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I don't have Generations Wheeljack, but I do have Tracks and Prime Wheeljack is the better figure. I know he's not geewun, but the generations figure is loaded with kibble and has a very swollen look. Prime Wheeljack has a great transformation and almost no kibble in robot mode.

Gyrotron wrote:Prime Wheeljack. Generations looks too much like the G1 toy rather than his animation model.

You can just put Generations Wheeljack's accessories on Prime's. Ain't rocket science. It annoys me when people put down the whole figure because of an on screen character portrayal and his sword accessories. Simple fix: Remove the swords from the picture. Swap weapons. Forget everything about the damn Driftjack characterization, and he's not a bad Wheeljack.

THANK YOU!!!

I was reading through this whole thread, and my jaw was agape at the comments.

Generations WJ is a fine figure, but he's less Wheeljack, and too much of a Tracks repaint. And look at the alt mode. Does it look like a Lancia Stratos? No. No it does not.

So, plusses for TF:P WJ:
His alt mode is an excellent update to the Lancia.
His long arms ape the arms in the G1 toy (pun intended).
The Wings are awesome on TF:P WJ, the wings on Generations WJ look all wrong.
Generations WJ = horrible backpack kibble.
While both are kind of short, Generations WJ is REALLY short.
Really cool transform.
Doesn't look like Tracks' little brother.

Minuses for TF:P WJ:
Comes with swords
Has a bit of arm kibble
If you want to get picky you can add this:
The face on TF:P is a little stylized

To fix he few perceived problems I did this.

I gave the swords to Drift (who should have them anyway) and made a couple shoulder cannons for him.*see recipe below

Realized the arm kibble is a LOT less annoying than people like to whine about.

While the face certainly has "a look", I don't find it too far off the normal look for Classics figs. If it really bugs you swap the head with Generations or Energon Downshift.

For me there was no comparison. I yanked my Generations WJ with reprolabels, in favor of the TF:P version.

* To make launchers, take a launcher from Grindcore or Landmine, and shorten the "smokestacks" a little, and carefully trim the peg to fit in the shoulder hinge behind his head (or just pop them in the 5mm peg holes on the outside of the shoulders, but I think the behind the head look is better). Get a missile, ROTF Starscream's work nice. If you wish, shorten them up by cutting off the end and creating new latches in the back. Paint 'em up a simple black. Done. Of course, if you muck up your figures, parts or fingers, don't blame me, this is merely a suggestion

Gyrotron wrote:Prime Wheeljack.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:Prime Wheeljack is the better figure.

rpetras wrote:THANK YOU!!!

I was reading through this whole thread, and my jaw was agape at the comments.

And so begins the line of Prime Wheeljack likes

I'd say both, as they are two different characters.

In all senses, continuity, portrayal and so on.
Prime WJ is an hommage to G1 WJ, as is Breakdown.

If you were to choose one, I agree with whoever says that it depends on the rest of the collection: you want something 'classic'? Generations. More streamlined and Aligned? Prime.

IMHO I feel it simply has to do with fans that are true to G1 and those that don't care for G1. I think both renditions are great in their own right. Every time I have seen a Prime WJ on the peg I stare at it thinking. The flaws are what keeps me (cuz I'm that damn picky) from buying him and it's cuz of his strange looking wings and how his head sits in bot mode. The fact that they gave him crappy weapons thanks to Takomy is a fixer.

One thing that gets me is why the image on the card shows WJ holding some type of firing weapon rather than his blades...?

Nemesis Destron wrote:One thing that gets me is why the image on the card shows WJ holding some type of firing weapon rather than his blades...?

Because he uses it in the show.



I'ma Geewunner myself, and even I like the Prime Wheeljack figure. It's more like G1 than it's CGI Model IMO.

Gyrotron wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:One thing that gets me is why the image on the card shows WJ holding some type of firing weapon rather than his blades...?

Because he uses it in the show.



I'ma Geewunner myself, and even I like the Prime Wheeljack figure. It's more like G1 than it's CGI Model IMO.

Well that explains it considering my not caring for the show, thanks Gyrotron. But it's funny how things involving show accuracy can be a hit and miss sometimes. Like the image you posted, his feet seem to be (or at least look) a different color and the actual figure they are black. In the show he uses a firing weapon and the figure he's got swords so it can leave one thinking "WTF".

Well he uses the swords also. That's why everyone calls him "Drift-jack" or "Wheel-drift".

It is impossible to fit both swords on that package (with the toy inside) and make them visible. They'll put whatever weapon is short enough to fit on the box and still show a majority of his body in a kick ass pose.

Nemesis Destron wrote: In the show he uses a firing weapon and the figure he's got swords so it can leave one thinking "WTF".

They did the same thing with Cliffjumper (Battle Hammer), Arcee (Ion Blaster), Megatron (Battle Knife Thingy), and Optimus Prime (Dinky Gun, n00b!). But they somehow managed to get the right weapons on Bumblebee (arm blasters), Soundwave (Laserbeak), Ratchet (Knives), Vehicon (Some...blaster thing...), and Knock Out (Staff that Electrucutes n00bs). Aside from that, he also uses the swords.

Nemesis Destron wrote:But it's funny how things involving show accuracy can be a hit and miss sometimes. Like the image you posted, his feet seem to be (or at least look) a different color and the actual figure they are black.

Well, he's also suppoesd to have a hip-gernade, red sword handles, and a greyer face, but we didn't get those either . Nofigure's perfect, sadly.

Moving on...

I now have both, and I love them both. There's no way I could pick just one, they're both great figures and I'm glad to have them.