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News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:55 am

Though cartoon accurate in some aspects, the body looks too boxy slender. Is there a way to make the chest appear more separate from his hips? And the face needs to be improved. Just an honest input.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:19 am

fenrir72 wrote:Though cartoon accurate in some aspects, the body looks too boxy slender. Is there a way to make the chest appear more separate from his hips? And the face needs to be improved. Just an honest input.

I agree,I don't need 3rd party toys more boxy than the 1980's toys or cartoon episodes art were.

by **Gurgintius Maximus** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:01 am

Still on board with this. Glad its coming soon!

by **Rated X** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:42 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Rated X wrote: Way before i brought up the milk cartons thing,

I was the one who first mentioned this toy looked like a bunch of milk cardboard milk cartoons pieced together. It was my honest opinion of how I thought this toy looked.

Please stop trying to say to others here that you coined the cardboard milk cartoon phrase in this thread.

Im not trying To take credit for your famed line. All I did was reiterate what you said. But either he didnt catch you post or it was me repeating it that pushed him over the edge. Anyways, the box art looks awesome. Its a shame that the figure wont be those proportions. Everything I was trying to explain about what his figure needed aesthetically, Hasbro captured in their versions robot mode. Sadly, Hasbro made it transform into a giant, out of scale macross jet. So daca wins the alt mode, but Hasbro wins with the robot mode.

by **Gurgintius Maximus** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:21 pm

Meh, Hasbro's version is ok. Ill get it but its not much better than this if any....depending on your tastes I guess

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:01 am

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:00 am

Wow, that is looking amazing! It has come a long way from the first renders. I like the detailing on the figure; it looks like it has much better depth whereas the previous pics made it look so flat. The proportions look so much better, too. I can't wait to see some paint.

In some ways, I hope this is too expensive for me. He's huge and I'm running out of room on my shelves.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:25 am

woah he's really came a long way. this is looking good now.. But wheres the colors? thought this was coming out this month.

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:08 am

Agreed, this is a vast improvement over the earlier images.

Good work guys!

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:12 am

Echoing what others said here - this does actually look fantastic. Hard work paid off!

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:48 pm

Agamemnon wrote:Wow, that is looking amazing! It has come a long way from the first renders. I like the detailing on the figure; it looks like it has much better depth whereas the previous pics made it look so flat. The proportions look so much better, too. I can't wait to see some paint.

In some ways, I hope this is too expensive for me. He's huge and I'm running out of room on my shelves.

It's been up for preorder for months...it's $165 at BBTS and $155 at CapturedPrey. It's apparently $165 with free shipping at thechosenprime.com.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:06 pm

Kibble wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Wow, that is looking amazing! It has come a long way from the first renders. I like the detailing on the figure; it looks like it has much better depth whereas the previous pics made it look so flat. The proportions look so much better, too. I can't wait to see some paint.

In some ways, I hope this is too expensive for me. He's huge and I'm running out of room on my shelves.

It's been up for preorder for months...it's $165 at BBTS and $155 at CapturedPrey. It's apparently $165 with free shipping at thechosenprime.com.

Yeah, that's my laziness coming out, sorry. I still haven't decided if $165 is too expensive...

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:08 pm

Agamemnon wrote:
Kibble wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Wow, that is looking amazing! It has come a long way from the first renders. I like the detailing on the figure; it looks like it has much better depth whereas the previous pics made it look so flat. The proportions look so much better, too. I can't wait to see some paint.

In some ways, I hope this is too expensive for me. He's huge and I'm running out of room on my shelves.

It's been up for preorder for months...it's $165 at BBTS and $155 at CapturedPrey. It's apparently $165 with free shipping at thechosenprime.com.

Yeah, that's my laziness coming out, sorry. I still haven't decided if $165 is too expensive...

That price is surprisingly low. An official MP would probably be $300+ (more if they have to work something out with Harmony Gold)...

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:13 pm

Wow, it's f**king huge! And even with only the prototype, looks superior to Hasbro's Leader Class version. Much more accurate to the character. I will probably pick this up for sure.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:38 pm

megatronus wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Kibble wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Wow, that is looking amazing! It has come a long way from the first renders. I like the detailing on the figure; it looks like it has much better depth whereas the previous pics made it look so flat. The proportions look so much better, too. I can't wait to see some paint.

In some ways, I hope this is too expensive for me. He's huge and I'm running out of room on my shelves.

It's been up for preorder for months...it's $165 at BBTS and $155 at CapturedPrey. It's apparently $165 with free shipping at thechosenprime.com.

Yeah, that's my laziness coming out, sorry. I still haven't decided if $165 is too expensive...

That price is surprisingly low. An official MP would probably be $300+ (more if they have to work something out with Harmony Gold)...

Hasbro don't have to work anything out with Harmony gold. They pretty much won the lawsuit. I'm sure they added that flip on helmet thing to leader class Jetfire so it resembles the Macross design more just to "spit in their faces" lol

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:39 pm

mooncake623 wrote:Hasbro don't have to work anything out with Harmony gold. They pretty much won the lawsuit. I'm sure they added that flip on helmet thing to leader class Jetfire so it resembles the Macross design more just to "spit in their faces" lol

Huzzah!

So just $300 then for the MP

by **Gurgintius Maximus** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:56 pm

Home run! You guys should feel a bit vindicted at the moment. Can not wait!

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:19 pm

I still prefer the HasTak 30th Jetfire leader version. Because it's was brillant doing a 1985 Jetfire toy jet mode with a sleeker looking 1985 Jetfire cartoon robot mode.

I'll admit Deca did improve the Robot mode on Kronos. The Kronos Jet mode still looks overly boxy,undersculpted & terrible.

Even though it's a low price for 3rd party toy this scale. Kronos is simply not worth me spending $165 on.

by **Rated X** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:08 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I still prefer the HasTak 30th Jetfire leader version. Because it's was brillant doing a 1985 Jetfire toy jet mode with a sleeker looking 1985 Jetfire cartoon robot mode.

I'll admit Deca did improve the Robot mode on Kronos. The Kronos Jet mode still looks overly boxy,undersculpted & terrible.

Even though it's a low price for 3rd party toy this scale. Kronos is simply not worth me spending $165 on.

I disagree with you on the Jetfire alt mode. While leader scale is perfect for Skyfire in robot mode on a CHUG shelf, a macross jet is a fighter so it's out of scale. At least Skyfire's alt mode is more of a transport jet.

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:02 pm

I'm waiting to see what FansToys do before making a decision. Theirs will be a bit more expensive, but they are saying it'll be bigger as well. Besides, I can't help feeling the FT one will look better.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:25 pm

Was bigger...new Kronos is 14 inches.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:31 am

The more the merrier then. :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:20 am

I've seen a few here positively comment on the improvements of this toy.
I'm just wondering who's actually going to be buying this toy.

I never liked this toy from day One. Sorry,I just don't need 3rd party TF toys more overly boxy than the original 1980's HasTak toy versions.
While I think the robot mode looks terrible,The jet mode looks even worse.

News Credits: 23 · by **ZenPrime** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:30 pm

The pre-order is already sold out on BBTS?

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:57 pm

ZenPrime wrote:The pre-order is ready sold out on BBTS?

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Yep, I noticed that too. These pics came too late for me unfortunately. I'd cancelled my preorder sometime ago but was starting to reconsider that after seeing the latest pics. Of course when I went to look on BBTS, all gone, sold out, sorry

.

Oh well, I still wasn't completely sold on it (but that alt mode does look great) and wanted to wait for a fully completed/painted version in pics before deciding anyway.