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Favorite Beast Machines figure? AND favorite Beast Wars basic figure

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Postby zemper » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:15 pm

Imperious Prime wrote:
bran10 wrote:
Imperious Prime wrote:Beast Wars - Tigatron
Beast Machines - Battle Unicorn

Tigatron wasn't a basic. he was a deluxe.


I didn't know that. Kind of tiny for a deluxe. I guess then I don't have a favorite Beast Wars Basic, as I don't own any of the molds as I didn't like any of them.


uhh, actually since Tigatron was a direct repaint of Cheetor, he's really not that small. in fact he would be on par with a regular-sized deluxe.

i think the only small-sized Tigatron was a BotCon exclusive (or was it BotCon?) remold of scout-class Cybertron Clocker.

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Postby Dr. Caelus » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:05 am

My Hotpicks:

Beast Machines Vehicons

Mega Class Tankor - It's rediculous that he's only been repainted once, and it was a horrible job. He looks nothing like the cartoon character (if you want accuracy go with the Basic Sized Tank Drone) but looks great in both forms, is heavily armed, and the Cylon-Eye gimmick is amusing. Also, his transformation is surprisingly unique. Does have some issues standing in complex poses in bo-tmode because of loose joints.

Ultra Class Jetstorm - He's pretty animation accurate, but more importantly, he's so big he looks really intimidating next to other TFs. If you keep your collection seperated by series, he'll only be in-scale with AirAttack Primal, Supreme Cheetor, Nightwing, and Rattrap (The BM series really had 3 seperate distinct scales going for some reason). If you mix wantonly though, Ultra Jetstorm looks great standing behind Megatron. There's a reason he was repainted as Cyclonus. Also, his puppet-gimmick and electronics were neat, and didn't interfere with playability IMO. Like the old Transmetals, he has lots of problems with paint chipping though.

Deluxe Jetstorm - This is a good 'stable' figure - no siginificant weaknesses or strengths. As the spiritual successor to the Seekers, there have been a few repaints (Aerodrone, Jhiaxus, Skywarp), and it seems like as a collection they'd be worth more than the sum of their parts, if that makes sense.

There are a lot of others I liked, but they tend to have pretty glaring flaws:
- I loved all the Vehicon basic-sized figures, but the Motorcycle Drone has a boring, non-show-accurate paint job and its arms are too large. Mine still has the clear rubberband to keep his arm-weapon feature stowed away, b/c it was stupid.
- Spystreak's unorthodox bot-mode arms would turn most people off.
- The Tank Drone is just boring, even if it's the most accurate looking toy in the series.
- Mirage is a great figure if you can get past his silly alternate mode (a militarized F-1?), but isn't terribly exciting.
- Obsidian is excellent, but has no hands, and his rotors are really bulky.
- Scavenger, the first BM figure I got, was probably my favorite of the Vehicon basics. His alt-mode is clearly functional - not in any way an attempt at disguise like some of the Vehicons seem to play at with cockpits etc - and his intended function is to crush, kill, and destroy. I suspect few would agree with me though.
- As far as other Vehicon molds, Thrust was a massive dissappointment, and Blastcharge is really best kept in alt-mode. That said, Universe Blastcharge was worth $10 just for the alt-mode. Megabolt Megatron is interesting, but most of his value rests in his uniqueness. I never owned Strika, or Mega-Class Megatron.


Beast Machines Maximals (Not counting the Dinobots)

Battle Unicorn - He has subpar articulation and durability, he's too small for someone to ride him, and his name was submitted at 4:48pm on a Friday, but it doesn't matter, because between the spiked hooves, cool helmet, and shiny axe, he looks so bad@$$ that Decepticons, Vehicons, and Predacons flee at the sight of him. Also his tears cure cancer.

Hammerstrike - Looks great in both forms assuming you don't dismiss the techno-organic look altogether. Also has a subtle pirate theme in bot-mode that is amusing. Plastic feels fragile, but mine has never broken. His weapon may be his weakest point though, it doesn't amount to much.

Skydive - Fantastic articulation, cool gimmick, and decent colors. It's the living-fossil-look that I always loved about him though.

Black Arachnia - The best toy of her so far. Unfortunately, that's not much of a challenge. With the color adjustments Takara made for her Japanese rerelease last year, she is very animation-accurate.

Geckobot - the only Beast Machines Maximal I brought with me to Colorado. For some reason he's just amusing. I was dissapointed that his jaws weren't articulated though.

The others I have owned were Deluxe Primal and Mega Cheetor, and both were pretty much made of suckiness IMO.


Beast Wars Basics

Of the ones I have owned (I lacked Bantor, Airhammer, Gasskunk, and the Earwig), I can't say that any fail to be good toys. The only flaws that come to mind are:
- Megatron's jaws are fragile.
- Noctorro's spring loaded wings are finnicky, and too small.
- Sonar can be tricky to transform.
- Terrorsaur is a Basic when he should have been a Mega.
- Armordillo is bright orange, a color which is neither realistic for an armadillo, nor practical for an ambush fighter.
- Snapper's gun has ED - but that's not a big issue b/c it looks better if you leave it in his shell as a back mounted weapon. Same thing is true to a lesser extent for Razorbeast.

Still, all of the above are good toys. The highlights however would be:

Terragator - Yeah, there really isn't much that needs to be said. Alligator + Alligator Snapping Turtle = Instance of Redundancy being a good thing. Though he's a Fuzor, his beast mode halves go so well together you're inclined to forget. He has a long, if somewhat goofy looking rifle, and a big shield in bot mode. These accessories, paired with his well articulated body, make for some great play options.

Clawjaw - Unless you just stay away from oceanic alts on principle, he's great. Looks great in both forms, especially bot-mode. His weapon is kind of pointless but really, the only real improvement would have been to double his size and give him bendy tentacles.

Spittor - Both original and TMII. The original is partially cool for the fact he looks so realistic in beast mode (translucent skin being a big give-away of course). The TMII version trades this for more range of motion, articulation, and street cred. Both are well articulated though. On the other hand, both have lame gimmicks. Fortunately the gimmicks don't get in the way.

Insecticon - His Energon crossbow is just really cool, and he looks great dragging Maximals to their doom with his mandibles in beast-mode. His robot-mode has an aesthetic coherency to it that many lack.

Quickstrike - Props for cartoon accuracy that Rattrap and Airrazor fall short on. He has great play value with good articulation in both modes. Also, you can tear him apart and put him together again like you can with Waspinator and Inferno, but that's true of most BW Basics. As his joints loosen with time he begins to rag-doll - but that would be true of most toys that received the sort of punishment he did.

Scarem - In honor of board tradition I have to mention him. A horrific B-Movie mishmash of blades, saws, and glowing red eyes, he's the Transformer that ate Chuck Norris's beard (after Chuck Norris had eaten Chester the Cheetah).

Buzzclaw - Like Terragator, his fused beast-modes just fit naturally. The oriental bent to his look is unique. Though his 'weapon' is lame, you can leave it attached to his back in robot-mode and he looks fine. His wings may go limp rather quickly though.

Sonar - Four arms in robot-mode FTW!

Optimus Minor - One of the most ridiculous characters ever - he is Prime's clone, but 1/8th his size! More seriously, he looks cool riding on the backs of other characters, especially Ramulus, and obviously, he has good articulation. His weapon comes off much better in the comics though.

Razorclaw - He makes the list for his razor claw. The big one with the retractable spikes. It's disproportionately fun to play with.
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:27 am

Caelus wrote:Scarem - In honor of board tradition I have to mention him. A horrific B-Movie mishmash of blades, saws, and glowing red eyes, he's the Transformer that ate Chuck Norris's beard (after Chuck Norris had eaten Chester the Cheetah).

Razorclaw - He makes the list for his razor claw. The big one with the retractable spikes. It's disproportionately fun to play with.


have to give it up also for the TM & TM2 basics. these 2 simply rock, and they woulda rocked harder if they were not Preds :P. both of these are sooo fun to play with, and both are pretty solid AND stable in both modes, something most Beast Wars toys are not known of.

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Postby bran10 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:53 am

zemper wrote:
Caelus wrote:Scarem - In honor of board tradition I have to mention him. A horrific B-Movie mishmash of blades, saws, and glowing red eyes, he's the Transformer that ate Chuck Norris's beard (after Chuck Norris had eaten Chester the Cheetah).

Razorclaw - He makes the list for his razor claw. The big one with the retractable spikes. It's disproportionately fun to play with.


have to give it up also for the TM & TM2 basics. these 2 simply rock, and they woulda rocked harder if they were not Preds :P. both of these are sooo fun to play with, and both are pretty solid AND stable in both modes, something most Beast Wars toys are not known of.

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Razorclaw is the crab correct?
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:05 am

bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
Caelus wrote:Scarem - In honor of board tradition I have to mention him. A horrific B-Movie mishmash of blades, saws, and glowing red eyes, he's the Transformer that ate Chuck Norris's beard (after Chuck Norris had eaten Chester the Cheetah).

Razorclaw - He makes the list for his razor claw. The big one with the retractable spikes. It's disproportionately fun to play with.


have to give it up also for the TM & TM2 basics. these 2 simply rock, and they woulda rocked harder if they were not Preds :P. both of these are sooo fun to play with, and both are pretty solid AND stable in both modes, something most Beast Wars toys are not known of.

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Razorclaw is the crab correct?


yup. and one of the best crab-formers out there (aside from Rampage). very solid for it's size. cheap to get also. 8)
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Postby bran10 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:09 am

zemper wrote:
bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
Caelus wrote:Scarem - In honor of board tradition I have to mention him. A horrific B-Movie mishmash of blades, saws, and glowing red eyes, he's the Transformer that ate Chuck Norris's beard (after Chuck Norris had eaten Chester the Cheetah).

Razorclaw - He makes the list for his razor claw. The big one with the retractable spikes. It's disproportionately fun to play with.


have to give it up also for the TM & TM2 basics. these 2 simply rock, and they woulda rocked harder if they were not Preds :P. both of these are sooo fun to play with, and both are pretty solid AND stable in both modes, something most Beast Wars toys are not known of.

:MAX:


Razorclaw is the crab correct?


yup. and one of the best crab-formers out there (aside from Rampage). very solid for it's size. cheap to get also. 8)


Someone is selling all of the basics, and ALOT of the beast wars figures for verycheap so i was thinking of picking some up... He's also selling beast machines figures too, but I'm not a fan.
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:29 am

bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
Caelus wrote:Scarem - In honor of board tradition I have to mention him. A horrific B-Movie mishmash of blades, saws, and glowing red eyes, he's the Transformer that ate Chuck Norris's beard (after Chuck Norris had eaten Chester the Cheetah).

Razorclaw - He makes the list for his razor claw. The big one with the retractable spikes. It's disproportionately fun to play with.


have to give it up also for the TM & TM2 basics. these 2 simply rock, and they woulda rocked harder if they were not Preds :P. both of these are sooo fun to play with, and both are pretty solid AND stable in both modes, something most Beast Wars toys are not known of.

:MAX:


Razorclaw is the crab correct?


yup. and one of the best crab-formers out there (aside from Rampage). very solid for it's size. cheap to get also. 8)


Someone is selling all of the basics, and ALOT of the beast wars figures for verycheap so i was thinking of picking some up... He's also selling beast machines figures too, but I'm not a fan.


if they're for cheap, go get them.

but you have to make sure that the joint condition of the toys are tight, since these run on ball joints.

also, in the case of Transmetals, make sure that the chrome quality is excellent since loose TMs often have cracked or chipped chrome.

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Postby bran10 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:41 am

zemper wrote:
bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
Caelus wrote:Scarem - In honor of board tradition I have to mention him. A horrific B-Movie mishmash of blades, saws, and glowing red eyes, he's the Transformer that ate Chuck Norris's beard (after Chuck Norris had eaten Chester the Cheetah).

Razorclaw - He makes the list for his razor claw. The big one with the retractable spikes. It's disproportionately fun to play with.


have to give it up also for the TM & TM2 basics. these 2 simply rock, and they woulda rocked harder if they were not Preds :P. both of these are sooo fun to play with, and both are pretty solid AND stable in both modes, something most Beast Wars toys are not known of.

:MAX:


Razorclaw is the crab correct?


yup. and one of the best crab-formers out there (aside from Rampage). very solid for it's size. cheap to get also. 8)


Someone is selling all of the basics, and ALOT of the beast wars figures for verycheap so i was thinking of picking some up... He's also selling beast machines figures too, but I'm not a fan.


if they're for cheap, go get them.

but you have to make sure that the joint condition of the toys are tight, since these run on ball joints.

also, in the case of Transmetals, make sure that the chrome quality is excellent since loose TMs often have cracked or chipped chrome.

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They're actually all Misb, I'll show you the link:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=154903

There were alot of good deals, so people jumped on it quick, that's why most of it is on hold.
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Postby Blurrz » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:46 am

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Postby bran10 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:48 am

Blurrz wrote:Depthcharge.. and Terragator
depthcharge isn't a basic I love him though, only gripe i havae about him is that third leg...
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:12 am

bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
Caelus wrote:Scarem - In honor of board tradition I have to mention him. A horrific B-Movie mishmash of blades, saws, and glowing red eyes, he's the Transformer that ate Chuck Norris's beard (after Chuck Norris had eaten Chester the Cheetah).

Razorclaw - He makes the list for his razor claw. The big one with the retractable spikes. It's disproportionately fun to play with.


have to give it up also for the TM & TM2 basics. these 2 simply rock, and they woulda rocked harder if they were not Preds :P. both of these are sooo fun to play with, and both are pretty solid AND stable in both modes, something most Beast Wars toys are not known of.

:MAX:


Razorclaw is the crab correct?


yup. and one of the best crab-formers out there (aside from Rampage). very solid for it's size. cheap to get also. 8)


Someone is selling all of the basics, and ALOT of the beast wars figures for verycheap so i was thinking of picking some up... He's also selling beast machines figures too, but I'm not a fan.


if they're for cheap, go get them.

but you have to make sure that the joint condition of the toys are tight, since these run on ball joints.

also, in the case of Transmetals, make sure that the chrome quality is excellent since loose TMs often have cracked or chipped chrome.

:MAX:

They're actually all Misb, I'll show you the link:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=154903

There were alot of good deals, so people jumped on it quick, that's why most of it is on hold.


WOW. :shock: lots of good toys there. i'm suitably impressed by the MISB Optimal Optimus, he's selling it at retail, considering that this toy should have have marked up already given the time from its original release.

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Postby bran10 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:27 am

zemper wrote:
bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:
Caelus wrote:Scarem - In honor of board tradition I have to mention him. A horrific B-Movie mishmash of blades, saws, and glowing red eyes, he's the Transformer that ate Chuck Norris's beard (after Chuck Norris had eaten Chester the Cheetah).

Razorclaw - He makes the list for his razor claw. The big one with the retractable spikes. It's disproportionately fun to play with.


have to give it up also for the TM & TM2 basics. these 2 simply rock, and they woulda rocked harder if they were not Preds :P. both of these are sooo fun to play with, and both are pretty solid AND stable in both modes, something most Beast Wars toys are not known of.

:MAX:


Razorclaw is the crab correct?


yup. and one of the best crab-formers out there (aside from Rampage). very solid for it's size. cheap to get also. 8)


Someone is selling all of the basics, and ALOT of the beast wars figures for verycheap so i was thinking of picking some up... He's also selling beast machines figures too, but I'm not a fan.


if they're for cheap, go get them.

but you have to make sure that the joint condition of the toys are tight, since these run on ball joints.

also, in the case of Transmetals, make sure that the chrome quality is excellent since loose TMs often have cracked or chipped chrome.

:MAX:

They're actually all Misb, I'll show you the link:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=154903

There were alot of good deals, so people jumped on it quick, that's why most of it is on hold.


WOW. :shock: lots of good toys there. i'm suitably impressed by the MISB Optimal Optimus, he's selling it at retail, considering that this toy should have have marked up already given the time from its original release.

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Yeah too bad most of it is on hold, so not alot of choices left... He's a cool guy, he lives in my city, live 20 minutes away from my house
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:49 am

that's cool, maybe you can negotiate some of the toys on hold from him. he's got pretty much like SRP prices for vintage Beast Wars toys and most of them are must-buys.

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Postby SephM » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:47 am

I actually enjoyed a few of the Beast Machines Toys though im still out to get a Jet storm, Megatron (head) and maybe Tankor. But as for the ones i own, well i really enjoyed Thrust and Blast Punch Optimus Primal. Both were accurate to the show and looked cool to me, also i Enjoyed T-wrecks even though he is Beast Wars megatron repainted ( t-rex)as i like that color scheme for the toy.

For Beast Wars themselves, i really Enjoyed AirHammer and Terrogater ( though this was my friends toy) as they were some of the better fuzors. Also Polar Claw was an awsome toy ( again a friends of mine). I really enjoyed the two Beast wars Combiners both Magnaboss and Tripredacus. Cybershark transmetal was awsome as well( another i did not own but had fun to play with).
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:55 am

SephM wrote:I actually enjoyed a few of the Beast Machines Toys though im still out to get a Jet storm, Megatron (head) and maybe Tankor. But as for the ones i own, well i really enjoyed Thrust and Blast Punch Optimus Primal. Both were accurate to the show and looked cool to me, also i Enjoyed T-wrecks even though he is Beast Wars megatron repainted ( t-rex)as i like that color scheme for the toy.

For Beast Wars themselves, i really Enjoyed AirHammer and Terrogater ( though this was my friends toy) as they were some of the better fuzors. Also Polar Claw was an awsome toy ( again a friends of mine). I really enjoyed the two Beast wars Combiners both Magnaboss and Tripredacus. Cybershark transmetal was awsome as well( another i did not own but had fun to play with).


Magnaboss is a cool combiner, and i'm currently looking for the Takara version, which has red-painted face and more little details compared to the Hasbro version.

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Postby Dr. Caelus » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:35 am

bran10 wrote:They're actually all Misb, I'll show you the link:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=154903

There were alot of good deals, so people jumped on it quick, that's why most of it is on hold.


Wow, there is a lot of stuff on that list I want, at prices I'd pay, and half of it isn't on hold.

Just can't work up the nerve to mess with Paypal again (bad experience with ID theft). :-(

Edit: Still, my wife was wanting ideas for things to get me for Birthday/Christmas/Anniversary, and the list of stuff I want comes to less than half the cost of Reissue Skylynx...

Edit II: I'm going for it dammit; half dozen BW TFs > G1 Skylynx.
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:28 pm

Caelus wrote:
bran10 wrote:They're actually all Misb, I'll show you the link:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=154903

There were alot of good deals, so people jumped on it quick, that's why most of it is on hold.


Wow, there is a lot of stuff on that list I want, at prices I'd pay, and half of it isn't on hold.

Just can't work up the nerve to mess with Paypal again (bad experience with ID theft). :-(

Edit: Still, my wife was wanting ideas for things to get me for Birthday/Christmas/Anniversary, and the list of stuff I want comes to less than half the cost of Reissue Skylynx...

Edit II: I'm going for it dammit; half dozen BW TFs > G1 Skylynx.


cool! please tell us what are you getting. if i lived there i'd also probably go for it; the prices are really good for MISB vintage Beast Wars toys and the selection is great too.

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Postby Alex Kingdom » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:01 pm

Megatron the Great wrote:Even though it was released during Robots In Disguise... I like Air Attack Optimus Primal.
He has a great amount of Articulation, in both modes, features Gary Chalk (The voice of Primal in the show) on electronics, and has a paint scheme that is close, if not identical to the show.


Arguably the best TF figure ever! I love Beast Machines, not all the toys were great but on the strength of the show I had to get the entire cast and as show accurate as possible:

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Postby SephM » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:10 pm

zemper wrote:
Magnaboss is a cool combiner, and i'm currently looking for the Takara version, which has red-painted face and more little details compared to the Hasbro version.

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Awsome let me know how he is when ya get him :), i personally liked the Predacon one a little bit more ( im such a decepticon/ predacon lover :P )

edit: Nice collection AK, im currently trying to get the Megatron Megabolt and a few other Beast Machines toys ( the ones based off the show characters are pretty cool imo), and i have the blast punch primal who i thought was pretty accurate, though only a tad on the color scheme, but that air attack one looks pretty cool.
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Postby bran10 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:38 pm

Alex Kingdom wrote:
Megatron the Great wrote:Even though it was released during Robots In Disguise... I like Air Attack Optimus Primal.
He has a great amount of Articulation, in both modes, features Gary Chalk (The voice of Primal in the show) on electronics, and has a paint scheme that is close, if not identical to the show.


Arguably the best TF figure ever! I love Beast Machines, not all the toys were great but on the strength of the show I had to get the entire cast and as show accurate as possible:

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I didn't know air attack primal was that good! i guess, that i didn't like him so much just because he was a beast machine figure.
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Postby Icetron » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:01 pm

I didn't dislike the BM show, but I have little interest for most of the toys.

The ones that I might get later from Beast Machines are:

Motorcycle Drone
Terranotron (The red/white TM Terrorsaur repaint)
Obsidian (Any one of the 3 colours)

Ones that look okay but I might not buy are:

Air Attack Optimus Primal
Jet Drone

For Beast Wars basics I only have: Video Airrazor, Terrorsaur, Snarl and Razorbeast.

I can't say much about Snarl since he's on the way (in the mail) but my favourite one is Razorbeast so far. The transformation is simple and fun, and he's awesome in both modes for a toy of his size. I also like Terrorsaur since he was my first TF ever, but his feet always pop off and his transformation is way too simple...a cool toy but too small.[/b]
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:03 pm

great collection AK, you have 2 of my must-must have toys there: Optimal Optimus & Tigerhawk.


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Postby bran10 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:06 pm

zemper wrote:great collection AK, you have 2 of my must-must have toys there: Optimal Optimus & Tigerhawk.


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You're looking for tigerhawk? your in the philipines?
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Postby Dr. Caelus » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:20 pm

zemper wrote:cool! please tell us what are you getting. if i lived there i'd also probably go for it; the prices are really good for MISB vintage Beast Wars toys and the selection is great too.

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Hopefully I'm getting:

Airhammer (Fuzor)
Airrazor (TransMetal) Fox Kids repaint
Bantor (Fuzor)
Drill Bit
Powerpinch

3 of them I missed originally, two I got rid of and regretted it later. I also asked to be on the list for Buzzsaw if the current buyer backs out.

As yet he hasn't responded though. :-(

After I go back to Missouri this Christmas, I think I'll be bringing back my boxes of BW figs. Then you'll see a collection. 8)
Check out my books, Titanomachies and Divine Retribution, on my blog!
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:24 pm

bran10 wrote:
zemper wrote:great collection AK, you have 2 of my must-must have toys there: Optimal Optimus & Tigerhawk.


:MAX:

You're looking for tigerhawk? your in the philipines?


yup, that i am, and i'm looking for one. :D


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all the comments above are the HUMBLE OPINIONS of the said user only. 'nuff sed.
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