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cheetor here is a vast improvement from his previous generations version, but he is far from perfect. it seems that cheetor really cant catch a break, as his figures including his masterpiece version have all kinds of issues. (looking at mine with his disintegrating joints and hole-y beast mode) still for a main line figure its not bad, though I feel like he needed maybe just a smattering of gold paint. the yellow here washes out the details. One thing I find neat though, is that his tail weapon isnt the only thing taken from his transmetal version. his face sculpt really (imho) looks more like his transmetal on screen face then his v1 face. the thing I do love about this guy though is the thing I loved about rattrap, which is the attempt to make the beast mode as accurate to a real cheetah as possible. dig that one.

Yeah, digging cheetor there. I like his proportion. The accidental butterfly joint due to transformation is a welcome. No giant tumor caused by uselessly feeble gimmick, yay. Only nktpick i have is that he don't get a gun. But eh, shockwave lab or someone else most likely will take care of that in due time. Overall, definitely getting him.

Might be plausible that the Netflix Cheetor listing will be this with new paint and maybe a gut gun

Deadput wrote:Might be plausible that the Netflix Cheetor listing will be this with new paint and maybe a gut gun

This is what I'm hoping for, because the deco is my main problem with this Cheetor. Hopefully the Netflix Cheetor will use a darker blue and will add some gold paint on his arms and maybe his thighs.

My only other issue with Cheetor is how his shoulders sit a bit farther back on his body than normal, other than that he looks great. It even improves on the MP in some ways, like using the actual cheetah head in robot mode and basically the entire beast mode. That glorious cheetah mode...

Super excited for the Blackarachnia review.

I also really appreciate that Hasbro and Takara Tomy are going for more realistic looking animal modes for Kingdom. They look much cooler that way, and probably more appealing to more casual fans on store shelves. The CGI models from the original cartoon look, well...cartoonish. It's a different style, but it can be off putting if didn't grow up with the original cartoon.

It shouldn't be that odd to anyone that Hasbro and Takara Tomy went this route with the beasts either. They essentially have done the same with the vehicle/machine based Transformers in this line too. That's why we've got a licensed VW mode for the upcoming Netflix Bumblebee and not a squat little penny-racer version like the original toy and cartoon model. Same goes for Cliffjumper being a proper sports car, not a super-deformed, squat little toy car. We've got realistic vehicle modes and (relatively) screen accurate robot modes with added sculpted detail to make them feel more "alive" and less cartoonish.

Tuned Agent wrote:

Deadput wrote:Might be plausible that the Netflix Cheetor listing will be this with new paint and maybe a gut gun

This is what I'm hoping for, because the deco is my main problem with this Cheetor. Hopefully the Netflix Cheetor will use a darker blue and will add some gold paint on his arms and maybe his thighs.

I concur. I'd rather Kingdom Cheetor have had a little more paint detail, especially the gold highlights. A bit more blue, of the right hue, would also do. Here's hoping the Netflix version will come through!

Wolfman Jake wrote:I also really appreciate that Hasbro and Takara Tomy are going for more realistic looking animal modes for Kingdom. They look much cooler that way, and probably more appealing to more casual fans on store shelves. The CGI models from the original cartoon look, well...cartoonish. It's a different style, but it can be off putting if didn't grow up with the original cartoon.

It shouldn't be that odd to anyone that Hasbro and Takara Tomy went this route with the beasts either. They essentially have done the same with the vehicle/machine based Transformers in this line too. That's why we've got a licensed VW mode for the upcoming Netflix Bumblebee and not a squat little penny-racer version like the original toy and cartoon model. Same goes for Cliffjumper being a proper sports car, not a super-deformed, squat little toy car. We've got realistic vehicle modes and (relatively) screen accurate robot modes with added sculpted detail to make them feel more "alive" and less cartoonish.

Tuned Agent wrote:

Deadput wrote:Might be plausible that the Netflix Cheetor listing will be this with new paint and maybe a gut gun

This is what I'm hoping for, because the deco is my main problem with this Cheetor. Hopefully the Netflix Cheetor will use a darker blue and will add some gold paint on his arms and maybe his thighs.

I concur. I'd rather Kingdom Cheetor have had a little more paint detail, especially the gold highlights. A bit more blue, of the right hue, would also do. Here's hoping the Netflix version will come through!

You know, I hadn't considered that possibility about why they had made the animal modes more realistic

The mould itself isn't too bad, a huge improvement over the Universe 2.0 Cheetor for sure and I like the cheetah mode a lot, but I agree with many on here that the colours let it down. I don't like the flat light blue, and it would be great if the Netflix War for Cybertron Trilogy Cheetor we're supposedly getting uses a darker shade of blue and perhaps some gold paint along the arms and thighs.

Otaku-mus Prime wrote:There seem to be a lot of complaints about Cheetor. I would have thought Beast Wars fans would be ecstatic for this. I never got into BW, but even I am impressed by this figure. Perhaps these are geared more toward G1 fans, like myself, to expand the BW fan base. Beast mode - realistic, yet well-articulated. Robot mode - badass and super posable. I guess since G1 and BW are sharing a line, they should share a similar esthetic.

If BW doesn't do well, Hasbro can always sideline them again.

I feel the same way. Maybe i don't have much say in this either since i watched some of BW but not all of the series. I did like the ones i watched, but the toys IMO, with the exception of Megatron...incidentally is the only other version that suits him other than the gun to me.....were shite...
..but I'm really digging cheetor myself. A definite buy for me. I can't wait to see what Megatron is going to look lije...

If shadowpanthor is using the same mold at least the chest split wont be as noticable in beast mode. Shame the old toys limbs couldnt be switched onto Kingdoms bot mode.

Deadput wrote:Might be plausible that the Netflix Cheetor listing will be this with new paint and maybe a gut gun

Or this mold but just with burn marks.

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Might be plausible that the Netflix Cheetor listing will be this with new paint and maybe a gut gun

Or this mold but just with burn marks.

Real cheetahs always have battle damage, don't you know? Those black spots are all scorch marks!

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Might be plausible that the Netflix Cheetor listing will be this with new paint and maybe a gut gun

Or this mold but just with burn marks.

Or more organic battle damage, like revealing flesh wounds with blood, or hanging guts.
....my god, why did i even think that.

bacem wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Might be plausible that the Netflix Cheetor listing will be this with new paint and maybe a gut gun

Or this mold but just with burn marks.

Or more organic battle damage, like revealing flesh wounds with blood, or hanging guts.
....my god, why did i even think that.

Ultra gear!

...Come on, someone had to say it.

Yes, I'd prefer a gun, but in the interest of keeping the cheetah mode from being too bulky, I can live with them omitting it, and the tail whip looks enough like his Transmetal weapon that I'm comfotrable saying "good enough". Plus I'm thrilled that they're returning to the "hidden weapon" style for the BW guys rather than the "just plug it on wherever" method we've seen for most G1-based figures since Combiner Wars. Peg holes would NOT look right on an organic beast mode.

BOOM!

Sabrblade wrote:BOOM!

I've seen this video a few times today and all I can say is did they purposefully mistransform Blackarachnia? The figures look great except for her the way he has her shoulders not rotated up.

I like him a lot. I think the robot mode is a nice middle ground between the more organic BW style and the more blocky g1 vehicle figures. My only real complaint is that I wish the tail were articulated.

aronjlove wrote:I've seen this video a few times today and all I can say is did they purposefully mistransform Blackarachnia? The figures look great except for her the way he has her shoulders not rotated up.

It was a mistake. They say they'll transform her correctly in an upcoming video.

On the topic of battle damaged Cheetor, what if it's limited to robot mode limbs and such? Cause in the cartoon, they would use the beast mode to "heal" minor damage when they were away from base

You just know that if not for the brand unification Takara would have so given her orange spider legs.

Sabrblade wrote:You just know that if not for the brand unification Takara would have so given her orange spider legs.

Oh definitely.

The black spider legs don't bother me as much as I thought they would. She really does look like a cheaper, smaller version of her masterpiece toy, it's awesome.

I'm not as thrilled with Cheetor, though. I feel he needs a bit more blue, like I'm sure I'd have liked him a lot more if that inner abdomen piece was blue. Not happy with the choice of weapon either. And the missing kibble on the arms, specially given how big that shoulder kibble ends up being.

Oh well, two excellent looking toys and one mediocre one out of three is still a very good outcome. Can't wait to see the rest of the cast and the official reveals.

By the way, I'm sure TonTon must be a factory worker who pockets some early samples. No idea about PrimevsPrime, since he's british, but he's got enough viewers that he might be buying them off some subscriber who steals from the factory too.

Some guy on youtube is saying the Titan Class is the Ark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6q9d3Qv80E

I'm not sure if it's 'news' or not, but there it is.

Just submitted news on kingdom black arachnia with pics and possible Ark playset. Hope I did it right lol

We have two pieces of Transformers WFC Kingdom news for you today. Firstly, Ton Ton's review of deluxe Blackarachnia came out. While some are equating this to a budget masterpiece, it can also look like your standard deluxe with your standard amount of paint and a beast mode that looks worse than the Masterpiece version. You'll let us know which way you gravitate when describing the figure.

We also have what could be our first glimpse at the Titan Class ark toy that will be released in the Kingdom line. We see it in ark mode and we see Teklatraan 1. The image comes from Marco Madrys.



We thank fellow seibertronians Wonko-the-sane, Sabrblade, Dominus Prime and Sol magnus for informing us of these two awesome pieces of news.