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Which Supreme sized Transformers were awful & which were amazing. which were mediocre? which were barely okay?

Here's my quick 2 cents:

Supreme Beastmachines cheetor was just pure awful. my favorite mode was the beast mode. once it gets into robot mode then it's downhill & just awful. the toy was oversized by about 70%. some of the gimmicks ruined some poseabilty in the limbs. the over all design looked like a human skeleton. not fond of putting human dentist approved perfect teeth inside of a robot head's mouth.

Supreme sized Beastmachines/Rid air attack Optimus Primal. the best part about this toy is hearing the iconic gary chalk voice actor voice chip. the toy is pretty decent in both modes. I actually like this toy. Optimus Primal in my opinion got more awful toys than decent toys in Beastwars & Beastmachines.
this Supreme BM/RID Opimus primal toy is one of the decent ones. the supreme toy appears to have a somewhat decent transformation. is highly detailed & is just beutifully sculpted in both modes.

Supreme sized Armada Unicron. What a beautiful toy mold easily the best of all the supreme sized transformers toys. this toy was well worth the wait. this toy is easily the most super poseable & most adult looking of all Supreme sized TF toys. I like the sleekness & high sculpt this toy features. the light up hand & eyes mix well with G-1.

Supreme sized unicron has received plenty of repaints & remolds. i'm not a fan of the energon black unicron because the whole point behind unicron is his iconic orange colors. the amazon.com hasbro 2011 colors dare I say are the worst of them all. I really wish I had the money to get the Takara 2010 unicron colors as I view this as the best of them all. the armada unicron colors is my second favorite color scheme sans the purple.

Energon Omega supreme. I don't like this toy at all. It's just a awful toy. if anyones seen the 1980's centurion cartoon episodes. this energon omega supreme toy looks like that centurions episode where doc terror & hacker's cyborg parts merge to form a sentinet robot. the over all energon supreme sized omega toy looks like 2 tonka play school designed toys made of super thick plastic. I'm just not a fan of the alt modes nor the robot mode. the toy looks like it has FORCED articulation. It's definately a toddler friendly toy.

Cybertron Supreme sized PLanet Primus. it's a spectaular toy that looks like it was created & catered towards adults. it pulls off a better looking planet mode than unicron. it transforms without needing parts coming off to transform like armada unicron needs toys. sadly Primus lacks the super poseability that unicron has. the primus toy is a bit shorter but more stable on display shelves than unicron is. the gimmicks of primus seem less kiddie compared to unicrons chest missle gimmicks.

Supreme sized Cybertron Starscream toy. apparently Hasbro can't blow up/expand/increase TF toys properly as the proportions are was off & look fat & short in most spots. the voyager sized starscream toy was more sleek. hasbro chose to beef up certain body parts for the increased supreme sized version. like the forearms & other parts. personally it's not a bad toy,it does look decent in both modes. and the toy has a reason to be huge as it did grow in the cybertron cartoon series. I'd give this toy a MEDIOCRE ratting.

Animated Supreme sized Optimus Prime. this toy is complete garbage/awful. this appears to be catered towards the kids/toddlers. the toy gets minuses for having that weird designed waiste plate in both modes that just furter ruin a already awful design. The toy sculpt/engineering was literally ruined by it's auto-transform gimmick.

ROTF Supreme/ultimate sized Devestator. This toy is complete garbage. what ruins this toy for me is the piss poor engineering in gestalt combiner mode. one has to literally sit their for a extended period & keep adjusting the legs & hips so the toy doesn't fall apart due to the weird ape/gorilla devestator hunch back thing the designers created for the gestalt mode. another thing I hate about the toy is the fact the individual alt modes look like six super thick & super heavy plastic playschool tonka vechicles toys. from a huge distance away,the toy does look visally decent. however the toy can't use any of it's poseabilty due to it not having a stable display robot mode. the toy also does lack some poseability in robot mode. Over-all I'd give this toy a "F" score,F is for Fail & not the other word.

The Movie verse Ultimate/supreme Bumblebee toys. I'm not a fan of over sized Transformers toys. movie verse bumblebee should be no bigger than deluxe size. with the acceptable $29.99 HA voyager size as it's only 1.5 inches more. At the very least they could have appealed to model cars buyers by putting realistic interior car seats inside the car, a steering wheel,a dash board,a shifter & back rear view mirror inside the front winshield. the ultimate version looked kinda fat in both modes,with too many kiddie gimmicks.
the Rotf New face mask did look better on the ultimate mode. the Rotf new mold toy selling for $59.99 was a bit better looking than the ultimate version but it was still awful,over sized & had it's share of flaws.

lol, on a side note thats anything but quick 2 cents XD but anyways i hate the rollout command animated prime, ultimate bumblebee, DOTM ultimate prime. that BB just looks awful, and i would like TFA ultimate prime if it had more flexibility same with DOTM ultimate prime.

the ones on my good side are unicron, primus and cybertron SS.

You forgot G1 Trypticon and Scorpinok.
I'll forgive you
What Scale does Fort Max fall under?

BeastProwl wrote:You forgot G1 Trypticon and Scorpinok.
I'll forgive you
What Scale does Fort Max fall under?

he is in the bitchin scale

Doubledealer93 wrote:lol, on a side note thats anything but quick 2 cents XD but anyways i hate the rollout command animated prime, ultimate bumblebee, DOTM ultimate prime. that BB just looks awful, and i would like TFA ultimate prime if it had more flexibility same with DOTM ultimate prime.

the ones on my good side are unicron, primus and cybertron SS.

I forgot all about Dotm ultimate optimus prime. I bought the toy,tried it then returned it. what a piece of garbage. the combined trailer suit of robot armor takes away leg poseability. the mech tech weapon is so over sized,heavy & toddler looking.

The only saving grace on the DOTM Ultimate optimus prime toy. is the smaller ultra sized robot/truck cab optimus toy. but it's not worth buying everything for $70+.

at best this ultra sized robot/truck cab toy should be repackaged & sold seperatly for $19.99. or better yet include a jetfire armor for the robot & alt mode to wear.

BeastProwl wrote:You forgot G1 Trypticon and Scorpinok.
I'll forgive you
What Scale does Fort Max fall under?

I originally meant this thread to include actually transformers that got called the supreme/ultimate size class. mainly new age transformers toys from the year 2000 thru 2011.

but if some of you guys want to add in the 1980's G-1 City formers. then by all means add them into this thread & discuss them

My favs are Cybertron Srarscream and Unicron

Worst- Ultimate Cheetor.

If G1 is included, of course Fortress Maximus (and all his repaints) is one of the best ones as far as display goes. Not too poseable, but it's OK, it just towers over everything else. I like my Armada Unicron as well ay my Cybertron Supreme Starscream. And I wouldn't consider Ultimate Prime or the big Animated Prime "supreme class" because they're not that big compared to Unicron or even Devastator.

Rodimus Prime wrote:If G1 is included, of course Fortress Maximus (and all his repaints) is one of the best ones as far as display goes. Not too poseable, but it's OK, it just towers over everything else. I like my Armada Unicron as well ay my Cybertron Supreme Starscream. And I wouldn't consider Ultimate Prime or the big Animated Prime "supreme class" because they're not that big compared to Unicron or even Devastator.

If where including the 1980's TF City bots into this thread.

then I'd rate the 2 1987 city bots as more superior than the 2 1986 city bots.

mainly because the 2 1987 city bots had more poseabilty. more play value,more gimmicks. bigger size,more weapons & so forth.

Metroplex was kinda tiny & his vechicle mode was just weird. it was a water based aircraft carrier that had wheels & rode around on the ground/streets.

metroplex didn't have that much poseability

trypticon while cute in T-rex mode. their was no robot mode. the T-rex mode really didn't offer much play value nor did it have much poseability. the city & attack mode were basically the same,just with added stuff & extended stuff.

1985 Omega supreme I never liked because it didn't really transform. to me it was a lego parts former that fell apart & re-arranged into different modes.

deathy wrote:
trypticon while cute in T-rex mode. their was no robot mode. the T-rex mode really didn't offer much play value nor did it have much poseability. the city & attack mode were basically the same,just with added stuff & extended stuff.

Trypticons robot mode is a T-Rex. I have to disagree that the T-Rex mode had little play value. When that toy was brand new he was so badass. You put batteries in him, turn him on and watch him stomp on through nearly any other bot, con or toy on the battle field.
I would battle Starrior Dead Eye against him and not even discs of flying death would stop Trypticon.
He may lack articulation, but back then that was the trend in Transformers so it really didn't matter.

I really like Energon Unicron the best out of all the Unicrons. His colors beat out the G1 colors in my eyes. Just so dark and menacing.

Amazon Unicron I haven't actually seen with my own eyes. I hear his colors are either great or awful depending on who I read.

I got Supreme RotF Devestator on a whim because he was on sale. He now lives in a shelf. I dunno why I bought the thing. With the vehicles having no robot mode you'd think they could do something more clever than what they came up with.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I really like Energon Unicron the best out of all the Unicrons. His colors beat out the G1 colors in my eyes. Just so dark and menacing.

Amazon Unicron I haven't actually seen with my own eyes. I hear his colors are either great or awful depending on who I read.

I got Supreme RotF Devestator on a whim because he was on sale. He now lives in a shelf. I dunno why I bought the thing. With the vehicles having no robot mode you'd think they could do something more clever than what they came up with.

my main problem when I had ROTF Supreme sized devestator. was the hunched over robot mode & the hips+legs+knees being so awfully engineered that the toy couldn't stand up properly nor hold it's heavy weight. Their needed to be tons of fiddling with the legs to get it to be stable enough to not fall backwards or forward. NEEDLESS TO SAY the slightest bump,wing or wave would make the toy fall forward/backward.

honestly the toy itself in devestator mode was very awesome & detailed. I JUST COULDN'T get past the poor statbilty standing up problems in robot mode.

I sold off the ROTF Supreme sized cheetor & got the walmart legends sized devestator store exclusive. I figured this toy was cool on various levels (1) it was in diaclone constructicons colors. (2)The 1985 constructicons toys were way smaller than the avergage basic sized TF toys. so having them as legends size wasn't out of scale. (3)these 6 legends sized constructcions actually transformed into individual robot modes. (4) the combined legends size devestator was more stable in robot mode due to their being better engineering,better joint technology/structure & the over all toy being much lighter in weight.

I have G1 Metroplex, Scorponok and Trypticon and I think they're good for their day. I certainly loved the first two when I got them as a child.

Unicron and Primus are the only other supreme class figures I have and I think they;re pretty good. As far as screen accuracy goes Unicron is spot on. I don't know about Primus as I can't bring myself to watch Cybertron after that awful first episode!

All the others: I don't have them cos I don't want them!