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o.supreme wrote:TLK Deluxe Cogman and Generations TR Deluxe Wave 5 apparently have far more in common than previously thought...were any other TLK deluxes equally as scarce?

Hell wave 2 TLK was hard to find on the West Coast for a long time. It's only really started showing up at Toys R US due to them liquidating inventory. I've maybe seen wave 2 deluxes once at a Target or Walmart in California... and that was by no means "during the window of relevancy" when the movie was out.

The rare exception seemed to be the Voyagers. Wave 1 and 2 seemed to be pretty regular. Though Scorn and Nitro were very hit and miss.

Robots in Disguise were hit and miss, though I think there was also a BIG lag between waves. Or got lost with wave repacks.

ah cock.

i didnt know it was the entire wave 2 that was going for 16.99.

managed to snag a rippersnapper before he went back up but it wouldve been a great chance to pick up the last two dinos i needed for volcanicus.

like others have said i reckon itll happen again so i'll keep the eye out.

with shipping included its only 1 euro odd more than retail in my country so its deffo worth it.

I am currently compiling a list of toys that seem to have been skipped in the US. While there were not a lot of them, the US did get wave five titans return, at target. But you guys have yet to get the cyclone us and heat seeker legion toys from robots in disguise.. Also can somebody confirm if the last night legion dragon storm and hound were found at retail, along with all spark squeaks and Megatron?

partholon wrote:ah cock.

i didnt know it was the entire wave 2 that was going for 16.99.

Yep... This is why I'm skipping Blackwing. If Hasbro want's to continue hiking up the prices then I'm going to be less likely to collect every Generations figure I spot.

He's going to be the most likely to shelf warm in this wave anyway. So let me know when there's a 25% off clearance for him in May or June.

you have a better chance at buying at normal prices when buying from places like BBTS or TFsource
then you can just buy the whole assortment or wave in one purchase and you sometimes save money that way rather than buying individually

YoungPrime wrote:

partholon wrote:ah cock.

i didnt know it was the entire wave 2 that was going for 16.99.

Yep... This is why I'm skipping Blackwing. If Hasbro want's to continue hiking up the prices then I'm going to be less likely to collect every Generations figure I spot.

He's going to be the most likely to shelf warm in this wave anyway. So let me know when there's a 25% off clearance for him in May or June.

Um, isn't $15-$17 what Titans Return deluxes went for? How is Hasbro hiking up the prices? I'm pretty sure MSRP has remained the same for PotP as it was for TR. Stores may have increased their prices slightly over time, but that isn't Hasbro.

Also, Blackwing being single packed in the case isn't likely to shelfwarm that much, at least not in this wave. Possibly in wave 4 when he is re-packed, and out around the lead up to Christmas. This is when you'll want to look for a deal. And clearance usually doesn't happen until the end of the line, so again wave 4 around Christmas or just after like Titans Return did earlier this year. The 17 Blurrs and Scourges that were shelfwarming my local Walmart for 9 months didn't get clearanced until PotP was out in stores.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:

partholon wrote:ah cock.

i didnt know it was the entire wave 2 that was going for 16.99.

Yep... This is why I'm skipping Blackwing. If Hasbro want's to continue hiking up the prices then I'm going to be less likely to collect every Generations figure I spot.

He's going to be the most likely to shelf warm in this wave anyway. So let me know when there's a 25% off clearance for him in May or June.

Um, isn't $15-$17 what Titans Return deluxes went for? How is Hasbro hiking up the prices? I'm pretty sure MSRP has remained the same for PotP as it was for TR. Stores may have increased their prices slightly over time, but that isn't Hasbro.

Also, Blackwing being single packed in the case isn't likely to shelfwarm that much, at least not in this wave. Possibly in wave 4 when he is re-packed, and out around the lead up to Christmas. This is when you'll want to look for a deal. And clearance usually doesn't happen until the end of the line, so again wave 4 around Christmas or just after like Titans Return did earlier this year. The 17 Blurrs and Scourges that were shelfwarming my local Walmart for 9 months didn't get clearanced until PotP was out in stores.

Agreed. The only time I've found PotP wave 2 in stores, all of the figures were still in stock, EXCEPT Blackwing and Moonracer. Rippersnapper seems to be the shelfwarmer.
Titans Return Deluxes were also $16.99 at my local Target. Walmart had them for around $15, and still does, so I don't think there's been any sort of price jump.
And my experience with getting Transformers on clearance is basically non-existent. If a figure's popular and rare enough, it's never gonna be found on sale. Take TR Perceptor for example. I saw his wave once in stores, and waited to get him, hoping for a sale at some point. Eventually someone bought him and I never saw that wave resurface again.

Just so everyone is all on the same page, the MSRP for these wave 2 deluxes is $19.99. Target and Walmart lower them to whatever price they want. But there has been a price jump, some retailers just arent doing it on their end yet for these toys.

Transformers: Generations Power of the Primes Deluxe Class Terrorcon Rippersnapper

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 SRP /Available: Spring 2018)

o.supreme wrote:TLK Deluxe Cogman and Generations TR Deluxe Wave 5 apparently have far more in common than previously thought...were any other TLK deluxes equally as scarce?

Most people never saw more than wave 1 and some very late wave 2. As far as I know, only like 3 people in the US ever saw wave 3, and Cogman was never seen at retail here

william-james88 wrote:Just so everyone is all on the same page, the MSRP for these wave 2 deluxes is $19.99. Target and Walmart lower them to whatever price they want. But there has been a price jump, some retailers just arent doing it on their end yet for these toys.

Transformers: Generations Power of the Primes Deluxe Class Terrorcon Rippersnapper

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 SRP /Available: Spring 2018)

Will, any idea on how that compares to Titan's Return's MSRP for deluxes? I though that was also $19.99 meaning Hasbro didn't hike the prices, at least for deluxes. I thought I remembered that possibly Voyagers and Leaders might have gone up $5 each like the TLK line did before them.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just so everyone is all on the same page, the MSRP for these wave 2 deluxes is $19.99. Target and Walmart lower them to whatever price they want. But there has been a price jump, some retailers just arent doing it on their end yet for these toys.

Transformers: Generations Power of the Primes Deluxe Class Terrorcon Rippersnapper

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 SRP /Available: Spring 2018)

Will, any idea on how that compares to Titan's Return's MSRP for deluxes? I though that was also $19.99 meaning Hasbro didn't hike the prices, at least for deluxes. I thought I remembered that possibly Voyagers and Leaders might have gone up $5 each like the TLK line did before them.

Frankly, I thought so too, but as it turns out, we were never given an MSRP for those.

Neither in their individual descriptions
https://www.hasbro.com/en-in/product/tr ... F17A01F8F9

Or in the material hasbro sent us
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ion/34036/

The first time we were given a pice lately was with the TLK deluxes which were indeed 19.99

william-james88 wrote:I am currently compiling a list of toys that seem to have been skipped in the US. While there were not a lot of them, the US did get wave five titans return, at target. But you guys have yet to get the cyclone us and heat seeker legion toys from robots in disguise.. Also can somebody confirm if the last night legion dragon storm and hound were found at retail, along with all spark squeaks and Megatron?

I got Megatron off eBay from a US seller who I assumed got it at retail

Dunno if it helps but Pop deluxe are going for 19.99 whereas TR deluxe were 23.99 at retail (Smyths) so there's a difference here

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:

partholon wrote:ah cock.

i didnt know it was the entire wave 2 that was going for 16.99.

Yep... This is why I'm skipping Blackwing. If Hasbro want's to continue hiking up the prices then I'm going to be less likely to collect every Generations figure I spot.

He's going to be the most likely to shelf warm in this wave anyway. So let me know when there's a 25% off clearance for him in May or June.

Um, isn't $15-$17 what Titans Return deluxes went for? How is Hasbro hiking up the prices? I'm pretty sure MSRP has remained the same for PotP as it was for TR. Stores may have increased their prices slightly over time, but that isn't Hasbro.

Also, Blackwing being single packed in the case isn't likely to shelfwarm that much, at least not in this wave. Possibly in wave 4 when he is re-packed, and out around the lead up to Christmas. This is when you'll want to look for a deal. And clearance usually doesn't happen until the end of the line, so again wave 4 around Christmas or just after like Titans Return did earlier this year. The 17 Blurrs and Scourges that were shelfwarming my local Walmart for 9 months didn't get clearanced until PotP was out in stores.

What are you Hasbro's marketing team?

In my neck of the woods TR's ranged from $14.99 to $15 and change at retail. Even the first wave of PotP's were 14.99 with 25% off back in November. But if you wanna pat Hasbro on the back for charging $17.00 for Dlx Dinobots that look like little baked potatoes with legs then go ahead.

That's NOT going to dismiss the scale and quality issue's accompanying the price hike (In My Area) that bothers me and many others...

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:TLK Deluxe Cogman and Generations TR Deluxe Wave 5 apparently have far more in common than previously thought...were any other TLK deluxes equally as scarce?

Most people never saw more than wave 1 and some very late wave 2. As far as I know, only like 3 people in the US ever saw wave 3, and Cogman was never seen at retail here

I actually found a Toys R Us express near me that had a bunch of wave 3 Deluxes (only place so far). However, there wasn't a single Bumblebee among them. This seems to be a common trend, because Bee was the first to sell out (and not get restocked) on Amazon. Was he shortpacked in the case?

YoungPrime wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:

partholon wrote:ah cock.

i didnt know it was the entire wave 2 that was going for 16.99.

Yep... This is why I'm skipping Blackwing. If Hasbro want's to continue hiking up the prices then I'm going to be less likely to collect every Generations figure I spot.

He's going to be the most likely to shelf warm in this wave anyway. So let me know when there's a 25% off clearance for him in May or June.

Um, isn't $15-$17 what Titans Return deluxes went for? How is Hasbro hiking up the prices? I'm pretty sure MSRP has remained the same for PotP as it was for TR. Stores may have increased their prices slightly over time, but that isn't Hasbro.

Also, Blackwing being single packed in the case isn't likely to shelfwarm that much, at least not in this wave. Possibly in wave 4 when he is re-packed, and out around the lead up to Christmas. This is when you'll want to look for a deal. And clearance usually doesn't happen until the end of the line, so again wave 4 around Christmas or just after like Titans Return did earlier this year. The 17 Blurrs and Scourges that were shelfwarming my local Walmart for 9 months didn't get clearanced until PotP was out in stores.

What are you Hasbro's marketing team?

In my neck of the woods TR's ranged from $14.99 to $15 and change at retail. Even the first wave of PotP's were 14.99 with 25% off back in November. But if you wanna pat Hasbro on the back for charging $17.00 for Dlx Dinobots that look like little baked potatoes with legs then go ahead.

That's NOT going to dismiss the scale and quality issue's accompanying the price hike (In My Area) that bothers me and many others...

Hasbro's marketing team? Where the hell is that even coming from. I'm just pointing out what you are blaming Hasbro for, is more likely the retailers pricing decisions.

So, lets see. You are trying to compare a sale price and discount from November, when toys are marked down for the Christmas rush toward a regular non-sale price in March, and insisting is must be Hasbro raising prices. Um, okay, whatever feeds your rage man.

In any case, if you are deal hunting, then November/December is your best bet, been that way for years. There will be some smaller deals right now leading up to Easter, but the best time for deals is November/December for a current line, or the start of a new line for clearance on the previous line.

Lore Keeper wrote: This seems to be a common trend, because Bee was the first to sell out (and not get restocked) on Amazon. Was he shortpacked in the case?

No, every character was 2 per box

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ails/60257

And holy ****, the cases are sold out at BBTS, that means people bought all these toys just to get BB and crosshairs (since the other is a repack and another is a straight redeco).

william-james88 wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote: This seems to be a common trend, because Bee was the first to sell out (and not get restocked) on Amazon. Was he shortpacked in the case?

No, every character was 2 per box

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ails/60257

And holy ****, the cases are sold out at BBTS, that means people bought all these toys just to get BB and crosshairs (since the other is a repack and another is a straight redeco).

They probably just broke the cases open, because the set of 4 is still for sale

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ails/60261

Anybody else getting the Wave 2 POTP deluxes from Amazon and having them shipped in padded mailers? Rippersanpper had a frayed card but was otherwiser ok. Moonracer was 100% ok.

I only ordered the 2 dinobots and it came in a box. No issues.

nycPrime wrote:I only ordered the 2 dinobots and it came in a box. No issues.

Did you order them at the same time? I ordered my two figures separately.

Yep same order. I don't think there are smaller boxes so if I only ordered 1, it probably would've came in the padded yellow envelope.

I've never ordered any item from Amazon proper that came in an envelope. Even a single dvd, always came in a small box with padding. If it came as you stated it would have been from a 3rd party seller

o.supreme wrote:I've never ordered any item from Amazon proper that came in an envelope. Even a single dvd, always came in a small box with padding. If it came as you stated it would have been from a 3rd party seller

I have had several items from amazon come to me in a yellow padded envelope. Especially books.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I've never ordered any item from Amazon proper that came in an envelope. Even a single dvd, always came in a small box with padding. If it came as you stated it would have been from a 3rd party seller

I have had several items from amazon come to me in a yellow padded envelope. Especially books.

Seconded.