simple mannerisms and disposition. I like the idea of defined male and female types in Transformers, but frankly it's hard to justify and even harder to fathom the logistics. The only explanation I can come up with revolves around the mysterious creators of the Transformers (assuming it's not actually the Quintessons) infused them with aspects of their own physiology. Personality and disposition aren't exactly part of the equation for building reliable service and military drones.

It's convenient, of course, to have the Cybertronians be able to relate to humans through their emotions and demeanors. People like Bumblebee because he's undeniably likable, after all. Perhaps an older organic race was the basis for the Transformers' development. Observation of organic species with gender, emotion and social tructure became the basis for their own nascent society. Pure speculation, of course.

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Postby Venomous Prime » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:12 pm

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Sloptank wrote:Actual descendants? No, not really. I think that perhaps Cybertronians, upon the creation of a new shell and the addition of a recurrent spark from the Allspark, might take to mentoring a new Transformer. This would account for Kup being like a cranky uncle to Hot Rod, and also for Ironhide being an uncool dweeb around Hot Shot in Energon.

Then again, maturity level depends on the spark itself, as characters like Rumble and the Battlechargers seem to lack any signs of responsibility.

I think that the issue of gender boils down to simple mannerisms and disposition. I like the idea of defined male and female types in Transformers, but frankly it's hard to justify and even harder to fathom the logistics. The only explanation I can come up with revolves around the mysterious creators of the Transformers (assuming it's not actually the Quintessons) infused them with aspects of their own physiology. Personality and disposition aren't exactly part of the equation for building reliable service and military drones.

It's convenient, of course, to have the Cybertronians be able to relate to humans through their emotions and demeanors. People like Bumblebee because he's undeniably likable, after all. Perhaps an older organic race was the basis for the Transformers' development. Observation of organic species with gender, emotion and social tructure became the basis for their own nascent society. Pure speculation, of course.

Man, I gotta stop lettin' Shamble use the keyboard while I'm away gettin' a doughnut.


I think you missed the part where everyone said Lio Junior was Lio Convoy's son :P
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Postby Sloptank » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:21 pm

Original Sin wrote:
Sloptank wrote:Actual descendants? No, not really. I think that perhaps Cybertronians, upon the creation of a new shell and the addition of a recurrent spark from the Allspark, might take to mentoring a new Transformer. This would account for Kup being like a cranky uncle to Hot Rod, and also for Ironhide being an uncool dweeb around Hot Shot in Energon.

Then again, maturity level depends on the spark itself, as characters like Rumble and the Battlechargers seem to lack any signs of responsibility.

I think that the issue of gender boils down to simple mannerisms and disposition. I like the idea of defined male and female types in Transformers, but frankly it's hard to justify and even harder to fathom the logistics. The only explanation I can come up with revolves around the mysterious creators of the Transformers (assuming it's not actually the Quintessons) infused them with aspects of their own physiology. Personality and disposition aren't exactly part of the equation for building reliable service and military drones.

It's convenient, of course, to have the Cybertronians be able to relate to humans through their emotions and demeanors. People like Bumblebee because he's undeniably likable, after all. Perhaps an older organic race was the basis for the Transformers' development. Observation of organic species with gender, emotion and social tructure became the basis for their own nascent society. Pure speculation, of course.

Man, I gotta stop lettin' Shamble use the keyboard while I'm away gettin' a doughnut.


I think you missed the part where everyone said Lio Junior was Lio Convoy's son :P


No, I saw it. It's just that 90% of everything that comes out of Japan and relates to Transformers, plotwise, is some combination of ridiculous, stupid, and perverted.
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Postby Sledge » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:31 pm

I'm not particularly interested in Beast Wars, but wasn't Lio Convoy a seperate character from Optimus Prime?
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Postby AxiomScion » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:59 pm

Sledge wrote:I'm not particularly interested in Beast Wars, but wasn't Lio Convoy a seperate character from Optimus Prime?
in that if they showed G1 Prime in the BW japan show it wouldn't be Lio Convoy? your absolutely right.

He's more likely to be a descendant/ built after/ closer relation to... G1 Prime than Primal was. They did give him a matrix after all. but anyone with a faceplate and OP color deco could apply for one then... Primal was even given one for his BW movie cameo!

:BLACKEYE: yes they're seperate characters :oops:

Convobat may have been Optimus Prime but they decided he made a better Batman :P

:shock: really... don't look him up
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:49 pm

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Sledge wrote:I'm not particularly interested in Beast Wars, but wasn't Lio Convoy a seperate character from Optimus Prime?
in that if they showed G1 Prime in the BW japan show it wouldn't be Lio Convoy? your absolutely right.

He's more likely to be a descendant/ built after/ closer relation to... G1 Prime than Primal was. They did give him a matrix after all. but anyone with a faceplate and OP color deco could apply for one then... Primal was even given one for his BW movie cameo!

:BLACKEYE: yes they're seperate characters :oops:

Convobat may have been Optimus Prime but they decided he made a better Batman :P

:shock: really... don't look him up


In Japan all the Convoys on the consil have a Matrix....even Ultra Magnus in car robots 2000 had a Matrix.They give one to any Cybertron of high rank.
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Postby Sledge » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:18 pm

I remember the days when having THE Matrix made you special. Now any Tom, Dick or Harrybot gets a Matrix.

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Postby Damolisher » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:28 pm

Sloptank wrote:No, I saw it. It's just that 90% of everything that comes out of Japan and relates to Transformers, plotwise, is some combination of ridiculous, stupid, and perverted.


Yes, Sloptank, but it is still canon. Regardless of the number of people who tell me Japan's ideas are not part of our canon, I will continue to repeat myself and speak to more knowledgable members in a arrogant and condecending way!
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