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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:39 pm

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Sloptank wrote:No, I saw it. It's just that 90% of everything that comes out of Japan and relates to Transformers, plotwise, is some combination of ridiculous, stupid, and perverted.


Yes, Sloptank, but it is still canon. Regardless of the number of people who tell me Japan's ideas are not part of our canon, I will continue to repeat myself and speak to more knowledgable members in a arrogant and condecending way!


Hey isint it breaking the ruls to pretent that your some one else on these boards? :-? :grin:
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Postby Damolisher » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:44 pm

Yes, but in that case, I should've already been kicked for pretending to be a sane person :P
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:03 pm

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Damolisher wrote:Yes, but in that case, I should've already been kicked for pretending to be a sane person :P


point taken :grin:
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Postby Venomous Prime » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:00 am

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Sloptank wrote:No, I saw it. It's just that 90% of everything that comes out of Japan and relates to Transformers, plotwise, is some combination of ridiculous, stupid, and perverted.


Yes, Sloptank, but it is still canon. Regardless of the number of people who tell me Japan's ideas are not part of our canon, I will continue to repeat myself and speak to more knowledgable members in a arrogant and condecending way!


Nice Tramp impression :P
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Postby Leonardo » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:05 am

Damolisher wrote:
Sloptank wrote:No, I saw it. It's just that 90% of everything that comes out of Japan and relates to Transformers, plotwise, is some combination of ridiculous, stupid, and perverted.


Yes, Sloptank, but it is still canon. Regardless of the number of people who tell me Japan's ideas are not part of our canon, I will continue to repeat myself and speak to more knowledgable members in a arrogant and condecending way!


Could you be more of a Tramp?

Wait, that was someone else...
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:09 am

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I think Damolisher miss's Tramp :x
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Postby Unicron Singularity » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:51 am

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Ramrider wrote:This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).
And there was a few debates on that which would go on for twenty odd pages..

Can Tfs Have Babies?
Where do the Babies Grow Inside Them?
Do Tfs have Genders?
How do Tfs Reproduce?

Not the titles exactly, but you get the idea. Basically, the threads are interesting, but after a while they have a tendancy to get heated and some members getting temp banned.


the only things TFs have, are hexagonal nuts, to quote Trailbreaker ^^
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Postby ThunderThruster » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:10 pm

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Damolisher wrote:
Sloptank wrote:No, I saw it. It's just that 90% of everything that comes out of Japan and relates to Transformers, plotwise, is some combination of ridiculous, stupid, and perverted.


Yes, Sloptank, but it is still canon. Regardless of the number of people who tell me Japan's ideas are not part of our canon, I will continue to repeat myself and speak to more knowledgable members in a arrogant and condecending way!


Nice Tramp impression :P


it still needs work, the inflections were all wrong!
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Postby Ramrider » Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:56 pm

The Unicron Singularity wrote:the only things TFs have, are hexagonal nuts, to quote Trailbreaker ^^

That sounds like something to see the docbot about... :?
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Postby Damolisher » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:40 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I think Damolisher miss's Tramp :x


Miss him like a hernia. :P

But again, my theory for all this Transformers family BS is simply creation. Similar makes, models, etc, are related, I reckon Sideswipe and Sunstreaker are made by the same creator, and are brothers, Nosecone or Strafe (One of the slagging Technobots.) ask Grimlock in Grimlock's New Brain if he's their father. Grimlock replies with "You could say that." There is no Transformer sex, so it's all based on how they're created.
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Postby MaP_Prime » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:57 pm

Well, from what I can tell there is some sort of "sex" appeal when it comes to female transformers. When I was reading MEgatron Origins #1 towards the end of the issue when the escaped miners were landing in Kaon their is a billboard with a fembot in a semi-provocative pose.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:08 pm

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Damolisher wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I think Damolisher miss's Tramp :x


Miss him like a hernia. :P

But again, my theory for all this Transformers family BS is simply creation. Similar makes, models, etc, are related, I reckon Sideswipe and Sunstreaker are made by the same creator, and are brothers, Nosecone or Strafe (One of the slagging Technobots.) ask Grimlock in Grimlock's New Brain if he's their father. Grimlock replies with "You could say that." There is no Transformer sex, so it's all based on how they're created.


Again I refere you to this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SniqngdvpQE
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Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds

T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

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Postby Toyotus Superion » Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:11 pm

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Zombie Starscream wrote:
Ramrider wrote:This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).
And there was a few debates on that which would go on for twenty odd pages..

Can Tfs Have Babies?
Where do the Babies Grow Inside Them?
Do Tfs have Genders?
How do Tfs Reproduce?

Not the titles exactly, but you get the idea. Basically, the threads are interesting, but after a while they have a tendancy to get heated and some members getting temp banned.
Well, ALL of them were started by Tramp.
Who was banned.
For good.
Permanently.
Gone!


REally!? Thats awesome!!! That guy was an idiot. Always arguing scientific fact and stuff in a freakin cartoon!
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Postby Scaleface » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:34 pm

Was Roller Optimus' son?

On the subject of Optimus Prime having a son, what about all the Transformers he gave life to in the Marvel comics using the Matrix? The Aerialbots, the Protectabots, Jetfire, Omega Supreme. They are all his "children" in the Marvel comic - plus the Decepticons forced him to give life to the Constructicons, Combaticons and Stunticons. Of course maybe Optimus Prime is their mother and Wheeljack is their dad.

In the Marvel comic they also had some nonsense in the G2 comic about Transformers procreating through mitosis, but they stopped doing that years ago because the sparks were being deluted and new Transformers were being born with weak souls or somesuch.

Also, there is that whole mess with Optimus Primal calling Optimus Prime his "ancestor"... Granddad maybe?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:20 pm

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Scaleface wrote:Was Roller Optimus' son?


No......Roller was a part of Prime....like a finger nail.


Scaleface wrote:On the subject of Optimus Prime having a son, what about all the Transformers he gave life to in the Marvel comics using the Matrix? The Aerialbots, the Protectabots, Jetfire, Omega Supreme. They are all his "children" in the Marvel comic - plus the Decepticons forced him to give life to the Constructicons, Combaticons and Stunticons. Of course maybe Optimus Prime is their mother and Wheeljack is their dad.


Technically he brought them to life useing the "Creation Matrix" witch was a fragment of Primus's life force so they would be considered Primus's children.



Scaleface wrote:In the Marvel comic they also had some nonsense in the G2 comic about Transformers procreating through mitosis, but they stopped doing that years ago because the sparks were being deluted and new Transformers were being born with weak souls or somesuch.


Where did you get the part of deluted sparks....the rest is right but the rest of that was never said.


Scaleface wrote:Also, there is that whole mess with Optimus Primal calling Optimus Prime his "ancestor"... Granddad maybe?


Yes but "ancestor" doesnt neccessarily meen family.
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Postby Scaleface » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:14 pm

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Postby Scaleface » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:18 pm

And also here:
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Postby Damolisher » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:34 pm

Toyotus Superion wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
Zombie Starscream wrote:
Ramrider wrote:This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).
And there was a few debates on that which would go on for twenty odd pages..

Can Tfs Have Babies?
Where do the Babies Grow Inside Them?
Do Tfs have Genders?
How do Tfs Reproduce?

Not the titles exactly, but you get the idea. Basically, the threads are interesting, but after a while they have a tendancy to get heated and some members getting temp banned.
Well, ALL of them were started by Tramp.
Who was banned.
For good.
Permanently.
Gone!


REally!? Thats awesome!!! That guy was an idiot. Always arguing scientific fact and stuff in a freakin cartoon!


Yeah, and despite the fact he's been banned from here, and he's been banned from Tfans, he's now on TFArchive trying to argue with everyone there. The retard doesn't know when to shut up and stop arguing, and Scaleface, thank you, at least you can give PROOF to an argument. Tramp didn't. He just gave assumptions and incorrect personal theory.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:56 am

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Scaleface wrote:And also here:


I have these book's but your reading it differently then I do [althou your point of view is interedting] The dialog doesnt directly state that their " sparks were being deluted" and that they "were being born with weak souls".I would take the statements of "watering down the line" and being "soulless" as metaphores pretaining to ether Primes and Meg's point of view or to discribe how evil the G2 bots had become.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:58 am

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
Damolisher wrote:
Toyotus Superion wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
Zombie Starscream wrote:
Ramrider wrote:This is a nice simple one.

No. :grin:

<edit> To expand a bit... Transformers don't have children (or if they do, we've never had any definite evidence of it in the last twenty-odd years).
And there was a few debates on that which would go on for twenty odd pages..

Can Tfs Have Babies?
Where do the Babies Grow Inside Them?
Do Tfs have Genders?
How do Tfs Reproduce?

Not the titles exactly, but you get the idea. Basically, the threads are interesting, but after a while they have a tendancy to get heated and some members getting temp banned.
Well, ALL of them were started by Tramp.
Who was banned.
For good.
Permanently.
Gone!


REally!? Thats awesome!!! That guy was an idiot. Always arguing scientific fact and stuff in a freakin cartoon!


Yeah, and despite the fact he's been banned from here, and he's been banned from Tfans, he's now on TFArchive trying to argue with everyone there. The retard doesn't know when to shut up and stop arguing, and Scaleface, thank you, at least you can give PROOF to an argument. Tramp didn't. He just gave assumptions and incorrect personal theory.


So the war has reached a new battle feild........we should band together and enter the fight over at TFArchive....or at least warn those guys :grin:
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Postby Scaleface » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:52 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Scaleface wrote:And also here:


I have these book's but your reading it differently then I do [althou your point of view is interedting] The dialog doesnt directly state that their " sparks were being deluted" and that they "were being born with weak souls".I would take the statements of "watering down the line" and being "soulless" as metaphores pretaining to ether Primes and Meg's point of view or to discribe how evil the G2 bots had become.


Fair enough, that's how I read it. The G2 comics were fairly hard to follow. I actually gave up and never finished them for years, and only recently went back and read them.
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Postby ThunderThruster » Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:03 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Damolisher wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I think Damolisher miss's Tramp :x


Miss him like a hernia. :P

But again, my theory for all this Transformers family BS is simply creation. Similar makes, models, etc, are related, I reckon Sideswipe and Sunstreaker are made by the same creator, and are brothers, Nosecone or Strafe (One of the slagging Technobots.) ask Grimlock in Grimlock's New Brain if he's their father. Grimlock replies with "You could say that." There is no Transformer sex, so it's all based on how they're created.


Again I refere you to this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SniqngdvpQE


and i'd refer you to this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT6AgtcOaRo
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:15 pm

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Scaleface wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Scaleface wrote:And also here:


I have these book's but your reading it differently then I do [althou your point of view is interedting] The dialog doesnt directly state that their " sparks were being deluted" and that they "were being born with weak souls".I would take the statements of "watering down the line" and being "soulless" as metaphores pretaining to ether Primes and Meg's point of view or to discribe how evil the G2 bots had become.


Fair enough, that's how I read it. The G2 comics were fairly hard to follow. I actually gave up and never finished them for years, and only recently went back and read them.


Yeah it was a bit hard to follow back then.......mostly because I had a hard time getting every issue.I've since gotten the trade paperback.Having it all in a few books made it eazyer.


ThunderThruster wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Damolisher wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I think Damolisher miss's Tramp :x


Miss him like a hernia. :P

But again, my theory for all this Transformers family BS is simply creation. Similar makes, models, etc, are related, I reckon Sideswipe and Sunstreaker are made by the same creator, and are brothers, Nosecone or Strafe (One of the slagging Technobots.) ask Grimlock in Grimlock's New Brain if he's their father. Grimlock replies with "You could say that." There is no Transformer sex, so it's all based on how they're created.


Again I refere you to this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SniqngdvpQE


and i'd refer you to this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT6AgtcOaRo


Kool I havnt seen these.
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Postby Sire Hate » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:01 am

I thought heard something about this as well, but I'm only returning to Transformers after a long hiatus (since 1989). Anyway, weren't Sunstreaker and Sideswipe brothers, or I am just misremembering this? Transformers lore is so complicated...
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:14 am

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Sire Hate wrote:I thought heard something about this as well, but I'm only returning to Transformers after a long hiatus (since 1989). Anyway, weren't Sunstreaker and Sideswipe brothers, or I am just misremembering this? Transformers lore is so complicated...


Yes they were called brothers but by what means has never be officated.
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